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Mzero3 03-20-2013 01:34 PM

4x4 4banger waisting gas
 
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I just bought my dream jeep 1999 Tj and have been really excited for the past week iv had it specially since I live by hills and great land :) but when I got it it needed oil change and coolant in radiator in which I did but now i don't know if its the gauge acting up or it is really waisting gas ??? What should I do? Pls help

XTRyan 03-20-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mzero3 (Post 3529490)
I just bought my dream jeep 1999 Tj and have been really excited for the past week iv had it specially since I live by hills and great land :) but when I got it it needed oil change and coolant in radiator in which I did but now i don't know if its the gauge acting up or it is really waisting gas ??? What should I do? Pls help

Mzero3,

First off, congrats on the new Jeep! Looks pretty clean, it's always a good idea to change the fluid right after buying a used vehicle. Even when buying from a dealer, I still change the oil and other fluids right after I buy something.

Whe you say it's, "wasting gas", what do you mean? It's not getting good mileage, or you are leaking gas? The bigger tires will cause your speedometer to be off by a few mph making your odometer read less smiles than you actually traveled. So if you did the miles driven divided by gallons used, your calculations will be wrong.

Even still, Jeeps don't get the best mileage. The 2.5L engine and what look like 31's will get about 15-18 mpg at the most. The 4 cyl, is no power house and since you have the 5 speed, you have 4.10 gears so it should be running the 31's just fine.

Shoot me a PM if you have any other questions!

-Zach

Mzero3 03-20-2013 04:42 PM

Thanks Zach I appreciate your time and ill keep that in mind , thanks for your help.

Zevman 03-20-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeTerrain (Post 3530024)

Mzero3,

First off, congrats on the new Jeep! Looks pretty clean, it's always a good idea to change the fluid right after buying a used vehicle. Even when buying from a dealer, I still change the oil and other fluids right after I buy something.

Whe you say it's, "wasting gas", what do you mean? It's not getting good mileage, or you are leaking gas? The bigger tires will cause your speedometer to be off by a few mph making your odometer read less smiles than you actually traveled. So if you did the miles driven divided by gallons used, your calculations will be wrong.

Even still, Jeeps don't get the best mileage. The 2.5L engine and what look like 31's will get about 15-18 mpg at the most. The 4 cyl, is no power house and since you have the 5 speed, you have 4.10 gears so it should be running the 31's just fine.

Shoot me a PM if you have any other questions!

-Zach

4.10 gears? I thought the stock 2.5L came with 3.07, I'm a newbie so I could be wrong.

ob269 03-20-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zevman (Post 3530942)

4.10 gears? I thought the stock 2.5L came with 3.07, I'm a newbie so I could be wrong.

Nope, 4 cylinders came with 4.10..

Zevman 03-20-2013 07:49 PM

The SE model?

Zevman 03-20-2013 07:52 PM

I have a 98 SE that I'm building up is why I'm asking. I just put 31s on and a lift in two weeks. Want to run 33s when I can afford to regear and add lockers.

Zevman 03-20-2013 07:55 PM

Ok so the 4.0 had the 3.07, now I get it

Waldo1 03-20-2013 07:58 PM

As far as I know all 4 bangers have 4.10, my 6 cylinder has 3.07, wish I had the 4.10's check the tag on the pumpkin to be sure.

XTRyan 03-21-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zevman (Post 3531039)
I have a 98 SE that I'm building up is why I'm asking. I just put 31s on and a lift in two weeks. Want to run 33s when I can afford to regear and add lockers.

If you have a 4cyl and want to run 33's I would look at a set of 4.56 gears. My YJ had 4.56's and I ran 33's and 31's on it and it was much better with the 33's. The 31's made first gear basically useless. I would start out in second most of the time at red lights. If I used first in traffic, I wasn't even through the intersection before I was shifting into 2nd gear.

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Originally Posted by Waldo1 (Post 3531075)
As far as I know all 4 bangers have 4.10, my 6 cylinder has 3.07, wish I had the 4.10's check the tag on the pumpkin to be sure.

All 2.5L's with the manual trans had the 4.10 gears, while the 4cyl auto's had 3.73 gears. It's always good to check your tag on the pumpkin. It's even better to pull the diff cover and look at the tooth count on the ring gear. and do the math to get the exact number. Since you don't know if someone re-geared it and didn't take the tag off.

-Zach

Zevman 03-21-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeTerrain (Post 3533344)

If you have a 4cyl and want to run 33's I would look at a set of 4.56 gears. My YJ had 4.56's and I ran 33's and 31's on it and it was much better with the 33's. The 31's made first gear basically useless. I would start out in second most of the time at red lights. If I used first in traffic, I wasn't even through the intersection before I was shifting into 2nd gear.

All 2.5L's with the manual trans had the 4.10 gears, while the 4cyl auto's had 3.73 gears. It's always good to check your tag on the pumpkin. It's even better to pull the diff cover and look at the tooth count on the ring gear. and do the math to get the exact number. Since you don't know if someone re-geared it and didn't take the tag off.

-Zach

Thanks for the advice. I want to do the gear change when I add lockers. Or could I add Trutrac lockers now?

XTRyan 03-22-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zevman (Post 3533695)
Thanks for the advice. I want to do the gear change when I add lockers. Or could I add Trutrac lockers now?

Zevman,

I would wait and do it all at once. Especially if you don't plan on doing it yourself. Gears are very complicated to install and require a few specialized tools. So paying someone to do an install basically twice just isn't worth it.

Another thing about the Truetrac is that it doesn't work with tires over 33" tall. So if you plan on running anything bigger than that, I would avoid the Truetrac. Other than that it is a good option for a dual purpose rig.

Here is the locker for the rear Dana 35 and unfortunately, we don't have the front one on our site. The part number from Eaton is 912A585. Give one of our Jeep Experts a call and they can get you both set up in an order.

They are here Monday-Friday from 9AM-6PM EST. If you want to hit them up, their number is 800.988.4605. I'll shoot you over our exclusive discount code for Wrangler Forum members, so you can use it for your next order.

Also you can PM me if you have any other questions!

-Zach

TJspeed 03-22-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zevman (Post 3531057)
Ok so the 4.0 had the 3.07, now I get it

The 4.0 had 3.07, 3.55 and 3.73. 3.07 and 3.73 being the must common.


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