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RandyNeagle 01-21-2013 10:37 AM

Currie Steering Installation Problem
 
Hey Everyone,

So I removed my steering linkage assembly last week and replaced it with Currie's Currectlync setup. Currie's design is well engineered to say the least. Anyone considering upgraded steering should look no further.

During Installation, I tried to follow the instructions as closely as possible and I did make extra efforts to turn the steering wheel lock-to-lock (with the engine off) to check for clearances prior to lowering the rig from the jackstands. Since I was working alone, I spent some extra time on this and I noticed that everything was nice and tight when I turned the wheel.

Once completed, I didn't have a chance to drive it so I basically put everything away and waited for another day.

Yesterday, I backed my rig straight out of the garage and turned it to the right to back into my street. Nothing felt wrong. I then turned the wheel to the left (to re-center the steering and drive forward) and everything continued to feel fine.

I then went to turn left and that's when something wrong became obvious. The problem is that I can't turn my steering wheel any further left than center. The steering stop at the right knuckle is not contacted and nothing seems to be binding. When I tried this with the engine off, turning the wheel lock-to-lock was no problem. Now that it's running, my steering feels limited.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Randy

tealj 01-21-2013 10:43 AM

Did you have the steering stabalizer hooked up when you did the initial test, is it mounted correctly? Sorry hard to do without seeing in person, just a guess.

Jerry Bransford 01-21-2013 11:45 AM

Can you post a few fairly close-up well lighted pics of your steering system? Especially how the steering stabilizer is mounted?

RandyNeagle 01-21-2013 12:16 PM

Absolutely, I agree that pictures would help. I'll take some tonight and post them. Thanks!

RandyNeagle 01-22-2013 08:32 AM

Below are photos of the steering linkage. I think they are pretty clear, but they might still not be enough to see what's happening. Each was taken from the front of the vehicle with the wheels basically pointing straight ahead.
I realized when posting these that I don't have a good picture of the pitman arm's position. You can kinda see it in picture #5, but only a little.

Thanks again for any suggestions!


http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps21a04baa.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps3290dcc4.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...pse0143dc0.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps549f47d4.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps54dd4122.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps506502d0.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...psd5d3164f.jpg

Jerry Bransford 01-22-2013 09:08 AM

I don't see anything obviously wrong with your installation. Try having a helper turn the steering wheel for you while you watch everything up front to see what is impacting when it is turned in the direction you're having the problem.

Black Magic Brakes 01-22-2013 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyNeagle (Post 3260569)
Below are photos of the steering linkage. I think they are pretty clear, but they might still not be enough to see what's happening. Each was taken from the front of the vehicle with the wheels basically pointing straight ahead.
I realized when posting these that I don't have a good picture of the pitman arm's position. You can kinda see it in picture #5, but only a little.

Thanks again for any suggestions!


http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps21a04baa.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps3290dcc4.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...pse0143dc0.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps549f47d4.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps54dd4122.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps506502d0.jpg

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...psd5d3164f.jpg


The bracketry on your HP Dana 30 is slightly different and looks like it is interfering with the clamps on the tie rod. Remove the bolts one at a time and replace them with grade 8 3/8-24 and nyloc nuts, point the bolts forward and clamps straight down and let us know what happens.

SCOOPYS-YJ 01-22-2013 06:55 PM

looks like the pitman arm was not at center when you put the link on, looks like alot of threads showing on the sleeve in the last picture.

RandyNeagle 01-22-2013 10:11 PM

I agree with what Scoopy's suggesting. I was ready to replace the tie rod bracket bolts and turn the brackets, but tonight's inspection shows that there's plenty of space on both ends. When I turn the steering wheel all the way to the left, the wheels are basically facing straight ahead and the brackets are not approaching any contacting points. The pitman arm, however, is at about the 2 o'clock position when looking at it from the front of the vehicle. I thought this was suspicious from the beginning and I tried to minimize the amount of threads during the initial installation. The visible threads increased as I adjusted it to center the steering wheel.

How do I redo this to get it right? I suppose I can completely tighten the adjuster and the rod end as much as possible, but that will limit my adjustment to only one direction. What about the pitman arm? What direction should that be pointing (or perhaps where should the steering wheel be turned) to get this right? I would expect the pitman arm to face directly toward the rear of the vehicle when the steering wheel is in the middle of its allowable rotation.

Thanks again! I appreciate any help that's offered.

Black Magic Brakes 01-23-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyNeagle (Post 3264587)
I agree with what Scoopy's suggesting. I was ready to replace the tie rod bracket bolts and turn the brackets, but tonight's inspection shows that there's plenty of space on both ends. When I turn the steering wheel all the way to the left, the wheels are basically facing straight ahead and the brackets are not approaching any contacting points. The pitman arm, however, is at about the 2 o'clock position when looking at it from the front of the vehicle. I thought this was suspicious from the beginning and I tried to minimize the amount of threads during the initial installation. The visible threads increased as I adjusted it to center the steering wheel.

How do I redo this to get it right? I suppose I can completely tighten the adjuster and the rod end as much as possible, but that will limit my adjustment to only one direction. What about the pitman arm? What direction should that be pointing (or perhaps where should the steering wheel be turned) to get this right? I would expect the pitman arm to face directly toward the rear of the vehicle when the steering wheel is in the middle of its allowable rotation.

Thanks again! I appreciate any help that's offered.

Point the wheels straight ahead, drop the TRE out of the pitman and turn the steering wheel just enough to point it at just inside 1 o'clock looking from the front. Look down the sides of both front wheels to make sure they are both close to the same angle relative to the back tires.

The pitman does not point straight back so adjust the sleeve to get it close enough to go in. If the ends of the TRE and draglink hit before you get it close enough, take the sleeve off and cut about 1/4" off of each one and put it back on.

When you get that done, turn it lock to lock, see where the clamps are hitting and fix them. ;)


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