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orange05tj 09-04-2008 06:34 PM

oddball request
 
Im looking for any ideas of what anyone has done to the shifter after a lift. I have the skid dropped and my shifter hits the back of the console. I chopped it all to hell and now it gets hot like Texas. After I mutilated the plastic thing around the shifter, trimmed the console, my friend said, " why didnt you just heat and bend the shifter?" why? because Im dumb. thats why. I cant be the only person with a tcase drop that has this problem. Btw, its a 3" FT lift.

4Jeepn 09-04-2008 08:01 PM

Pic's so we can see how chopped to hell it is.

Can you put some kind of heat shield around the area?

orange05tj 09-04-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 261450)
Pic's so we can see how chopped to hell it is.

Can you put some kind of heat shield around the area?

Ill get some pics tomorrow, just got it back from the shop tonight. Im trying to find a heat sheild. I was thinking of that insulation that some cars have under the carpets. My Mustang had it but I gutted it and then melted my shoe to the floor.

Bebout 09-04-2008 08:26 PM

I just took the console apart and trimmed the black plastic ring around the shift boot with a dremel and that's all that was needed.

orange05tj 09-05-2008 01:25 PM

heres the mess I was talking about

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture027.jpg

Joe Dirt 09-05-2008 01:46 PM

What a great excuse to get a SYE and shaft so you can raise the pan back up!:punk:

rrich 09-05-2008 01:54 PM

Since the shifter mount is now lower down the slot that the lever needs is longer. Heating and bending the lever helps clear it in the rear, but it'll hit in the front.

You'll have to redesign the entire console around the shifter, use a big boot, or raise the T-case back up and go to a CV shaft like someone said.

orange05tj 09-05-2008 02:07 PM

I dont have the funds for sye at this time. I just think its odd that no one else seems to have had this problem. I cant be the only Jeep with a lift and tcase drop. It still hits the console so I had to trim that too. When I put it in reverse, it picks the whole console up. I dont care about the cutting, I just cant take the heat from it. My foot feels like I was standing in a pond all day when I get home.

sgnellett 09-05-2008 02:36 PM

Nope, you aren't alone, you need the shifter relocation kit, I posted a thread about it a week or 2 ago, there are a few brands out there, most people seemed to think it was a pretty simple mod..

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/skyj...ket-20696.html

orange05tj 09-05-2008 02:44 PM

thanks for the info. Mine tcase doesnt bind, just the shifter hit. Im trying to find that insulation that some cars had under the hood or under the carpet. Thatll keep the heat out (and the cold in the winter.)

rrich 09-05-2008 03:05 PM

I think the relocation kit moves the lever's pivot point higher, shortening the slot needed.

Pep Boys, Car Quest, NAPA etc. has the foil type - foil on both sides sandwiching insulation. I think I've even seen it at Home Depot and the like.

Cut a sheet metal shield that can screw to the floor underneath (a tin can will work,) then a couple of loose layers of the insulation tight around the lever should do it.

Triple88a 09-06-2008 01:07 AM

Get a short shifter, it will solve your problems. :flipoff:

(i got a B&M Short Shifter and i'm pleased)

mr4x4 09-06-2008 02:02 AM

my dad had the same problem
after a little heat and a bend of the shifter it shifts like it did before the lift

CJ2WRANGLER 09-06-2008 03:16 AM

I took all of the bolts losse from my console ( I think there was one in the cupholder, 2 in the console and one on the side) and slid it back about an inch and reattached it. I also moved the inner shifter boot back about an inch.

Triple88a 09-06-2008 07:45 PM

here is what to expect down there

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...DSCF0004-3.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...DSCF0003-3.jpg

3rd gear with my short shifter
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...r/DSCF0015.jpg

nicolas-eric 09-06-2008 08:12 PM

@orange05TJ:

get rid of the TC drop and install a 1" MML instead (if you donīt have a BL install it with a 1.25" BL) and your problem is gone.
i hate the ugly looking deep hanging TC plates with a TC drop.
thatīs how i would do it.

orange05tj 09-06-2008 08:14 PM

I have the mml. I needed the drop, tried it without, felt like the drive shaft was gonna fall out. Even with the 1" drop, I still have min. vibes.

orange05tj 09-06-2008 08:15 PM

Trip, yours looks alot different then mine, any reason?

nicolas-eric 09-06-2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange05tj (Post 262039)
I have the mml. I needed the drop, tried it without, felt like the drive shaft was gonna fall out. Even with the 1" drop, I still have min. vibes.

then iīm a very lucky guy.
iīve 2.5" OME springs with 2" spacers on top and i only have a MML and no TC drop and there are only min. vibes.

orange05tj 09-06-2008 08:18 PM

weird, I had vibes even with the 2" BB, then I installed the 1.25 and mml, and they were gone. When I installed the new lift, I couldnt hold the shifter when I took off in 1st. thought it was gonna break my arm.

nicolas-eric 09-06-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange05tj (Post 262044)
weird, I had vibes even with the 2" BB, then I installed the 1.25 and mml, and they were gone.

thatīs really weird.
i had vibes with the 2" BB and installed a 1/3" TC drop with some washers. after installing the 2.5" OME lift with 1" spacers on top there were no new vibes.
3 weeks ago i installed the 1" MML and took out the washers. it felt better then with the TC drop. i still had some 2" spacers from the old BB and installed them in the rear. and surprise! no new vibes.
for me thatīs unbelievable.. but itīs true..

but i still have the stock CAs. a buddy told me that there would be more vibes with longer CAs.

nicolas-eric 09-06-2008 08:26 PM

with all bigger BL kits for manuall trannys there comes an extension for the shifter. couldnīt you cut the shifter and extend it a bit?

orange05tj 09-06-2008 08:29 PM

theres probably a way, but I think Im gonna take the half ass road and throw some heat insulation over the whole. Still shifts fine, just keeps my coffee hot and makes it a thrill wondering if my lighter will get hot enough to explode.

jeeperx2 09-06-2008 09:23 PM

go to your local hardware store and in the plumbing section they will have a roll of peel and stick insulaton simular to a dynamat type of material(thats the real stuff they put under the carpet)

Triple88a 09-07-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange05tj (Post 262040)
Trip, yours looks alot different then mine, any reason?

what do you mean? the shifter or what? The last pic with the shinny shifter rod is the B&M short shifter. Otherwise i have no idea..

You can also go to autozone and get a rubber boot (mounts to the tub underneath the console) so it can block the heat.

for here
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...DSCF0003-3.jpg


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