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jemmie 02-08-2013 11:20 AM

Ultra easy softtop - like a convertible
 
I just got a 2005 Rubicon and love it. The only thing that I don't like is how difficult the softtop is to put up, take down, etc. What am I comparing it to? I had a Honda S2000 and currently have a Porsche Boxster S and those are pushing a button and pushing a clip - 10-15 second one person jobs.

I don't even care about the power aspects of the S2000/Boxster top but the top on my TJ right now is difficult to even get the front clips on with one person and then there are many other clips, zippers, sides, etc.

Is there a top out there that is an ultra easy pull up, clip on, and done? I'm willing to pay a premium for such a top.

Thanks.

Atthehop 02-08-2013 11:37 AM

Keep wishing but I have never seen one.

Neil F. 02-08-2013 11:58 AM

The OEM is the best you are going to get.

Difficulty doing the front clips means youy are doing it wrong. You hook the header clamps first. Putting up/down only takes one person. 2-3 minutes folded down (properly) and a couple minutes longer to put up. There are lots of videos on youtube and google videos on how to do the top plus lots of posts.

No matter what, you have to zip out the windows. The top will not go down properly without removing them and if you try to leave them in, they will get scratched and torn.

There used to be a power top conversion from Dennis Barker. It was very expensive, did not remove the windows and created a massive stack on the back. It's not around anymore.

clarkkent 02-08-2013 12:24 PM

It's gonna just take some getting used to is all. When I first got my jeep I thought it was difficult to take the top down. But you will get better at it with time. I know it sounds silly but there is a thread about how to put down the soft top and have it look nice. That thread has a few pointers that just make things easier.

That being said it still takes a few minutes even when your good.

One thing I did is put zip ties through the zippers on my jeep. They act kind of like a pull handle and are much easier

Jeffreybomb 02-08-2013 12:26 PM

You're just going to have to practice. When I got my soft top on (mine originally came with a hard top), I was swearing left and right trying to get it up and down. Now, though, I can do it in a few minutes with no problems.

You should also keep in mind that you don't have to take the top completely off; just unzip the windows, toss 'em in the back, and you're good. There's a bunch of different ways to ride with a soft top.

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Originally Posted by clarkkent (Post 3338409)
One thing I did is put zip ties through the zippers on my jeep. They act kind of like a pull handle and are much easier

I was thinking of getting a thin nylon rope, sort of like what zippers on North Face coats use.

I saw another thread in which someone suggested mailing tubes to slide your windows into when you take them off. I think I'm going to have to try that this year.

03Ruth 02-08-2013 12:47 PM

Hey Jeffrey, I am currently in the process of getting a soft top so I have no personal experience to share. But I was going through the cheap mods thread and seen where a guy used the case from one of those large collapsible chairs and placed his windows in between soft beach towels, rolled them up and slid them in the case. The length was just right to sit it on top of the soft top and secure it. It was maybe 8-10 pages back from the last post if your interested.

JDT 02-08-2013 12:50 PM

My OEM top was a pain where it clips into the door surrounds, I don't know why, but it was. I've got a bestop halftop now, and though it's an entirely different animal the door surround clips are much much easier to remove on this top.

Jeffreybomb 02-08-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Ruth (Post 3338534)
... a guy used the case from one of those large collapsible chairs and placed his windows in between soft beach towels, rolled them up and slid them in the case.

Hahah, yes! That was it. I knew packaging tubes sounded wrong. :)

Thanks!

Crazyflyingplastics 02-08-2013 01:06 PM

To the op, if you are trying to put the top up when it's below 60 degrees, it's definitely going to be a PITA. As a few already mentioned, it just takes . I can put up the entire top, inlcuding zipping in side windows within 2-3 minutes.

Atthehop 02-08-2013 01:06 PM

I got very good at putting a top on jeeps when I got caught in a massive rain storm on the interstate and had to put it up ASAP. The more you do it the better you get at it. I can do it in with my eyes closed after only having a soft top these last 9 years.

jemmie 02-08-2013 11:17 PM

Thanks for all the responses. I will have to watch a few of the videos. Maybe I'm an idiot. But that can't be all of it. It looks like even the experts here take at least 2-3 minutes, which is literally 10-15x longer than a typical convertible.

Clearly this is a First World Problem, but wouldn't it be beautiful if the TJ had a 10-15 second softtop?

CMA_Rider 02-08-2013 11:23 PM

Eventually you'll get it to where in the summer it takes 2min to put it down and 5min to put up properly

CMA_Rider 02-08-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jemmie (Post 3341583)
Clearly this is a First World Problem, but wouldn't it be beautiful if the TJ had a 10-15 second softtop?

Thats actually affordable

nitrocoastie 02-09-2013 07:38 AM

Something like this???

http://www.quadratec.com/products/11119_0135_07.htm

Jeffreybomb 02-09-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jemmie (Post 3341583)
It looks like even the experts here take at least 2-3 minutes, which is literally 10-15x longer than a typical convertible.

I think 2 to 3 minutes (and an additional 2 or 3 for the doors) is a small price to pay to drive around the world's greatest convertible. :)

sparky 02-09-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jemmie (Post 3341583)
Clearly this is a First World Problem, but wouldn't it be beautiful if the TJ had a 10-15 second softtop?

No - more to break, more to go wrong. They are not sports cars.

Patrick H 02-09-2013 01:29 PM

Lets see, a few minutes to put down the top on a Jeep, even a Chrysler Jeep, vs. driving a Japanese or European car.... I know where I stand on this..:D

TJDave 02-09-2013 01:44 PM

The more you do it, the easier it gets. I watched some videos and tips. Eventually, you will come up with your own system that works best with your top and Jeep. No two are exactly the same.

I have to manually roll down my windows and lock my doors too. So inconvenient! Would not have it any other way!


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