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elclipo 01-11-2013 07:13 PM

Bad transmission?
 
So today I stopped at a stop light and the jeep wouldbt go into neutral. I mean the shifter was in neutral but when I let go of the clutch it engaged as if it was in gear. I fought it for a bit and got it going. Not a quarter mile later it wouldn't go into gear. I stopped and got out to see if I could see/hear something and noticed some knocking coming from underneath, the transmission I think.
Let it sit off for a bit, started it up and drove home. Feels rough getting into first and second but it feels fine from there. It drove smooth yesterday and this morning.

I'm afraid the tranny is shot. Could it be low fluid? Synchros? How can I check?

Full Spool 01-11-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by elclipo (Post 3216044)
Could it be low fluid? Synchros? How can I check?

Pull the drain plug and check the magnet for needle bearing or other pieces.

elclipo 01-11-2013 09:35 PM

I might be taking it to a shop tomorrow to be on the safe side. That is if I can find one open tomorrow. If not it will have to be Monday.

elclipo 01-12-2013 08:22 AM

At the shop now. Free diagnostics so might as well. They'll check the whole drivetrain and let me know what's up.

It drove great this morning, or as good as it has been driving since I test drove it so I'm hoping that's a good sign.

elclipo 01-12-2013 10:22 AM

2nd gear is gone, or damn near. The rest seem fine. They have to take it off to assess what needs replacing and to quote me a final price.

$800 in total labor plus parts. 12mos./12k mile warranty.

A rebuilt unit from the dealer is $3300 installed.

Is there anything I should make sure they replace since the thing is open anyways?

Full Spool 01-12-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elclipo (Post 3218797)
2nd gear is gone, $800 in total labor plus parts, anything I should make sure they replace since the thing is open anyways?

Get that Quote in writing. I'll bet they won't agree to that.
Should be $500+ to pull and install. Then it's a rated 4 hour job. Second gear is supposedly hard to find, But it's $100. I would request all bearings be replace if they are going to open it up. And then get the syncros done too. Might as well get a new clutch While it's out.

If it's the bearing that sits inside second gear that ruined second gear. It probably ate up the main shaft.

Looks more like $2000+.

I could be wrong.... But, I wasn't last summer when the exact same thing happened to me. I saved some coin by removing the trans myself. Still set me back $1,300.

Notoriously_rob 01-12-2013 05:28 PM

Ax-15 is around $1300

6rings 01-12-2013 08:39 PM

Last Jan same thing... 1st, 2nd and both synchronizers....$2300 bucks at a dealer

elclipo 01-13-2013 10:03 AM

I asked about 100 times. The labor is the same regardless. What changes is the parts. They will open it ans evaluate it and let me know what it needs. He said they would call me when it was taken apart for nw to look at it. I will take pictures for you guys and to have as reference for the future.

If second gear is $100, does anyone know roughly how much the synchros and/or bearings are?

elclipo 01-18-2013 06:31 AM

Well 4 days and $3k later and I have a new clutch, resurfaced flywheel, and a remanufactured transmission.

There goes my budget to do anything else.

Full Spool 01-18-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elclipo (Post 3243682)
Well 4 days and $3k later and I have a new clutch, resurfaced flywheel, and a remanufactured transmission.

Told ya!!!

Hope they at least gave you your old trans back.

elclipo 01-18-2013 11:00 PM

Labor was still the same. The rest was parts. The "new" trans was ~$1900 with a core so I didn't get the broke one back. Then there's the clutch and flywheel, etc. Definitely more money than I would have wanted to spend, but the problem grew like cancer and once they opened the trans I had very little choice.

Will be prepared for next time.

Full Spool 01-19-2013 01:12 AM

Yeah, when that stuff hits the wallet it make it so you don't wheel as hard. Always wondering.... what's next.

elclipo 01-19-2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Full Spool (Post 3248322)
Yeah, when that stuff hits the wallet it make it so you don't wheel as hard. Always wondering.... what's next.

Exactly. I was supposed to go to Hard Rock today. Instead I'm going fishing. I don't need something else to break this early in the game.


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