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sonofmilkman2 03-20-2013 01:13 PM

Side window (soft top) gap at door
 
Anyone have any ideas why this is happening and/or what I can do to correct it?

http://s22.postimage.org/eg4kaz6f5/gap.jpg

Jeepin117 03-20-2013 01:17 PM

I have that problem also, most notably in the colder months. You really have to pull it around and get it seated behind the door to keep it from slipping out. In the warmer weather when the top is more pliable it's easier to stretch it a little and get it seated securely behind the door. Anyone else have a better suggestion?

CorvusCorax 03-20-2013 01:17 PM

The leading edge of the side window has to be folded into a channel in the door surround.

daggo66 03-20-2013 01:24 PM

Uh, it doesnt go behind the door. The edge fits inside the channel on the plastic door surround. Take the window completely off. Start the zipper about 2" only. Then the front edge should fold back like the letter U with the flat bottom of the U facing forward. Tuck the edge in the channel of the door surround. Tuck the bottom edge of the window (plastic piece) into the body channel. Then finish zipping the window. Go back and make sure the front edge is fully tucked.

sonofmilkman2 03-20-2013 01:30 PM

It appears to be seated properly and aligned everywhere else. It's almost like the leading edge is bent out. You can press it in with your finger, but it pops right back out.

MTH 03-20-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofmilkman2 (Post 3529185)
It appears to be seated properly and aligned everywhere else. It's almost like the leading edge is bent out. You can press it in with your finger, but it pops right back out.

I can't see your pic, but you should only zip the zipper about 4" or so before tucking in the edging into the channel. It sounds like you've already got it fully zipped, which will make it very hard to tuck in properly.

Here's my write-up from another thread . . .

The flat part with plastic embedded in the fabric that you're currently pinching between the door and the door surround isn't actually meant to be pinched there, and it won't be secure in that position.

Rather, the fabric on that portion of the window is meant to wrap around the front portion of the door surround, with the embedded plastic portion sliding into the very narrow channel . . . .

The proper steps:

(1) With top otherwise up and done, hang a window using the Velcro.

(2) Zip the zipper NO MORE than 6". Just get it started.

(3) Fold the part that you're currently seeing flap in the breeze in toward the plastic door surround behind it, tucking the hard plastic that's embedded in the window fabric into the channel in the door surround. It folds over in a "u" shape. This is the step you're presently missing.

(4) Zip the zipper the rest of the way.

(5) Stretch and leverage the plastic strip on the bottom of the window into the channel on the jeep's body. You may need to go back to step 3 and retuck a bit to make sure it's still in tight after doing this.

(6) Fix the Velcro and admire handiwork.

The window will be very tight. Nothing flaps in the breeze.

In essence, the window is secured on the top and rear by the zipper, and on the bottom and front by attached/embedded plastic that's folded into a channel on the jeep/door surround. You're missing the step to secure the front.

daggo66 03-20-2013 01:52 PM

yeah, or you can read what I just wrote.

sonofmilkman2 03-20-2013 01:56 PM

Thanks, guys. I didn't notice the channel until just now. Slid it forward a touch, pushed it in and now it's perfect. Appreciate your help.

daggo66 03-20-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofmilkman2 (Post 3529185)
It appears to be seated properly and aligned everywhere else. It's almost like the leading edge is bent out. You can press it in with your finger, but it pops right back out.

That edge has to go in first. You need to completely remove the window to correct it. Trust me, this is user error.

sonofmilkman2 03-20-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 3529312)
That edge has to go in first. You need to completely remove the window to correct it. Trust me, this is user error.

I'll take ownership of that. Just glad to have it figured out.

daggo66 03-20-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofmilkman2 (Post 3529320)
I'll take ownership of that. Just glad to have it figured out.

No problem. There's a good reason why MTH has the detailed write up, feel free to ask him anytime! :rofl: BTW, what happened to you is known as an ID-ten-T error. :D

sonofmilkman2 03-20-2013 02:05 PM

It's not my first, and surely won't be my last!

MTH 03-20-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 3529351)
No problem. There's a good reason why MTH has the detailed write up, feel free to ask him anytime! :rofl: BTW, what happened to you is known as an ID-ten-T error. :D

There's a small--miniscule, really--chance that I may have asked the exact same question 497 years ago when I first joined WF.

And there's an equally small chance that I may have spent considerable time in my thread insisting I was doing it correctly, despite the reality that, in fact, I was not. And it's also possible Daggo gave me the right answer. All very possible.

But please understand that this was back in the old days, when the forum was conducted entirely in papyrus scrolls . . .

daggo66 03-20-2013 02:38 PM

It really is something thats difficult to explain yet incredibly easy to show.

drshaws 03-20-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 3529158)
Uh, it doesnt go behind the door. The edge fits inside the channel on the plastic door surround. Take the window completely off. Start the zipper about 2" only. Then the front edge should fold back like the letter U with the flat bottom of the U facing forward. Tuck the edge in the channel of the door surround. Tuck the bottom edge of the window (plastic piece) into the body channel. Then finish zipping the window. Go back and make sure the front edge is fully tucked.

Unlike the NFL, WF will never take the tuck rule out of its rule books.

Finally got a Jeep 03-20-2013 03:15 PM

Full disclosure. I put my soft top on for the first time this weekend and have the same problem. I had planned on asking as well. Boy do I feel dumb. Thanks, you guys (and gals) are great.

Finally got a Jeep 03-20-2013 05:51 PM

Just got home and made the change. Wow, that's a lot better than what I had.

Thanks again!

kramer2k 03-20-2013 07:39 PM

I, too, fell victim to the tuck problem when I first had my Jeep. A WF post corrected my problem too.

daggo66 03-20-2013 10:33 PM

I can honestly say that I never had this problem. It was something that I quickly figured out. However, I had an incredibly difficult time figuring out the "W" fold. Somehow I kept ending up with a "M" and couldn't figure for the life of my why the top wouldn't clear the roll bar.

MTH 03-20-2013 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 3531537)
I can honestly say that I never had this problem. It was something that I quickly figured out. However, I had an incredibly difficult time figuring out the "W" fold. Somehow I kept ending up with a "M" and couldn't figure for the life of my why the top wouldn't clear the roll bar.

I never had a problem folding back the sunrider, but those rear windows had me totally, utterly bolloxed.

daggo66 03-20-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTH (Post 3531572)
I never had a problem folding back the sunrider, but those rear windows had me totally, utterly bolloxed.

As I recall someone was able to draw a picture of sorts which finally made the light bulb turn on for you. It would really help others if you could dig that up somehow.

Jared66 03-20-2013 11:02 PM

Well I sure feel dumb lol. Makes sense now

MTH 03-21-2013 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 3531624)

As I recall someone was able to draw a picture of sorts which finally made the light bulb turn on for you. It would really help others if you could dig that up somehow.

Yep.

I was able to use it once or twice, but then the guy who posted it took it off his photobucket and moved on from forum-hood.

I should try to recreate it. It was an overhead view showing the "u" shape of the window as it tucks into the surround. I saw that, walked outside, and *ding*--that was it.

unusedusername 03-21-2013 12:43 AM

Huh... So that's why it wouldn't stay closed...

Amwajtommy 03-21-2013 01:23 AM

Mine was that way until i did the unthinkable....read the directions...

track_micha 07-30-2013 10:41 PM

BIG HELP thank you
 
I kept looking at the window and could not figure out why it did not fit right until I read this thread. Thank you. Your directions were perfect. I love this forum! All kinds of help and others with the same issues so I don't feel too stupid!! Haha thank you again

Brewbek 07-30-2013 11:02 PM

yep, that's exactly what I would do. :popcorn:

dblcrona 12-26-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 3529158)
Uh, it doesnt go behind the door. The edge fits inside the channel on the plastic door surround. Take the window completely off. Start the zipper about 2" only. Then the front edge should fold back like the letter U with the flat bottom of the U facing forward. Tuck the edge in the channel of the door surround. Tuck the bottom edge of the window (plastic piece) into the body channel. Then finish zipping the window. Go back and make sure the front edge is fully tucked.

I knew mine wasn't in right. I just bought a 2013 JKU and couldn't believe this was how the leading edge of the side windows was supposed to work. After some searching I found this discussion and just ran out I. The snow to try it. That's much better. Now it won't pop out and flap around in the wind and force me to pull over. Thanks a lot!

Ken

Phoenix918 05-01-2014 12:59 PM

Had the same problem here on my JKU 2013 and was able to correct the problem (which I caused myself...) very quickly and easily. Thanks very much MTH and Dago66!


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