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reissigree 01-16-2013 01:07 PM

SYE and control arm questions
 
I'm about to purchase a SYE kit, custom driveshaft, upper control arms, and a rear track bar. The track bar is a rubicon express, here are the control arms, now for the sye and shaft. Do you guys have a particular kit you would recommend that's cheaper than tom woods? If not, I'll go Tom woods, just looking for more options. Also, am I missing anything? Should this correct my vibes? I have a '97 TJ with 6 inches in the front and 4 in rear.

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Imped 01-16-2013 01:27 PM

Cheaper? No. Better? Yes. JB Conversions.

DevilDogDoc 01-16-2013 01:48 PM

I would call Savvy and see what kind of deal Gerald can give you. Also a CV bracket for that rear trackbar.

reissigree 01-16-2013 03:39 PM

Okay so I'll add that to the list. Anything else you guys can think of? And how long does it take to have a custom shaft made? I need it in a week and a half

Dextreme 01-16-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by reissigree (Post 3236996)
Okay so I'll add that to the list. Anything else you guys can think of? And how long does it take to have a custom shaft made? I need it in a week and a half

If you are have the shaft made locally, call your driveline shop and see what their turn around time is. Could be same day or it could be a week if they are swamped (or need to order parts).

IslandTJ 01-16-2013 03:57 PM

I run a Tatton's shaft and a TeraFlex SYE (basically an Advance Adapters clone). Installation was easy, no leaks, great value and great product.

New SYE Kit YJ TJ XJ Wrangler Jeep CV 231J Driveshaft | eBay

reissigree 01-16-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IslandTJ (Post 3237054)
I run a Tatton's shaft and a TeraFlex SYE (basically an Advance Adapters clone). Installation was easy, no leaks, great value and great product.

New SYE Kit YJ TJ XJ Wrangler Jeep CV 231J Driveshaft | eBay

Thanks I appreciate that! Anything else you can see that I may need? I'm trying to knock everything out at once... lol

IslandTJ 01-16-2013 10:34 PM

You most likely will need a CV type track bar relocation bracket.

Rubicon Express Part r/ere1602 - Track Bar Bracket Rear TJ W/Cv Driveshaft 3.0"-5.5"

Due to the height of your lift you may also need rear adjustable CA's to center your wheel within the wheel well.

The above, will all be a result of your pinion angle rotation, in effort to bring your drive line into spec.

reissigree 01-16-2013 11:21 PM

Yep, I'm buying the rear upper control arms in order to adjust the pinion angle. My buddy told me that I wouldn't need the relocation bracket because I'm getting and adjustable track bar?

Imped 01-17-2013 07:06 AM

An adjustable track bar laterally positions the axle. That doesn't take care of the new offset between the axle and frame mounts. Having an adjustable end certainly helps but you'll still want that bracket.

rjacobs 01-17-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Imped (Post 3236522)
Cheaper? No. Better? Yes. JB Conversions.

If I am no mistaken the JB conversions SSSYE is actually an option from Tom Woods. I dont think they mention specifically what brand it is though. Unless somebody else now is making a SSSYE.

Imped 01-17-2013 08:24 AM

I believe a couple people make SS housings. JB Conversions is the only company that makes theirs stand apart.

IslandTJ 01-17-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Imped (Post 3239757)
I believe a couple people make SS housings. JB Conversions is the only company that makes theirs stand apart.

x2, they (JB) are simply quality.

rjacobs 01-17-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rjacobs (Post 3239709)
If I am no mistaken the JB conversions SSSYE is actually an option from Tom Woods. I dont think they mention specifically what brand it is though. Unless somebody else now is making a SSSYE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imped (Post 3239757)
I believe a couple people make SS housings. JB Conversions is the only company that makes theirs stand apart.

I just emailed Tom Woods and he said they sell the Tera Extreme Short SYE as their Super Short SYE option so its not JB. I know I read somewhere that they were selling the JB, but maybe that was before Tera came out with theirs. I have an email back to him asking his opinion of the Tera vs. the JB. I am guessing he is obviously going to say he likes the Tera better since that is what he sells, but maybe he will go more in depth.

hosejockey61 01-17-2013 11:08 AM

Is a SS SYE even needed or can a regular SYE be used?

rjacobs 01-17-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hosejockey61 (Post 3240308)
Is a SS SYE even needed or can a regular SYE be used?

it depends on what your final setup is going to be.

Somebody correct me if I have my reasons wrong or if I miss something:
-you can run a longer drive shaft which will allow for more articulation
-allows for lower drive shaft/pinion angle
-due to its shorter nature allows you to put a larger diff, like a RJD60 or HP44, in without having a really short drive shaft.
-converts from gear drive speedo to electronic which makes speedo changes easier down the line due to gear or tire changes.
-The JB conversion is stronger than than the other regular SYE conversions as well I believe, but that isnt really an SSSYE vs. SYE advantage, just how JB builds theirs.

And probably a couple more.

Imped 01-17-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hosejockey61 (Post 3240308)
Is a SS SYE even needed or can a regular SYE be used?

Needed? No. But unless you already have a standard housing, get the SS housing. There are only advantages, especially with the TJ's already-short rear drive shaft.

doclouie 01-19-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rjacobs (Post 3240207)
I just emailed Tom Woods and he said they sell the Tera Extreme Short SYE as their Super Short SYE option so its not JB. I know I read somewhere that they were selling the JB, but maybe that was before Tera came out with theirs. I have an email back to him asking his opinion of the Tera vs. the JB. I am guessing he is obviously going to say he likes the Tera better since that is what he sells, but maybe he will go more in depth.

I have asked this exact question when I was a Tom's shop and he told me he does not have a preference over either brand as they both work well. He sells both JB and Teraflex, but JB has problems getting him the parts in a reasonable time frame. Sometimes JB shafts are back ordered for weeks and sometimes months.

rjacobs 01-19-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by doclouie (Post 3249723)
I have asked this exact question when I was a Tom's shop and he told me he does not have a preference over either brand as they both work well. He sells both JB and Teraflex, but JB has problems getting him the parts in a reasonable time frame. Sometimes JB shafts are back ordered for weeks and sometimes months.

He said he honestly thinks the JB is a better unit, but he said probably not enough that 99% of people would notice. He said the reason they dont carry them is because of what you said and that JB doesnt give any kind of dealer discounts so there is no way for him to make any money. At least he was honest and ill take that any day.


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