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Blue Rubicon 03-04-2013 03:24 PM

Lift
 
I was trying to figure out what would be a good lift sizes for my 2013 Unlimited Rubicon. For now I am going to keep stock rims and tires.


What are prices like for each lift?

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Thanks guys.

kbwwolf 03-05-2013 12:40 PM

It really depends on how you plan on using your Jeep, and what you think looks good.

Some basics:

You can get a leveling kit or budget boost (BB) for cheap. TeraFlex makes a $130 leveling kit that'll raise your front 2" and your rear 1", eliminating your Jeep's factory rake. They also make a Performance Leveling Kit that does the same thing, but with new springs (rather than pucks), which can handle a bit more weight.

Next up are the 2.5" lifts. You can get them with shock extensions or with new shocks. Good ones are TeraFlex, Rock Krawler, OME, AEV and Metalcloak (don't think their 2.5" version is out yet). For a full kit with shocks and springs, you're looking at roughly $800-$1000+, just for the kit. In some cases, you may need to add a part or two...adjustable control arms to adjust caster; adj trackbars to re-center your axles; an exhaust spacer to keep the exhaust and stock front driveshaft from hitting on 2012 and up models.

After the 2.5" lifts you're getting into $$. For lifts 3"+ you'll need to add driveshafts (eventually), to all of the things I just listed in the 2.5" section. Plus brake line relocation brackets and, in some cases, high steer kits.

The advantage of a true lift (one w/ springs and shocks) is that it can handle the rigors of off-roading far better than your stock setup; it'll give you more clearance and articulation; it'll handle the weight of aftermarket bumpers, skids, winch, etc; often, it'll improve handling on-road, eliminating the body roll and squishy feeling you get with the stock springs.

IMO, there's really no need to go beyond a 2.5" lift unless you plan on crawling big rocks, and need the clearance. The reward-to-cost ratio starts to diminish quickly. A 2.5" lift will let you clear 35" tires (which have their own extra expenses, as compared to 33" tires), and even 37s with some trimming and flat fenders.

One thing: the lift is one place you don't wanna go cheap. Buy a good one so your Jeep doesn't end up spending half it's time in the shop, bleeding your wallet.

kbwwolf 03-05-2013 12:47 PM

Here's what other peeps have done, lift-wise. Be aware, most everyone will tell you his or her lift is awesome, even if it's junk. That's why it's important to educate yourself on the ins and outs of lifting a Jeep, and the advantages and shortcomings of individual lifts.

Or you can just slap a cheapie on that bad boy and hope you don't have any problems for a little while.

Start at the back of the thread for the most recent lifts: JK Lift Reviews

Some other helpful threads: Lifting in steps.
List of tools for working on your Jeep

Blue Rubicon 03-05-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 3460463)
It really depends on how you plan on using your Jeep, and what you think looks good.

Some basics:

You can get a leveling kit or budget boost (BB) for cheap. TeraFlex makes a $130 leveling kit that'll raise your front 2" and your rear 1", eliminating your Jeep's factory rake. They also make a Performance Leveling Kit that does the same thing, but with new springs (rather than pucks), which can handle a bit more weight.

Next up are the 2.5" lifts. You can get them with shock extensions or with new shocks. Good ones are TeraFlex, Rock Krawler, OME, AEV and Metalcloak (don't think their 2.5" version is out yet). For a full kit with shocks and springs, you're looking at roughly $800-$1000+, just for the kit. In some cases, you may need to add a part or two...adjustable control arms to adjust caster; adj trackbars to re-center your axles; an exhaust spacer to keep the exhaust and stock front driveshaft from hitting on 2012 and up models.

After the 2.5" lifts you're getting into $$. For lifts 3"+ you'll need to add driveshafts (eventually), to all of the things I just listed in the 2.5" section. Plus brake line relocation brackets and, in some cases, high steer kits.

The advantage of a true lift (one w/ springs and shocks) is that it can handle the rigors of off-roading far better than your stock setup; it'll give you more clearance and articulation; it'll handle the weight of aftermarket bumpers, skids, winch, etc; often, it'll improve handling on-road, eliminating the body roll and squishy feeling you get with the stock springs.

IMO, there's really no need to go beyond a 2.5" lift unless you plan on crawling big rocks, and need the clearance. The reward-to-cost ratio starts to diminish quickly. A 2.5" lift will let you clear 35" tires (which have their own extra expenses, as compared to 33" tires), and even 37s with some trimming and flat fenders.

One thing: the lift is one place you don't wanna go cheap. Buy a good one so your Jeep doesn't end up spending half it's time in the shop, bleeding your wallet.

Thanks for taking the time out to write all that. I am most likely going with a 2 or 2 1/2 inch lift. When I parked beside the Unlimited Saharah it was set a little lower. Is the Unlimited Rubicon a little higher?

Blue Rubicon 03-05-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 3460494)
Here's what other peeps have done, lift-wise. Be aware, most everyone will tell you his or her lift is awesome, even if it's junk. That's why it's important to educate yourself on the ins and outs of lifting a Jeep, and the advantages and shortcomings of individual lifts.

Or you can just slap a cheapie on that bad boy and hope you don't have any problems for a little while.

Start at the back of the thread for the most recent lifts: JK Lift Reviews

Some other helpful threads: Lifting in steps.
List of tools for working on your Jeep

Thank you for the information. I don't plan on going cheap, most likely taking it into the dealership so that i do not void any Warranty.

Blue Rubicon 04-16-2013 05:57 PM

So I think after researching I am going to be doing a 3" lift with 35" tires.

Blue Rubicon 10-07-2013 12:11 PM

I am looking at doing this through the dealership:
2 inch Stage 2 Mopar with Fox shocks ($1,999.00 # P5156116)
Track bar and steering stabilizer ($91.75 #P5155512).
Wheel aliment: $109.95
Labor an hour ($55)
Sales tax (6%)
Shop fee ($30)

They want to charge me for 12 hours for the install and Mopar web site says 6.5 and I called there parts department and they stated 6 as well. What do you think a good all-around price to pay for the lift is? Does anyone have any clue why they have are trying to charge for 12 hours?
The only reason I am doing this through the dealership is to keep warrant on my vehicle.
2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
There total price they have come up with is $2,900.

dawhitesJKU 10-07-2013 12:50 PM

You'll still keep the warranty if you install it yourself or at some other location. You can keep the cost less if you don't go mopar. they are ridiculously overpriced and you don't need most of the components.

Here's a write up of my lift. It doesn't have to be the same manufacturer...i'm just using it as reference. Less components than the mopar lift, more money saved and still a great dual purpose rig.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/rub...ew-254067.html

btw, $500 for install/alignment for all the parts listed.

Blue Rubicon 10-07-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawhitesJKU (Post 5163385)
You'll still keep the warranty if you install it yourself or at some other location. You can keep the cost less if you don't go mopar. they are ridiculously overpriced and you don't need most of the components. Here's a write up of my lift. It doesn't have to be the same manufacturer...i'm just using it as reference. Less components than the mopar lift, more money saved and still a great dual purpose rig. http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/rub...ew-254067.html btw, $500 for install/alignment for all the parts listed.


I guess what I was trying to say is that the parts and labor on the vehicle will be warrantied. The lift is a bit expensive but I have heard good things about mopar.

Your jeep looks good, nice post and information. How much did you pay for everything?

Thank you

dawhitesJKU 10-07-2013 04:12 PM

your jeep will be warrantied. the parts will be warrantied by the manufacturer. mopar is a combination of teraflex and fox. its pretty good but overpriced. you could do a teraflex kit for much less.

i paid about 1k for the lift kit, jks disco's, teraflex exhaust spacer, and aev geometry brackets. total was 1500 for parts/install/alignment otd.

and thanks for the kind words.


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