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thuddles 01-10-2013 02:12 PM

Raptor Liner
 
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I'm new, and this is my first real post so comment, critique, I don't care!. I did my research and decided to go with the Raptor Bedliner. I bought it online i think it came out to 120 with shipping, thats the gun, 4 bottles of goop and one can of hardener. The instructions said that it would cover about 125 square feet of metal and I was able to get a good coverage out of just 2 bottles!
As you read on every forum talking about bed liners prep prep prep. I occasionally sanded everyday for about a week first with an electric drill and wire wheel, then i sanded with paper. When I was finally ready to spray it on, I rented a good compressor from homedepot, like 50 bucks for 2 days but it was worth it because the compressor i had would not put out a good running PSI. Although the fumes were harsh, there wasn't alot of mist, like when spraying from a can. Its dry to the touch in just about an hour and cures in 3 days, although you might wanna leave the top off for a while. I left the top off for 2 weeks after, and when i put my top back on, it still smelled like wet paint. the texture is much more gritty than i had thought too. its not rubbery what so ever and things tend to slide around a little bit. But i must say this crap is tough as nails!!!
A few things i would recommend. 1. Take off the seat belts, it ends up looking alot nicer, but be careful before you take them off. Put a piece of tape on the belt itself to prevent the belt from retracting. If it does retract to far you will be spending 30 min pulling at the belt just to get it an inch or two out!! 2. My floor on my passenger side was rather rusty, I used rustoleum "hammered" textured paint. Since i had everything off, i coated my e-brake and all of the metal around my shifters with it too, turned out really nice. 3 if your looking to cover up holes, you need to play with the goop while it is still maleable. I had/have holes in my rear floor board because of an amp, even though they were small it didn't cover it up. I moved it around with my finger and got it to cover up, i resprayed it and you can't even tell now. but on the other side there is still holes because i didn't move it around with my finger, it sprays out very even.
Over all, i'm really happy i did this, i don't have to wory about water sand or whatever else i treck in to my jeep. and the UV resistance seems to be holding up nicely. with the other 2 bottles i think i'm going to cover my top and my fender flares.

DrewG 01-10-2013 03:22 PM

Nice! Looks good - that's one thing I'll probably be doing once it gets warmer, lining the interior.

viperx6x9x 01-11-2013 08:41 AM

Same here, I was looking into the herculiner stuff, but this looks like like it turns out a better result.

Fortunately there is a small army of jeepers at work that will probably help out. Maybe we can do a group buy for the kit with the gun, and just buy individual bottles of the goop as we need them and just line all the jeeps.

krisbman 01-11-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by viperx6x9x
Same here, I was looking into the herculiner stuff, but this looks like like it turns out a better result.

Fortunately there is a small army of jeepers at work that will probably help out. Maybe we can do a group buy for the kit with the gun, and just buy individual bottles of the goop as we need them and just line all the jeeps.

You guys know you can get a " tintable" version and add color?

viperx6x9x 01-11-2013 08:51 AM

I've seen that, going for the all black look on my jeep, but some of the other guys might want color.

krisbman 01-11-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by viperx6x9x
I've seen that, going for the all black look on my jeep, but some of the other guys might want color.

Air pressure plays a big role in its appearance also

viperx6x9x 01-11-2013 09:09 AM

I suppose the included spray gun has the right nozzle on it or would you guys suggest anything different for a better spray pattern.

krisbman 01-11-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by viperx6x9x
I suppose the included spray gun has the right nozzle on it or would you guys suggest anything different for a better spray pattern.

Yes. Just speed and distance. We hook up straight airline pressure about 90 psi and spray at about 18 inches

viperx6x9x 01-11-2013 09:33 AM

Cool, I think I might give it a try. Right now I am scared I will mess it up and make it look like a huge mess, so it is down to this stuff or just paying somebody (I dread this option) to Line-X it or something.

krisbman 01-11-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by viperx6x9x
Cool, I think I might give it a try. Right now I am scared I will mess it up and make it look like a huge mess, so it is down to this stuff or just paying somebody (I dread this option) to Line-X it or something.

Two completely different animals bro. Youll be fine

NCJeepin 01-11-2013 11:22 AM

Looks great, I'll be doing this in the spring.

NC Bear 01-11-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NCJeepin (Post 3214358)
Looks great, I'll be doing this in the spring.


yep, me and you both...

thuddles 01-11-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by viperx6x9x (Post 3213930)
Cool, I think I might give it a try. Right now I am scared I will mess it up and make it look like a huge mess, so it is down to this stuff or just paying somebody (I dread this option) to Line-X it or something.

I'm no specialist, and this is my daily driver, i'm young and my dad thought it was gonna turn out like crap too but he was beyond impressed with the results. The gun that came with the kit seems kinda cheap, but there is no adjustment on it. you use it how it comes in the box its really simple. since I only used two of the bottles, I filled a bottle up with water while hooked up to the compressor and blew it all out so i'm good to use it for the next time....

Start under your front seats, work with angles and distances you'll find it covers rather easy! DIY all the way!


also i was thinking about doing my rims, will it throw off my balance?

eagle223 01-11-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thuddles

I'm no specialist, and this is my daily driver, i'm young and my dad thought it was gonna turn out like crap too but he was beyond impressed with the results. The gun that came with the kit seems kinda cheap, but there is no adjustment on it. you use it how it comes in the box its really simple. since I only used two of the bottles, I filled a bottle up with water while hooked up to the compressor and blew it all out so i'm good to use it for the next time....

Start under your front seats, work with angles and distances you'll find it covers rather easy! DIY all the way!

also i was thinking about doing my rims, will it throw off my balance?

If you are going to spray the rims, I would go get the tires rebalanced afterwards. America's tire offers free rotations and balancing when you buy tires through them, some other shops might offer the same services

Mbetts1332 01-11-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thuddles (Post 3210202)
I'm new, and this is my first real post so comment, critique, I don't care!. I did my research and decided to go with the Raptor Bedliner. I bought it online i think it came out to 120 with shipping, thats the gun, 4 bottles of goop and one can of hardener. The instructions said that it would cover about 125 square feet of metal and I was able to get a good coverage out of just 2 bottles!
As you read on every forum talking about bed liners prep prep prep. I occasionally sanded everyday for about a week first with an electric drill and wire wheel, then i sanded with paper. When I was finally ready to spray it on, I rented a good compressor from homedepot, like 50 bucks for 2 days but it was worth it because the compressor i had would not put out a good running PSI. Although the fumes were harsh, there wasn't alot of mist, like when spraying from a can. Its dry to the touch in just about an hour and cures in 3 days, although you might wanna leave the top off for a while. I left the top off for 2 weeks after, and when i put my top back on, it still smelled like wet paint. the texture is much more gritty than i had thought too. its not rubbery what so ever and things tend to slide around a little bit. But i must say this crap is tough as nails!!!
A few things i would recommend. 1. Take off the seat belts, it ends up looking alot nicer, but be careful before you take them off. Put a piece of tape on the belt itself to prevent the belt from retracting. If it does retract to far you will be spending 30 min pulling at the belt just to get it an inch or two out!! 2. My floor on my passenger side was rather rusty, I used rustoleum "hammered" textured paint. Since i had everything off, i coated my e-brake and all of the metal around my shifters with it too, turned out really nice. 3 if your looking to cover up holes, you need to play with the goop while it is still maleable. I had/have holes in my rear floor board because of an amp, even though they were small it didn't cover it up. I moved it around with my finger and got it to cover up, i resprayed it and you can't even tell now. but on the other side there is still holes because i didn't move it around with my finger, it sprays out very even.
Over all, i'm really happy i did this, i don't have to wory about water sand or whatever else i treck in to my jeep. and the UV resistance seems to be holding up nicely. with the other 2 bottles i think i'm going to cover my top and my fender flares.

looks great i rhino lined mine and it didnt look that good haha

viperx6x9x 01-11-2013 05:41 PM

Yeah mine is a daily driver too so it needs to be something I can spray on a friday afternoon, and be cured enough to put the driver seat back in sunday night so I can drive it monday morning. This and the herculiner roll on stuff is the only DIY kits I have found so far.

thuddles 01-11-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by viperx6x9x (Post 3215910)
Yeah mine is a daily driver too so it needs to be something I can spray on a friday afternoon, and be cured enough to put the driver seat back in sunday night so I can drive it monday morning. This and the herculiner roll on stuff is the only DIY kits I have found so far.

I researched a lot about many different kinds of liners before choosing this one. If you want it to look nice and even, then SPRAY it on!(whatever you choose) Roll on liners will always be more of pain because you have to worry about mixing the right amount without letting it get too tacky, and its way more messy. With this kit, you fill, shake it up, screw it on and your good to go. It will be cured enough if you have it sprayed on friday, the key is to make sure you sand good, and wipe down with some paint thinner to make sure you have all the contaminants off your surface!!

rykemc 01-11-2013 05:58 PM

I have used this product on two jeeps so far. My dads scrambler that we did a year ago and now mine. Really sold on this product and the ease of use is incredible. I must say though, wear a mask or some kind of breathing filter. It is some nasty crap and will get you high as a kite with a very bad hangover the next day. Or maybe that was the beer we were drinking while doing it :)

viperx6x9x 01-11-2013 06:09 PM

too bad they didn't let us keep those gas masks we had to tote around for 3 weeks for a wear test. That would be handy for this. lol.

I'll find something. at the very least one of those surgeon masks and do it outdoors. I don't want to go buy some fancy mask i will only use once.

And there will likely be many beers as well, but mostly in the prep process throughout the week.

viperx6x9x 05-15-2013 03:10 PM

When you guys bedline your tubs what do you do about those big oval shaped plugs?

See OP's pic, just behind where the lug wrench mounts. There are a bunch of them in there, i just point those 2 out for reference so you know what I am talking about.

Leave em in or take em out? those metal clips holding them in look like they would break easy and not reinstall snugly.

also there are a bunch of bolts that appear to connect to something underneath the floor. I am worried if I pull them now I may be disconnecting something important and I have to drive this thing the rest of the week before I can paint on saturday.

And last question. I am hoping to raptor line some rocker panel stripes on the outside as well. like below the doors and between the fender flares. Do you think the kit will have enough product to do the inside as well as that?

I am thinking about lining straight over the door sills and continuing on with the rocker panels. The dogs scratch up the door sills anyway when they jump in, so I figure a little protection there couldn't hurt anything.

Jaxon1023 05-15-2013 05:00 PM

You can get jk rubber plugs to go in those holes. That's what I did for mine after I monstalined it. They fit perfect

viperx6x9x 05-15-2013 08:26 PM

So definitely pop em out? or will it matter if I just spray over them?

Jaxon1023 05-15-2013 08:32 PM

It's really up to you. I use them to drain water out. Popped them out and got the plugs.

michiganhunter 05-15-2013 09:13 PM

I am in the middle of sanding my tj right now, it's a Lil more elbow grease than unthought it would be its nit my everyday driver so I go out and sand a Lil and quit, lol. I'm kinda nervous to do it to, wondering how it is going to turn out! I removed the entire interior right down to the wiring harness in the back. I do have a a ? I ya don't mind answering it for me..... When I go to spray the liner on and I do the 1st coat from back to front how long do you wait till you put another coat on?? Also what do you do with the gun that you sprayed it on with, I mean did you just lay it down and wait or did you clean it till you were ready to spray it again??

viperx6x9x 05-15-2013 11:26 PM

What I have done in the past with paint guns is run a little paint thinner through the gun after you use it to clear out any paint so it won't clog up.

Hopefully you use up a whole bottle of the raptor stuff so you can re use the bottle for this. But pour some paint thinner in the empty bottle, shake it up and get it clear of any material and dump it out. Once it's clean just pour some more thinner in it and screw the bottle back on the gun and spray for a little while on a piece of plywood or something till it looks clean. Should be able to re use the gun with no problems.

I just got mine today and the gun looks like it was meant to be disposable anyway, but this should at least get you through the painting process if you have to wait a while between coats.

I'm just wondering if I will have to get an attachment to hook up the air hose. This thing is threaded and every air hose i've ever used has one of those pop on pull collar style connectors. Should be fun.

viperx6x9x 05-16-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3213861)
Yes. Just speed and distance. We hook up straight airline pressure about 90 psi and spray at about 18 inches

Just out of curiosity, you say 90. Golden Sahara said 70 in his thread. Raptor instructions say 40-70.

what are the pros/cons of going with lower PSI vs. higher PSI?

I am borrowing a buddy's compressor hopefully, and I don't know if i will be able to get a steady 90psi out of that thing.

also this stuff seems like it's gonna be a lot thicker and gooier than normal paint so that could be a factor. I just wanna make sure i'm doing it right the first time so this doesn't end up looking like crap.

hagler123 05-17-2013 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by michiganhunter (Post 3759848)
I am in the middle of sanding my tj right now, it's a Lil more elbow grease than unthought it would be its nit my everyday driver so I go out and sand a Lil and quit, lol. I'm kinda nervous to do it to, wondering how it is going to turn out! I removed the entire interior right down to the wiring harness in the back. I do have a a ? I ya don't mind answering it for me..... When I go to spray the liner on and I do the 1st coat from back to front how long do you wait till you put another coat on?? Also what do you do with the gun that you sprayed it on with, I mean did you just lay it down and wait or did you clean it till you were ready to spray it again??

Quote:

Originally Posted by viperx6x9x (Post 3763953)

Just out of curiosity, you say 90. Golden Sahara said 70 in his thread. Raptor instructions say 40-70.

what are the pros/cons of going with lower PSI vs. higher PSI?

I am borrowing a buddy's compressor hopefully, and I don't know if i will be able to get a steady 90psi out of that thing.

also this stuff seems like it's gonna be a lot thicker and gooier than normal paint so that could be a factor. I just wanna make sure i'm doing it right the first time so this doesn't end up looking like crap.

Sorry to butt in, but I'm gonna be doing the raptor Liner spray in my 2001 tj sport in two weeks once I get out of school for the summer and I want you guys to post some pics when your finished! It would be appreciated!

viperx6x9x 05-17-2013 11:12 AM

no problem, probably gona be a few weeks though. Prep time is taking longer than I expected and I don't have access to that compressor yet either.

viperx6x9x 05-29-2013 09:48 AM

Does anybody know if the windshield is still supported if you pull the roll cage out? It looks like the front tubes form part of the support structure to me.

I need to pull it so I can continue with prep, but I still need to drive it to work a few more days before I can spray. Hopefully friday. So just wanted to know if it's still safe to drive, or should I just wait till friday to pull the cage.

viperx6x9x 05-29-2013 02:20 PM

Nevermind. Just remembered the seatbelts are attached to the cage. Guess I won't be taking that out till this weekend after all.


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