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Tball 03-02-2013 07:51 PM

Has anyone used shallow subwoofers?
 
Does anyone have any experience with the shallow mount subs? Something like the Pioneer TS-sw301 or Soundstream Stealth-13. These are the two I am looking at currently but not sure if it is worth it or if I should just go with a regular sized sub.

Things I am wanting to know about shallow mounted subs are:
-How do they sound
-Where do you have them mounted
-How much power do you have them hooked up to
-Are they audible with the top down
-What kind of box are you using

Thanks in advnace

yellowtailfan 03-06-2013 10:23 AM

I personally am researching stereo upgrades at the moment. I'd search this forum for that topic...it's been discussed a lot and there are some great pics in a few.

Tball 03-06-2013 12:03 PM

I have looked but haven't found anything specifically about the shallow mount subs. What are you looking at doing?

coastalwrangler 03-06-2013 04:30 PM

I know that you have to be careful with them and break them in properly. I've read a lot of good reviews on the pioneer and kenwood shallows. As for mounting they are good for the boxes built into the bottom of the rear seat.

Jma20a 03-06-2013 05:12 PM

just slap an infinty basslink in the back, takes up less than half your trunk and is the only "small" size sub i would recommend, its easy to install and sounds great.

4Left 03-06-2013 05:26 PM

I too have spent a lot of time researching this topic. I am very interested in a shallow mount sub. Looking for boxes that go under the back seat. Also interested in mounting the amp in the front seat bracket.

Tball 03-06-2013 08:27 PM

I will look into the infinity basslink.


I too am considering mounting the amp under the front seat. As far as the subs being under the rear seat I'm not so sure. There is little to no space between the seat and the floor when the seats are down. Will this be a problem?

jeepinmarine 03-06-2013 10:37 PM

i have had the pioneer TS-SW1241 which is pretty much the same one you were looking at but handles more power, I have it in the UD-SW12B enclosure behind my rear seat and a 1000w amp under the rear seat. It sounds great with the top on or off and I've had no problems with it the six years I've had it.

spr0k3t 03-06-2013 10:43 PM

You should check out some of the pictures. There's at least an inch or two for long throw subs, but with the shallow mount, it's doubtful you will ever see that much excursion.

Mattk11 03-07-2013 08:03 AM

I am using a Fosgate P3SD2-10 with a 300 watt PBR amp. Sound quality and output are better than I expected. I put it in the stock location which is why I had to go shallow mount and the amp under the dash.

Tball 03-08-2013 09:53 AM

I think I'm going to buy a shallow sub and mount it on the tailgate. I'm thinking in going with the pioneer ts-sw2501s4 with a 1500watt amp under the front passenger seat

Jma20a 03-08-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tball (Post 3476554)
I think I'm going to buy a shallow sub and mount it on the tailgate. I'm thinking in going with the pioneer ts-sw2501s4 with a 1500watt amp under the front passenger seat

That sub is rated at 300 watts rms, no need for a 1500 watt amp. You dont go by the peak rating uou go by the rms power rating. You will blow that sub if you try to send it any more than 450 watts

Tball 03-08-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jma20a (Post 3477211)
That sub is rated at 300 watts rms, no need for a 1500 watt amp. You dont go by the peak rating uou go by the rms power rating. You will blow that sub if you try to send it any more than 450 watts

I must have miss read that. Thanks for pointing that out! in that case do you have any suggestions for a shallow mount sub that can handle 1500 w (if thats even possible)? The amp that i have is a nice one and would like to keep it if possible

coastalwrangler 03-08-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tball (Post 3478653)

I must have miss read that. Thanks for pointing that out! in that case do you have any suggestions for a shallow mount sub that can handle 1500 w (if thats even possible)? The amp that i have is a nice one and would like to keep it if possible

What amp do you have? It may not be 1500 true rms

Jma20a 03-08-2013 08:53 PM

Ive never seen a 1500 watt rms shallow sub.

Tball 03-08-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coastalwrangler (Post 3478754)
What amp do you have? It may not be 1500 true rms

its a Bazooka MGA11500H - pHat Tuesday 1 x 1500 Watt Amplifier.
link:
BAZOOKA Mobile Audio - MGA11500H - pHat Tuesday 1 x 1500 Watt Amplifier

What would be the best amp for the most "bang"?

Jma20a 03-08-2013 09:58 PM

Sound solutions audio has an online store and offers a great deal of high quality amps, subs, wires, speakers, batteries and such

lolpetewtf 03-09-2013 06:48 PM

I have a flat 10" Pioneer I love:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8046/8...9fddaae6_b.jpg

coastalwrangler 03-10-2013 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tball (Post 3479238)

its a Bazooka MGA11500H - pHat Tuesday 1 x 1500 Watt Amplifier.
link:
BAZOOKA Mobile Audio - MGA11500H - pHat Tuesday 1 x 1500 Watt Amplifier

What would be the best amp for the most "bang"?

I definitely wouldn't hook that up to any shallow sub. I don't know of any that are rated near that. That's a good amp for a lot of bang but you could push bigger setups with it. You won't get a lot of bass that can be heard around the block without sacrificing some cargo room.

Tball 03-10-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolpetewtf (Post 3482313)
I have a flat 10" Pioneer I love:

What watt amp do you have it hooked up to? I'm looking at a 12" pioneer sub

Tball 03-10-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coastalwrangler (Post 3483656)

I definitely wouldn't hook that up to any shallow sub. I don't know of any that are rated near that. That's a good amp for a lot of bang but you could push bigger setups with it. You won't get a lot of bass that can be heard around the block without sacrificing some cargo room.

Looks like I will be selling my amp then as well :(

coastalwrangler 03-10-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tball (Post 3484979)

Looks like I will be selling my amp then as well :(

With the msrp on the amp you have you could probably sell it for enough to finance a pretty good sub and amp combo.

Kflagg 03-13-2013 06:04 AM

I just ordered a complete system including a 12" pioneer ts-sw3001s4 shallow sub and pioneer box designed for the sub...when I get everything installed I will let everyone know how it sounds.

The sub is rated at 400 watts rms and the amp I went with is a alpine mrp-f300 rated at 300 watts rms.

coastalwrangler 03-13-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kflagg (Post 3497128)
I just ordered a complete system including a 12" pioneer ts-sw3001s4 shallow sub and pioneer box designed for the sub...when I get everything installed I will let everyone know how it sounds.

The sub is rated at 400 watts rms and the amp I went with is a alpine mrp-f300 rated at 300 watts rms.

You may want to check that amp again. The f300 is a 4 channel amp, not a mono sub amp.

Kflagg 03-13-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coastalwrangler (Post 3497474)
You may want to check that amp again. The f300 is a 4 channel amp, not a mono sub amp.

Lol your correct I ordered a mrv-m500 also got them mixed up. Thanks :thumb:

Tball 03-13-2013 11:23 PM

alright I am selling all of what i have...

Two 12" subs w enclosure --> Dual BP1204 12-Inch 1100-Watt Bandpass Subwoofer

One 10" sub w enclosure and 350watt amp (fit for trucks) --> Pro Box Rocks 10" sub with amp

One 1500watt amp w capacitor --> MGA11500H - pHat Tuesday 1 x 1500 Watt Amplifier

message me for additional info

darkknight1999 03-16-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tball (Post 3445072)
Does anyone have any experience with the shallow mount subs? Something like the Pioneer TS-sw301 or Soundstream Stealth-13. These are the two I am looking at currently but not sure if it is worth it or if I should just go with a regular sized sub.

Things I am wanting to know about shallow mounted subs are:
-How do they sound
-Where do you have them mounted
-How much power do you have them hooked up to
-Are they audible with the top down
-What kind of box are you using

Thanks in advnace

I know I'm new here, so just as an information aside, I've been building car audio systems for about 20 years or so. I owned my own car audio shop as well... My day job though Electrician, a Licensed Telecommunications, Sound and Data Infrastructure Engineer/Designer contractor.

Having said that,

1. Shallow subs sound great in the right box
2. You have more mounting options (in the back up against the side like the sub, you can have one custom mounted in a custom box in the center console, or a custom box built into the sound bar, or up under the dash.) Each of those installs just requires time and money and the stranger the request the more money it will cost to build the box and mount it.
3. The power requirements vary with each sub.
4. If you have the right power and the system is designed correctly I could make your system loud enough that you will need ear plugs...
5. Boxes can be made from fiberglass, MDF or a combo of both.

The biggest thing and the questions that I don't think anyone has asked you are:
1. What are your goals for the system?
2. What type of music do you normally listen to?
3. How do you like to listen to it? (Everyones ears are different and therefore everyones taste in sound is different. So how do you like to hear it, do you like the treble high or low, mids high or low?

Tball 03-16-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight1999 (Post 3511075)

I know I'm new here, so just as an information aside, I've been building car audio systems for about 20 years or so. I owned my own car audio shop as well... My day job though Electrician, a Licensed Telecommunications, Sound and Data Infrastructure Engineer/Designer contractor.

Having said that,

1. Shallow subs sound great in the right box
2. You have more mounting options (in the back up against the side like the sub, you can have one custom mounted in a custom box in the center console, or a custom box built into the sound bar, or up under the dash.) Each of those installs just requires time and money and the stranger the request the more money it will cost to build the box and mount it.
3. The power requirements vary with each sub.
4. If you have the right power and the system is designed correctly I could make your system loud enough that you will need ear plugs...
5. Boxes can be made from fiberglass, MDF or a combo of both.

The biggest thing and the questions that I don't think anyone has asked you are:
1. What are your goals for the system?
2. What type of music do you normally listen to?
3. How do you like to listen to it? (Everyones ears are different and therefore everyones taste in sound is different. So how do you like to hear it, do you like the treble high or low, mids high or low?

I am going to go ahead and use the 10" sub that I have for now. It already has a box and amp so I will see how it sounds and what not.

I am currently working in installing it and will hopefully be done with it by tomorrow.

I listen to a lot of rock but have just about everything on my iPod. I like the treble a little high, mids slightly lower.

If I don't like what I have now I will switch out the sub and maybe the amp till I find the right sound in an wanting. I want the ability to have the bass hit hard but unusually will have it at a reasonable level

Thanks everyone!

lolpetewtf 03-17-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tball (Post 3484970)
What watt amp do you have it hooked up to? I'm looking at a 12" pioneer sub

1100 peak, dunno RMS. Amp is mounted under the driver seat.


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