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l8nitebreakfast 03-02-2013 02:56 PM

Ford 8.8 vs Dana 60
 
I just wanted thoughts on the two rear axles. I plan on replacing the rear axle on my 97 TJ.

When I build it how I want on East Coast Gear Supply they're the same price. About $2700 after I add all the options.

I guess my question is... Why are so many people getting the 8.8 from them if its priced the same as the Dana 60?

2JeepsThatRun 03-02-2013 03:18 PM

The Dana 60 from my understanding has a huge pumpkin which can make clearances with the gas tank and track bars tight. Also with a super 88 kit that eliminates the c clips in an 8.8 the strengths are pretty close. The 8.8 also has a good size ring gear not sure on the thickness of the 60.

freeskier 03-02-2013 05:45 PM

Let me know when you can get a D60 installed for anywhere near 2700$. Simply throwing a D60 under your rig is a bad idea. It's a full width axle that is best suited for 40" tires and is going to require lots of work and money to properly run.

UnlimitedLJ04 03-02-2013 05:59 PM

what tires you going to run?

33s or 35s? then get the 8.8.

38s or 40s? then get the D60, and plan on cutting the frame & tub apart for major suspension geometry work.

lovethetrails5 03-02-2013 08:04 PM

why spend 2700 on an 8.8 when u can find a old explorer and get it for couple hundred

noise_maker 03-22-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lovethetrails5 (Post 3445467)
why spend 2700 on an 8.8 when u can find a old explorer and get it for couple hundred

sure but depending on what you are doing its gonna still cost you quite a bit to set up right.

I don't know about 2700 but I just did mine for 1500 delivered from ECGS with me just doing the locker install and gear setup.


If you do it right (seals, bearings, master install kit, new gears, locker) ECGS is very competitive for most things. They do get expensive on the stupid shizzo like e-break cables, breaks, rotors, diff covers, and gear setups though.

For me the difference between the cheapest sources for everything:
8.8, Gears, Locker, Master install kits, axle bearings and seals, new hard break lines, better brackets.
it was only ~200 more to just have them clean it up and put it together in a jig and ship it to me. For me its well worth that to not run around getting an axle, striping it clean, welding the brackets on in the correct places and painting it.


You could do it cheaper if you are willing to run 4.10 gears and a crappy factory LS with bearings and seals that are 10+ years old with unknown mileage, using plazzed off TJ brackets but with the work involved to do an axle swap - why do a halfa$$ed job that will probably cause you trail trouble?

lovethetrails5 03-22-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by noise_maker (Post 3538749)

sure but depending on what you are doing its gonna still cost you quite a bit to set up right.

I don't know about 2700 but I just did mine for 1500 delivered from ECGS with me just doing the locker install and gear setup.

If you do it right (seals, bearings, master install kit, new gears, locker) ECGS is very competitive for most things. They do get expensive on the stupid shizzo like e-break cables, breaks, rotors, diff covers, and gear setups though.

For me the difference between the cheapest sources for everything:
8.8, Gears, Locker, Master install kits, axle bearings and seals, new hard break lines, better brackets.
it was only ~200 more to just have them clean it up and put it together in a jig and ship it to me. For me its well worth that to not run around getting an axle, striping it clean, welding the brackets on in the correct places and painting it.

You could do it cheaper if you are willing to run 4.10 gears and a crappy factory LS with bearings and seals that are 10+ years old with unknown mileage, using plazzed off TJ brackets but with the work involved to do an axle swap - why do a halfa$$ed job that will probably cause you trail trouble?

Thanks for the input man i was actually looking at them a week or so ago might save up to go that route but luke you said have to do the gears after because they dont have 4.88 gears

GoldenSahara00 03-22-2013 01:42 PM

The biggest reason is the 8.8 is a strong axle for its size, specifically width, and fits well in our jeeps without much work.

noise_maker 03-22-2013 02:41 PM

This has been around for awhile but is a decent read

4x4 Truck Axle Tech - Four Wheeler Magazine



Axle COT MOT
(lb-ft)* (lb-ft)**
Ford 8.8 IFS/IRS 1,250 4,600
Dana 60, 61-SF Rear 1,500 5,500
Dana 60, 61HD-FF Rear 1,500 6,000


As far as a D60 vs 8.8 goes - the 60 is stronger but has its own issues that come with it. If I was willing to move the tank and run a stretched long arm setup and wanted to be able to run 38s+ then 60s all the way. If you going to stay under the 37" mark and wan't less of a headache with suspension, axle width and drive line geometry then go with the 8.8.

I am glad I did the 8,8 for my setup as there is no way i could have stuffed a 60 under there without fairly major redesign. (4" lift + flat skid tummy tuck +MML) For me with the bigger pumpkin on the 8.8, even with it pushed back as far as I could get it without hitting the tank, I still ended up with a wicked drive line angle - Basicaly if I had even a 1/2 more down travel at full droop the u-joints in the CV head would start to bind. The 60s snout would be even bigger and have been worse for me.

noise_maker 03-22-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovethetrails5 (Post 3538791)
Thanks for the input man i was actually looking at them a week or so ago might save up to go that route but luke you said have to do the gears after because they dont have 4.88 gears

I missed it but if you follow them om FB and some of the forums they do offer %10 off from time to time - normally around different holidays.

scot68 03-22-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovethetrails5 (Post 3445467)
why spend 2700 on an 8.8 when u can find a old explorer and get it for couple hundred

In my case after doing the math and the fact I don't have a welder or much spare time the difference in price was only a few hundred bucks. I am glad I went the ECGS route, but everybody's situation is different.

GoldenSahara00 03-22-2013 05:18 PM

I thinks ECGS has their pirate discount all year long.

geiman 03-22-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 3539542)
I thinks ECGS has their pirate discount all year long.

I've never been able to get an actual discount from them, but they do have a pirate code for free shipping.

GoldenSahara00 03-22-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by geiman (Post 3540038)

I've never been able to get an actual discount from them, but they do have a pirate code for free shipping.

I knew I had some kind of discount when I got my 8.8 brakes. The free shipping saved me about 15% of what I was buying. So pretty nice.

mudboy71 10-06-2013 11:35 PM

I know this thread is kind of old....but I have been researching the same thing between the ECGS Dana 60 and the ECGS 8.8.....I have also compared the G2 Dana 44 in the mix.....I want 4.88 with Ox lockers.....Currently running 33s but plan to go to 36s or possibly 40s.....the G2 44 is 3000 configured like I want it.....the 8.8 is 3200 shipped and the 60 is 3800 shipped.....all.of these are ready to bolt on with disc brakes etc......I know the 60 is overkill for 36s but I really feel the 36s will just be a step off point to later go to 40s or I may just go right to 40s.....for the price difference between the 60 and the other two axles and the only downsides I can see are a little more weight and a little loss of ground clearance....but not that much.....so, for 600 to 800 difference, I will prob go with the ECGS Dana 60.....

2JeepsThatRun 10-06-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mudboy71 (Post 5151009)
I know this thread is kind of old....but I have been researching the same thing between the ECGS Dana 60 and the ECGS 8.8.....I have also compared the G2 Dana 44 in the mix.....I want 4.88 with Ox lockers.....Currently running 33s but plan to go to 36s or possibly 40s.....the G2 44 is 3000 configured like I want it.....the 8.8 is 3200 shipped and the 60 is 3800 shipped.....all.of these are ready to bolt on with disc brakes etc......I know the 60 is overkill for 36s but I really feel the 36s will just be a step off point to later go to 40s or I may just go right to 40s.....for the price difference between the 60 and the other two axles and the only downsides I can see are a little more weight and a little loss of ground clearance....but not that much.....so, for 600 to 800 difference, I will prob go with the ECGS Dana 60.....

Will you be able to fit it with the stock gas tank? If not that will add another $600 on to the price for a gas tank and skid or a fuel cell.

mudboy71 10-06-2013 11:56 PM

Yes....I know.....I have a leak in the top of my stock tank.....already planning to replace it with a PureJeep tank from Quadratect......695 with free shipping.....are you ballparking 600 or do you know where I can actually get one for 600?.....Would like to save a hundred anywhere I can......lol

2JeepsThatRun 10-08-2013 11:46 PM

Just kinda picked a number probably should have looked it up first, but this is the tank and skid I was thinking of it's $899 but you get an aluminum tank and thick steal skid. http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo....2#.UlTekGS9Kc0

mudboy71 10-09-2013 12:31 PM

I have looked at the Genright tank and other products...I am a shop it to the last penny kind of guy....annoys the crap out of my wife.....lol.....biggest prob with Genright is their shipping charges are ridiculous when compared to others such as Undercover Fab and Poison Spyder....The PureJeep tank looks as good as the Genright for a lot less money especially if I can get it with free shipping...did look at Quadratec today and the free shipping offer is gone so now it is 695 plus 69 bucks for shipping....I will look around some more or wait for them to offer free shipping again

2JeepsThatRun 10-09-2013 12:50 PM

I never realized it is a stretch tank that's a pretty good price then

mudboy71 10-09-2013 08:49 PM

I have read but dont know if true or not, that the PureJeep tanks were designed by the same guy that designed the Genright tanks...But it says it is for 5" stretch on Dana 44 and 4" on the Dana 60...


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