Help me in my quest to find the lightest 17x8" wheel.
If you know the weight of your non-beadlocker 17x8" wheel (without a tire mounted) suitable for a JK please post it here.
I'm in the market for a very good set of 17x8" alloy wheels. Everything else being equal, wheel weight will be the deciding factor.
1. Why a 17x8" wheel? I have new OEM tires laying around that I'd like to use. Wheeling conditions in my neck of the woods don't really warrant going with a larger/wider tire size, in my opinion. I also like the look of pizza cutters.
2. Why the fixation on the lightest wheel? As I understand it, 10 pounds of unsprung wheel weight is equal to 100 pounds of sprung cargo weight. So with everything else being equal, wheel weight will be the discriminator.
3. Is wheel weight the only factor? No. The wheel needs to have a lifetime warranty on structural defects, at least a 2000 lb load rating, be cast using a low pressure or vacuum process, and meet or exceed SAE J2530 or JWL-T. Many or most wheels out there meet these specs. USA made is a plus. Styling is the least consideration.
4. If low wheel weight is such a big deal why don't you go with a forged wheel? There aren't a lot of forged wheel makers that make a wheel fitting OEM JK tires. Also, what I'm seeing with the forged wheels is that you tend to get similar wheel weights to cast albeit stronger wheels. Lastly, while I'm willing to pay more for a light wheel I need do take cost/benefit into consideration.
5. What have you found out so far? For some reason, wheel weight info is not commonly available. Contacting a wheel maker for their weights is an exercise in frustration. The OEM wheel weighs about 27 pounds according to a reseller. Jeep customer support doesn't know anything about the specifics of their wheels. The heavier aftermarket wheels come in at about 31 pounds. The lighter ones come in at about 27 pounds. Black Rock shows one at 23 pounds but it's probably for a smaller wheel. I'm checking with them for confirmation. Wheelpros says their American Racing AR321 Fuel - 17x8 wheel comes in at 20 pounds. I received conflicting information from them so I'm skeptical.
6. Which resellers have you worked with so far? About a dozen including the ones here on wranglerforum. Thumbs up to morris4x4center.com. Resellers don't have this kind of information and they operate at such thin profit margins that they don't have a lot of time to do the research.
7. What wheel brands have you looked at so far? Many of these brands are made by the same company. In addition to these, CARDiD.com gave me links to about a dozen "pretty boy" brands.
Rugged Ridge - No wheels in 17 x 8"
Mickey Thompson - No wheels in 17 x 8"
Dick Cepek - No wheels in 17 x 8"
Mamba Offroad Alloys
Method Race Wheels - No wheels in 17 x 8"
8. If you are interested in using OEM sized (255/75R17) tires have you considered 7.5" and 8.5" wide wheels? Yes, but aftermarket 7.5" wheels are not as common as 8" wide wheels. Going with a 8.5" is a last resort since it would presumably be a heavier wheel.
I checked and most 17" wheels are around 24lbs-31Lbs. How ever Pro-Comp does make a 22Lbs Wheel, but its 17x9
Pro Comp 7069 17" X 9" Cast Blast 5 X 5" Bolt Pattern PCW-70697973
Pro Comp Series 1069 Polished 17" X 9" PCW-10697973
As I understand it, my OEM sized tires can't be run on 17x9" wheel. 8.5" wide is the max I'm told.
Would you post some links & weights for any 17x8" sub-26 pounders?
Wheel Pros, LLC, the owners of the Moto Metal, KMC, ATX Series, XD Series and American Racing brand wheels report their lightest 17x8" Wrangler JK OEM tire compatible wheels are as follows:
American Racing AR321 FUEL @ 20 lbs (5.48" backspace/ +25mm offset).
American Racing AR62 OUTLAW II @ 23 lbs (4.5" backspace/ +0mm offset).
Both wheels are low pressure cast, carry a life time structural warranty and are SAE J2530 certified.
The A321 Fuel has a 2,200lb load rating and has a one year finish warranty on paint, and two years on chrome.
The Outlaw II has a 3,200lb load rating and a one year finish warranty.
I'm waiting to hear back from Black Rock on their 909B785345 Series 909 Type D and hoping Morris4x4Center will provide some Pro Comp sub-26 pounders. In the meantime, that Outlaw II is looking pretty good.
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