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ffjeepdaddy 02-12-2013 05:18 PM

BF or Goodyear?!
 
So I'm debating on whether to get BF or GY for my jeep. definitely getting 31's but can't make up my mind on which. Just didn't know what you all thought. Suggestions and or pictures of yours!

Gixxer86g 02-12-2013 05:23 PM

Which BF Goodrich and which Goodyear? Lot's of other great brands out there as well. I'm looking to do the same over the next few weeks. I currently have Wrangler GSAs. They came on the Jeep and they GSA (Generally Suck). :whistling:

ffjeepdaddy 02-12-2013 05:27 PM

Looking at BF A/T, GY duratrac or MTR

Cons_Table 02-12-2013 05:28 PM

I am guessing the debate is between the KM2 and the Kevlars?

I am running Kevlars and have ZERO complaints. They have done everything I need them to.

That said...the KM2s seem to perform well also. Either way I don't think you can wrong.

Luck881 02-12-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gixxer86g (Post 3359365)
Which BF Goodrich and which Goodyear? Lot's of other great brands out there as well. I'm looking to do the same over the next few weeks. I currently have Wrangler GSAs. They came on the Jeep and they GSA (Generally Suck). :whistling:

I'd always went by "Get Stuck Anywhere"...

I bought KM2's from a friend and am happy with them even in snow and ice, they're great offroad. If you're looking for an AT type though, I have duratracs on my Ram and they're hard to beat but I imagine a KM2 or Kevlar would out do it in heavy rocks.

Also had Mickey Thompson MTZ's when I had 31's. They were a great all around tire.

Luck881 02-12-2013 05:52 PM

I just noticed the OP's second post. I'd go duratracs if you get any kind of winter in DE.

Cons_Table 02-12-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ffjeepdaddy (Post 3359380)
Looking at BF A/T, GY duratrac or MTR

What is your wheeling/driving include? The MTR really should be in another category from the BFG or the duratrac.

whiteyjfm 02-12-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cons_Table (Post 3359467)
What is your wheeling/driving include? The MTR really should be in another category from the BFG or the duratrac.

Can you explain a bit more on why the MTR's should be in a different category that the BFG's please. We are in SoCal and we have to decide between these to too.

Thanks.

ffjeepdaddy 02-12-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cons_Table (Post 3359467)
What is your wheeling/driving include? The MTR really should be in another category from the BFG or the duratrac.

Mostly highway miles but it will be going off road, mud, field driving for hunting. I'm looking for a aggressive look to the tire.

Cons_Table 02-12-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteyjfm (Post 3359514)
Can you explain a bit more on why the MTR's should be in a different category that the BFG's please. We are in SoCal and we have to decide between these to too.

Thanks.

The BFG all terrain is just that...an all terrain. It has smaller tread blocks. It is meant to handle the trails to an extent but still be a reliable tire on the road as well.

The MTR kevlars have the larger tread blocks and are geared more towards offroad use. Not only is the tread pattern more aggresive but even the sidewall "tread" is more aggressive. On top of this, it is a 3 ply sidewall (the BFG is too) but one of those 3 plys is a kevlar ply, which is supposed to make the sidewalls less vulnerable to rock punctures. Nothing says the Kevlar can't be run on a street rig (I have them on my DD), just don't expect them to get the same kind of mileage that you will see from an all terrain.

Cons_Table 02-12-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ffjeepdaddy (Post 3359518)
Mostly highway miles but it will be going off road, mud, field driving for hunting. I'm looking for a aggressive look to the tire.

With the amount of miles you put on your jeep, I would definitely consider the BFG ATs or the Duratracs. If you get a good amount of snow where you live, I hear the Duratracs are great in these conditions. I ran the BFGs before getting my Kevlars, and they were a great tire and wore very well. However, I don't have a lot of experience with them in the snow since I dont get much of that where I live.

Brew 02-12-2013 09:30 PM

If you're concerned about how long they last, the easy choice is the BFG AT. They will last much longer than an aggressive MT or Duratracs with soft rubber compound. I have a set of BFG ATs with 50k miles on them and another 20k on tread left.

silverhero2005 02-12-2013 10:42 PM

Duratracs get my vote

dustymc 02-13-2013 01:55 AM

I love my MTRs. They're great in rock, more than I'd hoped for in mud, OK in snow, and fine (if a little squirrely at 75MPH) on the highway. I've got close to 15,000 miles on them now and they look like new - I'm not sure how they'll eventually wear, but we're off to a great start. The only place they suck is in deep fine sand - they spin about 2 seconds and you're setting on the frame rails looking for something to hook a winch cable to, not that a MT tire should be expected to do anything else.

MarkGLHS 02-13-2013 02:23 AM

gotta be the Duratracs.

silver690_1 02-13-2013 02:33 AM

BF Goodrich seem to be the tyre most people have here in uk...ATs well known for lasting well MTs excellent on dirt /grass/ bog/rock and extra excellent in snow as i found out when i had my L200, right now i have a yj running bridgestone dueller MTs and i personally think theyre every bit as good as the BF range , ive never got stuck not even in the sand/mud estuary where we live or in snow where i passed loads of landys on ATs on steep hills with with ease ;-] if you can put up with slightly noisier road noise go for the MTs .... They also look cool !!!

Gixxer86g 02-13-2013 05:18 AM

Right now I'm leaning towards DC Fun Country 2s.

JeepnJim 02-13-2013 07:35 AM

Duratracs

Cons_Table 02-13-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dustymc (Post 3361671)
I love my MTRs. They're great in rock, more than I'd hoped for in mud, OK in snow, and fine (if a little squirrely at 75MPH) on the highway. I've got close to 15,000 miles on them now and they look like new - I'm not sure how they'll eventually wear, but we're off to a great start. The only place they suck is in deep fine sand - they spin about 2 seconds and you're setting on the frame rails looking for something to hook a winch cable to, not that a MT tire should be expected to do anything else.

Interesting...ive got probably 20k on mine and have close to 50% tread left...definitely not new. That is still a lot of life, but the lugs definitely arent as deep.

As far as deep fine sand...sounds like user error may be playing some factor. Low tire pressure and momentum are key to staying on top of the sand.

ffjeepdaddy 02-13-2013 08:37 AM

What about in the sand?

DetroitRodeo 02-13-2013 08:44 AM

I've always used BFG AT or MT, have always had a great experience with them. Currently running the BFG MT and will be the tire I replace these with when the time comes.

Cons_Table 02-13-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ffjeepdaddy (Post 3362380)
What about in the sand?

What do u mean? Dirt roads arent bad. But sandy washes or dunes, the best way to navigate them is with low tire pressure and some momentum. The low pressure allows your tire to create a larger footprint. It is easier to try and "float" on the sand rather than try to dig through it. This goes for any tire though not just the MTRs

PStov98TJ 02-13-2013 09:00 AM

I ran Goodyear silent armors on mine then switched to the mtr's with Kevlar once they wore down. And I gotta say I love both of them. The mtr is a much more aggressive tire though. And as far as the BFG a/t or mtr. I'd go mtr. But the km2's aren't a bad tire either.

ESP 02-13-2013 09:02 AM

I've seen a lot of the MT/Rs cup. The tread design after a while starts to wear more in the lower "smaller" tread depth area of the tire. Even with a good and normal tire rotation, this flat area loses height in a disproportionate way to the rest of the tread causing cupping.

The Duratrac is probably the very best AT tire available and has been for some time. It really is the cat's meow when it comes to an AT.

freeskier 02-13-2013 09:09 AM

It should be noted the Goodyear MT/R Kevlars are not mud terrain tires. MT/R stands for Maximum Traction Reinforced. They excel in the rocks as do very well in all other conditions, rain/snow/mud/etc...

OP if your worried about mileage stick with the A/T tires. I love my MT/Rs and I could really care less about mileage, I prefer performance. Plus I put very little miles on the Jeep so even if they last 30k miles that's still 8+ years of life for me.

fishingranger 02-13-2013 09:13 AM

BFG AT- I'm on my 3rd set. They all give me ovr 50,000 miles. Hwy, dirt road, back road, river, mountains, ice and snow. Mud..... no problem. Big bang for your buck.

Cons_Table 02-13-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 3362457)
It should be noted the Goodyear MT/R Kevlars are not mud terrain tires. MT/R stands for Maximum Traction Reinforced. They excel in the rocks as do very well in all other conditions, rain/snow/mud/etc...

x2 on this...since with most tires "MT" stands for mud terrain, this is commonly mistaken by people for the MTRs.

Jerry Bransford 02-13-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ESP (Post 3362439)
I've seen a lot of the MT/Rs cup. The tread design after a while starts to wear more in the lower "smaller" tread depth area of the tire. Even with a good and normal tire rotation, this flat area loses height in a disproportionate way to the rest of the tread causing cupping.

So you have never personally owned MT/Rs right? FYI, cupping is not caused by the tire itself, it is caused by other problems like bad shocks, bad tire balance, and/or bad alignment. Cheap low-end tires are more vulnerable to such problems but the kevlar MT/R is obviously not in that class of tire.

I am on my third set of MT/R tires and there has never been any cupping and probably 90% of the guys I rock crawl with are running MT/R tires. Their MT/Rs don't cup, my MT/Rs don't cup.... cupping is obviously not a common issue with the MT/R.

PStov98TJ 02-13-2013 10:07 AM

Could that also be a result of over inflation? Shouldn't the mtrs be run around 30 psi? Just asking...

Jerry Bransford 02-13-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PStov98TJ (Post 3362639)
Could that also be a result of over inflation? Shouldn't the mtrs be run around 30 psi? Just asking...

The correct tire pressure depends as much on the tire size as it does the weight of the vehicle. When supporting a vehicle with the weight of a Wrangler, 30 PSI would be about right for most 30x9.50 tires but with my Load Range C 35x12.50 MT/Rs, 24-26 is about right for the street.


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