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davidhasselhoff 01-24-2013 05:32 PM

Lift package - yay or meh
 
Hi all! Just getting my feet wet. My 2013 JKU doesn't even have 500 miles yet. Here's what I'm thinking of going with and I'd appreciate your thoughts / comments if you have any! :thumb:

Already have the Mickey Thompson MTZ 33s with 17s waiting for installation.

TeraFlex 2.5" Suspension Lift Kit, (With 9550 Shocks) Part #: TF-1251000

TeraFlex, Exhaust Spacer Kit For Both Driver And Passenger Side Part #: TF-2610000

Spidertrax 1.5" Thick Wheel Spacers, 5x5" Bolt Pattern, Aluminum, (Set of 2) Part #: WSH010

TeraFlex 9550 Heavy Duty Steering Stabilizer SKU: 1513001

Good start?

flyinion 01-24-2013 05:42 PM

Teraflex says minimum 4.5" backspacing for their lifts. You'll need 1.75" Spidertrax not the 1.5. Unless I'm mistaken stock backspacing is 6.25"

kbwwolf 01-24-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhasselhoff (Post 3272891)
Already have the Mickey Thompson MTZ 33s with 17s waiting for installation.

Spidertrax 1.5" Thick Wheel Spacers, 5x5" Bolt Pattern, Aluminum, (Set of 2) Part #: WSH010

The way I'm reading the above is, you have 17" aftermarket wheels to be installed with your MTZs. Is that right? If so, and the wheels have enough backspacing on their own to run those tires with that lift (4.5" or less, as flyinion said), then you DON'T need the wheel spacers.

If you're planning on mounting the MTZs on your stock wheels, then you DO need the spacers. In which case, carry on...

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Originally Posted by davidhasselhoff (Post 3272891)
TeraFlex 9550 Heavy Duty Steering Stabilizer SKU: 1513001

Don't need this; the stock SS is fine...

MistiC NiNja 01-24-2013 07:19 PM

If you have an unlimited with a 2.5" lift, i'd go with 35's. No lift 33's will look alright.

davidhasselhoff 01-24-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion (Post 3272938)
Teraflex says minimum 4.5" backspacing for their lifts. You'll need 1.75" Spidertrax not the 1.5. Unless I'm mistaken stock backspacing is 6.25"

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 3273081)
The way I'm reading the above is, you have 17" aftermarket wheels to be installed with your MTZs. Is that right? If so, and the wheels have enough backspacing on their own to run those tires with that lift (4.5" or less, as flyinion said), then you DON'T need the wheel spacers.

If you're planning on mounting the MTZs on your stock wheels, then you DO need the spacers. In which case, carry on...



Don't need this; the stock SS is fine...

Great feedback guys. Thank you. Yes, I forgot to mention the pro comp 17s I bought have a 4.5" back spacing and will accommodate the lift. The wheel spacers are to give a more aggressive look with the wider stance.

davidhasselhoff 01-24-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MistiC NiNja (Post 3273348)
If you have an unlimited with a 2.5" lift, i'd go with 35's. No lift 33's will look alright.

Thanks ninja. I decided to play it safe with the 33s. I think I'd have to do some fender mods to get 33s on the stock or 35s on the 2.5", no? It wouldn't contact on everyday use but any trail use and I might have some issues.

MikeinMinn 01-24-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhasselhoff (Post 3274531)
Great feedback guys. Thank you. Yes, I forgot to mention the pro comp 17s I bought have a 4.5" back spacing and will accommodate the lift. The wheel spacers are to give a more aggressive look with the wider stance.

The wider stance comes at the expense of wheel bearing life. The further away the center-line of the tire/wheel is from the hub, the more leverage it has. Just something to consider since the purpose was primarily aesthetic.

kbwwolf 01-25-2013 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeinMinn (Post 3274571)
The wider stance comes at the expense of wheel bearing life. The further away the center-line of the tire/wheel is from the hub, the more leverage it has. Just something to consider since the purpose was primarily aesthetic.

^^This.

Plus, it's just another part that can come loose or fail. Check em for proper torque every tire rotation, if you decide to use em...

Lucy Brown 01-25-2013 07:47 AM

3.25 lift with 35's. you wont regret it. i know many people that got 33's then wish they got 35's.

davidhasselhoff 01-25-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy Brown (Post 3275646)
3.25 lift with 35's. you wont regret it. i know many people that got 33's then wish they got 35's.

Thanks Lucy. I forgot to mention in this thread that my primary issue is the ceiling height in my parking garage. The clearance bar says 6'8" or 80". My stock Jeep, 32s with the sunrider soft top hardware, is somewhere around 73" to 74". I've measured around the garage at about a dozen different places, water lines, hvac pipes, and at the lowest point, I have almost exactly 6" of clearance. I've been told with a 3.25" lift and 33s, I will clear around 6" which is just too close for comfort. With 35s you're talking another 1" gain and I'll definitely be tearing pipes down at that height. :hide:

davidhasselhoff 01-25-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 3273081)
Don't need this; the stock SS is fine...

At what point does a steering stabilizer become useful? Reading some of the other forums, it sounds like a lot of people use them as a bandaid for a little shake or a more serious problem, and others say "it can't hurt" to put an upgraded SS on. Sounds like it just tightens up the feel of the steering wheel a little. I agree I'm probably fine with the stock on a 2.5" lift and 33s (not too heavy).

Matador 01-25-2013 11:52 AM

In "theory" you don't even need one. Its function is to absorb things like bumpsteer and sudden jolts to the steering. But under normal driving conditions and if your Jeep is dialed in perfectly, it does nothing major.

MikeK46 01-25-2013 01:36 PM

What kind of vehicles come equipped with steering stabilizers? All solid front axle vehicles? Vehicles that may go off-road? I don't ever remember seeing one until I bought my Jeep.

engineeredjku 01-25-2013 02:38 PM

With my 3" lift and 35" tires it raises the height by 4.5". So you should be fine with 6" to spare.

kbwwolf 01-25-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhasselhoff (Post 3276321)
At what point does a steering stabilizer become useful? Reading some of the other forums, it sounds like a lot of people use them as a bandaid for a little shake or a more serious problem, and others say "it can't hurt" to put an upgraded SS on. Sounds like it just tightens up the feel of the steering wheel a little. I agree I'm probably fine with the stock on a 2.5" lift and 33s (not too heavy).

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Originally Posted by Matador (Post 3276346)
In "theory" you don't even need one. Its function is to absorb things like bumpsteer and sudden jolts to the steering. But under normal driving conditions and if your Jeep is dialed in perfectly, it does nothing major.

Pretty much what Matador said...

One issue is that they can mask potential issues with alignment, caster being off, etc. Also, some of the gas-charged versions cause the Jeep to "pull" one way or the other. And dual steering stabilizers can cause other problems.

Just one of those things there's no need to change, unless and until you blow up the stock SS...at least IMO. I bashed mine pretty good on a rock (I think) last spring, and replaced it with a cheapo; haven't noticed any difference at all.


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