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yjwrangler 11-01-2008 07:50 PM

college help!!!
 
i know alot of the members on wf are college graduates and college students! i can't help but feel like i am getting dumber the older i get. i went through high school on the assumption i was going to make it big in a trade and marry about 2 years after to a college grad! well plans almost worked out...but they all seemed to fall apart a year ago, first i desided to ditch the trade and go back to school then not long after the whole marriage thing didn't work out. all through high school i did the bare minimum to get by. well now i have to pic up the slack. i took math classes through the summer to catch up to college math, i am currently( well was) working on an associates in applied science, mechanical engineering. i want to get into product design and development. but at the beginning of my first semester this fall i had medical complications that forced me to withdraw. so i am planning on attending again in the spring. i am not looking for sympathy, but for guidance as alot of you are wiser and a little bit older (:D). i just feel like i am... getting dumber :blunt:

jupiterboy 11-01-2008 08:01 PM

I don't know your age, but I'm getting older as well. There's the biological element. Clearly we have an advantage in learning before age 30 or so. It sounds like you are doing the right thing.

I used to work in college textbook publishing during the assent of Greg Mankiw. Usually there are a few top schools in any field. If you can't relocate or afford that pedigree, whatever school or degree is going to be fine. Remember, we are in the information age. It is all out there and easy to get you hands on. I picked up a degree out of high shool but fewer than 10% of the grads at that time ended up working in the area their degree was in. I think you can learn and master about anything on your own, and bank that cash for a venture. That's a bold move, but one possible approach.

Every hear of Tadao Ando? One of the worlds most decorated architects. Self trained. Used to be a boxer.

yjwrangler 11-01-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jupiterboy (Post 278274)
I don't know your age, but I'm getting older as well. There's the biological element. Clearly we have an advantage in learning before age 30 or so. It sounds like you are doing the right thing.

I used to work in college textbook publishing during the assent of Greg Mankiw. Usually there are a few top schools in any field. If you can't relocate or afford that pedigree, whatever school or degree is going to be fine. Remember, we are in the information age. It is all out there and easy to get you hands on. I picked up a degree out of high shool but fewer than 10% of the grads at that time ended up working in the area their degree was in. I think you can learn and master about anything on your own, and bank that cash for a venture. That's a bold move, but one possible approach.

Every hear of Tadao Ando? One of the worlds most decorated architects. Self trained. Used to be a boxer.

sorry i didn't mention my age, i am 20 and turning 21 in under 4 months. i am currently enrolled at a community college, virginia western CC. but Virginia Tech is about 30 minutes from me so if i wanted to continue my education i could try to make it in, from what i understand there engineering program is very competitive and hard to get into!

jupiterboy 11-01-2008 08:11 PM

Science is the real deal. If you are going to pay up, I don't think you can do better. You are still young and you brain is as well. You can pack it full in the next 10 years and then enjoy the perspective and judgment that age bring. We really need engineers right now. I've helped several inventor types break into the market and make a business. Working for yourself, eventually, is a great way to go. No cap on what you can make. No one to blame but yourself. Good luck.

jpdocdave 11-01-2008 08:13 PM

suck it up wussy:D.

community colleges are a great thing, get your core classes out of the way. i know in my state all comunity college work or degrees transfer to all the state schools, and comunity colleges are affordable. at the end of the day, most people don't care where your degree came from, just that you have one. as long as you didn't print it yourself from online school:)

if someone would've put it to me this way i would've stayed in college: its called paying your dues. you need to get the degree, whether you think its helping you or not.

yjwrangler 11-01-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jpdocdave (Post 278277)
suck it up wussy:D.

community colleges are a great thing, get your core classes out of the way. i know in my state all comunity college work or degrees transfer to all the state schools, and comunity colleges are affordable. at the end of the day, most people don't care where your degree came from, just that you have one. as long as you didn't print it yourself from online school:)

if someone would've put it to me this way i would've stayed in college: its called paying your dues. you need to get the degree, whether you think its helping you or not.

well as it would turn out all my classes for my first semester were all engineering classes. i just am scared to death of math...it scared me in high school and it scares me now, only difference is now i wanna learn it:D

tiny terror 11-01-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yjwrangler (Post 278279)
well as it would turn out all my classes for my first semester were all engineering classes. i just am scared to death of math...it scared me in high school and it scares me now, only difference is now i wanna learn it:D


Scared of math? I'm thinking English is a problem. :D


I was terrified of Chemistry in high school. And rightly so, I bombed it big time. When I took it in college I struggled, until I had something to apply it to so it was more tangible. Developing glazes gave me the ability to grasp the concepts. You'll find a way to get math.

No worries... you're not getting less intelligent, you're getting frustrated by the fact your plans haven't seemed to come to fruition. Just realize, plans are just that, plans. Roll with it and shift your path when the need comes. You'd never stick to a path wheeling if you found your rig not ready for it or conditions changed. You'd try a new line and continue forward.

yjwrangler 11-01-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 278282)
Scared of math? I'm thinking English is a problem. :D


I was terrified of Chemistry in high school. And rightly so, I bombed it big time. When I took it in college I struggled, until I had something to apply it to so it was more tangible. Developing glazes gave me the ability to grasp the concepts. You'll find a way to get math.

No worries... you're not getting less intelligent, you're getting frustrated by the fact your plans haven't seemed to come to fruition. Just realize, plans are just that, plans. Roll with it and shift your path when the need comes. You'd never stick to a path wheeling if you found your rig not ready for it or conditions changed. You'd try a new line and continue forward.

whats wrong with my english, that was and still is my best subject:banghead::banghead:, and it does make more sense to me now that i have an application for the math and i don't just think it is pointless!

tiny terror 11-01-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yjwrangler (Post 278284)
What's wrong with my English? That was and still is my best subject:banghead::banghead:, and it does make more sense to me now that I have an application for the math and I don't just think it is pointless!

Really??? :D



Sorry. Couldn't help myself. You'll do fine; just keep climbing, kiddo.

jupiterboy 11-01-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by yjwrangler (Post 278275)
from what i understand there engineering program is very competitive and hard to get into!

their

jpdocdave 11-01-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by yjwrangler (Post 278279)
well as it would turn out all my classes for my first semester were all engineering classes. i am just scared to death of math...it scared me in high school and it scares me now, only difference is now i wanna learn it:D


this is fun:D

stay in school

tiny terror 11-01-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jupiterboy (Post 278287)
their

<snicker>

yjwrangler 11-01-2008 08:46 PM

well, i guess all this speed typing has made me lazy! That's my excuse and i am sticking to it.

tiny terror 11-01-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by yjwrangler (Post 278290)
well, i guess all this speed typing has made me lazy! That's my excuse and i am sticking to it.


Oh hell, I type pretty damned fast (comes from typing so much the letters are worn of my keyboard). Capitalize I or I will have to come over there and show you where the shift key is.

txjustin 11-01-2008 08:51 PM

Suck it up...it took me 7 years to get my BBA in Finance and am going back, while working full time, to get my MBA. It sucks, and it is hard, but in these days and times with no degree or no real skill...your screwed.

yjwrangler 11-01-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 278291)
Oh hell, I type pretty damned fast (comes from typing so much the letters are worn of my keyboard). Capitalize I or I will have to come over there and show you where the shift key is.

ohh will you.. i think that i can't capitalize the letter i. So while i sit here typing... :D

yjwrangler 11-01-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by txjustin (Post 278292)
Suck it up...it took me 7 years to get my BBA in Finance and am going back, while working full time, to get my MBA. It sucks, and it is hard, but in these days and times with no degree or no real skill...your screwed.

why in the hell did it take you so long and why are you going back?

orange05tj 11-01-2008 09:04 PM

I quit school right after i made it to the big doors an i aint never thought about going back. it wernt fun.

yjwrangler 11-01-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by orange05tj (Post 278297)
I quit school right after i made it to the big doors an i aint never thought about going back. it wernt fun.

really it [I]wernt[I]:rofl::rofl:

RatherBNarizona 11-01-2008 09:26 PM

well if it helps any, I am a freshman and the University of Arizona.
I realized there are a lot of smarter kids than I when I hit college... and theres plenty of stupid people too.
Don't worry about other people. I have people in my classes that are 50 years old. In my math class I have 60 year old lady, no joke. I took math in summer school, and it is difficult now because I didn't try that hard in HS, even though I was in AP classes. If it means staying up all night studying, do it. Maybe get a tutor? Don't give up on yourself, have confidence!

4Jeepn 11-01-2008 09:49 PM

1st one does not really feel that dumb or old until you walk out of the grocery store and wonder where in the hell you parked the car.. this was less of an issue when I had the Jeep, now with the "everyone has one" accord. I get confused....

College Degree: Working hard for 4 years to master a set of skills and gain understanding of ideas, concepts of a career path, so that you can get a paper that says you did this, only to find out that its not what you want to do, and you work in a different field where you don't even need the degree at all, and spend the next 10 years paying off your student loans. Thus, if the college thing should not work out, go into sales and make a ton of money.

richp 11-01-2008 10:49 PM

Both my kids are in college, one went to a CC and got a AA in criminal justice, then he interned with a county, the politics and way justice were handled made him sick. He's now back in a 4 year state college getting a degree in biology and environmental science, he gets a full grant as long as he maintains a 3.0 or above. There are full grants from the feds and most states for science degrees for the asking.
Daughter is going for a teaching degree, same thing, grants are available, both will finish with no debt. You just have to look.

Unlimited 11-01-2008 11:26 PM

Took me 6 years to get an AA in Business Information Systems because I couldn't decide on a major. I spent the next 22 years working in the field, the last 15 as a consultant. I thought I had learned enough from school and that "Street Smarts" were worth a lot more, so I never thought twice about not getting my bachelor's degree. Two and a half years ago I gave up consulting and went to work for the County. My plan is to work for the County for the next 15 years and then retire. My goal is to make it as far up in the organazation as I can before I retire. One thing I found was there are doors that will not open without a Bachelor's degree.

20 monthat ago I went back to school. My life (if you can call it a life) has been consumed with homework and research since I went back. Now I'm looking at six weeks left 'till I'm done! I can't begin to tell how good it feels. But it also feels great to know that I've done it. It was hard but it really felt good to be in school learning. And it wasn't just learning different subjects, it was more about learning how to learn and be a critical thinker.

The best advice I can give you is to do it now.... stick it out and get it done before you have other major responsibilities. I manage a group at work that is implementing a major system in 15 months, it causes a lot of late nights and much stress. At home, I have three sons that I'm putting through college and a pretty big mortgage. To top it off, my wife just finished her Bachelor's degree in Nursing. All in all, it's been pretty stressful for the last 20 months. But I'd do it again in a heartbeat, infact, I'm starting a Master's in Public Administration in January of 2010.

So, suck it up, do it now. Get your general ed stuff out of the way at community college and then transfer to aa university. I can honestly say that I do not know anyone who regretted getting their Bachelor's degree. Good Luck!

tarheel 11-02-2008 12:25 AM

Time is on your side. At your age you can make decisions with not much consequence. As you get older and more responsibilities come your way, decisions will get tougher. Put you time constaints away and worry about doing what you attempt as well as you can do it. I started out in accounting and was well on my way to finishing. Along the way I got married, took time off and supported my wife while she switched back into pharmacy school. I was out for 2 1/2 years working 2-3 jobs at a time to cover the bills. I started taking 2 classes at a time for the last 18 months until she was licensed and working. I just couldn't give up. I then went back full time, changed my major to pharmacy also, and finished in another 3 years at the age of 28. I took 2 semesters and 2 summer sessions of chemistry, medchem, physics, and biology to be able to switch my major. It seemed impossible at the time but in the end it was no harder than any other goal I have attempted. The point here is buckle down and do what you set your mind to while you are fairly free to be flexible. Oh and quit thinking about the whole thing at one time. Set your overall goal and then set lots of steps to reach that goal. It is so much easier to reach the end when you can focus on what is directly in front of you and attack it head on. Now JUST DO IT:)

nvr-enough 11-02-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 278291)
Oh hell, I type pretty damned fast (comes from typing so much the letters are worn of my keyboard). Capitalize I or I will have to come over there and show you where the shift key is.

the shift key is completely over-rated:D

yjwrangler 11-02-2008 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nvr-enough (Post 278342)
the shift key is completely over-rated:D

i couldn't agree, more!!!!

tiny terror 11-02-2008 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nvr-enough (Post 278342)
the shift key is completely over-rated:D

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Originally Posted by yjwrangler (Post 278374)
i couldn't agree, more!!!!


Tell that to your English professor.

yjwrangler 11-02-2008 09:14 AM

this thread worked great..i needed some good motivational chit chat. Thanks wf.

well unfortunately tiny, my high school charm probably won't work on my professors. i used to sweet talk all my high school teachers, all female.

txjustin 11-02-2008 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by yjwrangler (Post 278295)
why in the hell did it take you so long and why are you going back?

Because I have worked full time since I was 16, I had someone to take care of, and because I changed my major mid way. I am going back because I will get about a 15k/year raise with an MBA. Just as someone above said, many doors will not open without some kind of degree. The main point of a degree is to prove to the work force that you can commit to something and sacrifice to achieve it, unless you have a technical degree(ie...engineering, computer science, math).

yjwrangler 11-02-2008 09:44 AM

why is that any different, what are some of the classes you take for your degree?


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