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HotRodWillys 01-19-2013 07:31 PM

Midland 75-822
 
Who's got one and how you like it?

Jeepnolan 01-19-2013 10:53 PM

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From personal knowledge of CB radios, stick with an actual base unit and not an all in one handheld unit. I wanted a unit with SSB but didn't think I could fit one of that size in my TJ. That was until I made my own overhead mount and tied that to the roll bar. Came out great!

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Kssting 01-19-2013 11:04 PM

I have one and it does the job. Having the option of being able to take it with me if I needed to walk away from the jeep was a big reason I chose it. In the jeep I have a typical installation with a quick connect under the dash and a 4' Firestick on the tailgate.

HotRodWillys 01-20-2013 05:59 AM

I have a JK and ride with the top and doors off quite a bit even to work everyday. There's not much room to mount a full size CB other than in the console. That was why I was leaning toward the 75-822--and it has weather stations.

If all CB's can only produce 4 watts, what's the advantages of using a traditional base unit?

Jeepnolan 01-20-2013 07:48 AM

A lot of it really depends on what you want it for. If you get a SSB capable radio, it pushes 20w in the SSB range. My preference has always been using SSB because it's pretty cool to be able to skip your signal across the US with a 4' antenna and stock radio. I've done it plenty of times. I have a CB in both my Jeep here and in the one in Florida and have never had an issue while keeping the top down or doors off.

Plastic Bertrand 01-20-2013 08:39 AM

Hi,

I don't see any disadvantage in using a handheld CB unit. Although the mounting solution for a fixed unit from JeepNolan looks great.

I own the European version called Midland Alan 42. Nealy identical but with different frequency range. I am fully satisfied. Easy to handle, good and clear sound.

Don't know the Cobra model being also very popular in the US. But I would recommend you to compare the Midland and the Cobra. Make your own decision !

Cheers
Guido

BlueRidgeYJ 01-20-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HotRodWillys
If all CB's can only produce 4 watts, what's the advantages of using a traditional base unit?

Additional features. A good breakdown of radios and features can be found here http://www.wranglerforum.com/f40/bas...de-184216.html

Good call on the weather stations, I like 7 at least.

The most limiting factor of super compacts or handhelds is the duckie antenna. It you wire it to an external antenna as someone mentioned they had, it is just about as good as a full size, but doesn't have all the neato internals that can help ya out. On a trail you will never miss em, it should suffice just fine.

ALL 11M (CB) communication cannot exceed 4w, so most cb radios PEP at about 3.5w. SSB doesn't send more power. In basic explination, radiowaves carry 3 parts - a carrier wave and two sidebands. The carrier takes 50% of broadcast power and the sides split the rest. In SSB operation, the carrier wave and one of the side band waves (lower or upper) is dropped, leaving only 1 "SingleSideBand" to be transmitted. The other guy must have his radio set to do the same, else you won't have good comms.

It is basically using a narrow bandwidth for CB. This allows all the TX power to be focused on the SSB, pushing what would go at ~25% broadcast power to 100%, allowing 4x stronger signal strength which greatly increases distance. If everyone used it, twice as many "channels" would appear on CB, but if a reg CB is operating on say 19, he is occupying 19 Lower, Upper, and Carrier - so you can't talk simultaniously on 19 in SSB.

If ya want cross country all the time spend the 15$ and get your Ham ticket. If ya got a 20w SSB "CB", it is an imported 10M and not legal for use in the US. Just sayin ;)

Cheers

HotRodWillys 01-20-2013 05:33 PM

I think I am still leaning toward the 75-822. I was going to install its own 12V socket (powered straight from the battery) in the my Rugged Ridge A-pillar switch pod I bought but haven't installed yet. I was going to install the antenna cord through there as well. As far as antenna's go, I was thinking a firestick 3' or 4'.

Kssting 01-20-2013 06:32 PM

That sounds like a good plan. Make sure you get an adjustable Firestick so you can fine tune it. I had a friend help tune mine with his SWR meter and it helped.

sparky 01-21-2013 10:53 AM

The all in one's are convient and nice from a security point. They work much better with an external antenna. You will appreciate an external speaker, much better volume.

kensjeep 01-23-2013 10:39 AM

I also have the midland portable it works fine even with the stock antenna.I only use it for trail rides so it works fine couple hundred yards apart no problem.

HotRodWillys 01-23-2013 09:06 PM

I ordered the 75-822 yesterday with a 4' firestick antenna with tunable tip. It is scheduled to ship on Friday! Maybe if I get done with my chores this weekend, I can install it.

Thanks for the advice everybody.

Arsonman 01-26-2013 07:31 PM

Where did you order from HRW?

HotRodWillys 01-26-2013 09:54 PM

Ordered everything from amazon.com. Got everything shipped by Friday. Going to start installing tomorrow.

03WranglerRubicon 01-27-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeYJ (Post 3252551)
Additional features. A good breakdown of radios and features can be found here http://www.wranglerforum.com/f40/bas...de-184216.html

Good call on the weather stations, I like 7 at least.

The most limiting factor of super compacts or handhelds is the duckie antenna. It you wire it to an external antenna as someone mentioned they had, it is just about as good as a full size, but doesn't have all the neato internals that can help ya out. On a trail you will never miss em, it should suffice just fine.

ALL 11M (CB) communication cannot exceed 4w, so most cb radios PEP at about 3.5w. SSB doesn't send more power. In basic explination, radiowaves carry 3 parts - a carrier wave and two sidebands. The carrier takes 50% of broadcast power and the sides split the rest. In SSB operation, the carrier wave and one of the side band waves (lower or upper) is dropped, leaving only 1 "SingleSideBand" to be transmitted. The other guy must have his radio set to do the same, else you won't have good comms.

It is basically using a narrow bandwidth for CB. This allows all the TX power to be focused on the SSB, pushing what would go at ~25% broadcast power to 100%, allowing 4x stronger signal strength which greatly increases distance. If everyone used it, twice as many "channels" would appear on CB, but if a reg CB is operating on say 19, he is occupying 19 Lower, Upper, and Carrier - so you can't talk simultaniously on 19 in SSB.

If ya want cross country all the time spend the 15$ and get your Ham ticket. If ya got a 20w SSB "CB", it is an imported 10M and not legal for use in the US. Just sayin ;)

Cheers

So, what do you have?

BlueRidgeYJ 01-27-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 03WranglerRubicon

So, what do you have?

A Yaesu FT-2900R 144Mhz 2M radio currently with a 4' 2M Firestik.

If I were to get a CB it would likely be a Cobra 29LX, but I haven't had much of a need for one.

truthiness 03-10-2013 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HotRodWillys (Post 3282923)
Ordered everything from amazon.com. Got everything shipped by Friday. Going to start installing tomorrow.

How'd the install go? How's it work?

HotRodWillys 03-11-2013 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by truthiness (Post 3483569)

How'd the install go? How's it work?

Well honestly, I don't have it installed yet. I've been "engineering" the rest of my A pillar switch wiring. I am going to install a dedicated 12v socket to power the CB here also. I have powered it up and hooked the external antenna. I love the CB itself. Fits good in my hand, buttons are well laid out, etc.

I was going to wait until I swap over to my soft top to install it but I'm having work done on my garage ceiling so I can't hang my hard top up just yet.

truthiness 03-12-2013 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HotRodWillys (Post 3487684)
Well honestly, I don't have it installed yet. I've been "engineering" the rest of my A pillar switch wiring. I am going to install a dedicated 12v socket to power the CB here also. I have powered it up and hooked the external antenna. I love the CB itself. Fits good in my hand, buttons are well laid out, etc.

I was going to wait until I swap over to my soft top to install it but I'm having work done on my garage ceiling so I can't hang my hard top up just yet.

Did you check to make sure your console didn't already have a 12v socket? I have a Sport S and was pleasantly surprised to find one there. Works perfectly and stays on when ignition is off.

HotRodWillys 03-12-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by truthiness (Post 3491630)

Did you check to make sure your console didn't already have a 12v socket? I have a Sport S and was pleasantly surprised to find one there. Works perfectly and stays on when ignition is off.

It does. The midlands antennae and 12v are on one cord so I want to plug them both into the A pillar and hang the CB off the roll cage. I'm also going to wire a kill switch under the dash to kill power to the A pillar so when I have the top/ doors off, no one can walk by and flip my switches and kill my battery.


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