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D.B. 03-21-2013 10:17 PM

CB Brand/Model Suggestions
 
Looking for a CB for club use, of course, but also for general highway and emergency communications. However, I am uncertain what the true difference/benefit is between a full size CB versus a compact unit like the Cobra handheld that most jeepers seem to purchase.

If I was just using it for trail and club use I would go with the compact unit. Currently been looking at the Cobra 29 LX with LCD display. Can the compact units get the distance the full size units can and so on?

MattK 03-21-2013 10:26 PM

Legally you can only run 4 watts so I don't see why they wouldn't get the same range. A full size will have side bands and all that stuff I believe. You can hot rod a full size to increase wattage at your own risk.

jyp 03-21-2013 10:36 PM

Nothing wrong with an all-in-one unit (radio in the mic). It's minimal installation and you can store it away.

That said, i actually like the look of a cb radio so i stayed away from the self contained units. Even so, its better to get a small unit like the uniden 510xl because there's not enough room IMO in the cabin for a big truck unit. If it's legal, you won't see much of a difference between units. Your antenna tuning and wire quality is what's really gonna make a difference.

You can mount it above the rear view mirror or down by the driver's legs. I've also seen it in the glove box but then you don't get the look.

Anyways uniden seems to be a popular model but if you want something really cool, get the 520xl instead of the 510 (it has a PA system) and install a cop speaker under your hood... Haven't used my horn since i got the thing!

chum1600 03-21-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jyp (Post 3536591)
Nothing wrong with an all-in-one unit (radio in the mic). It's minimal installation and you can store it away.

That said, i actually Luke the look of a cb radio so i stayed away from the self contained units. Even so, its better to get a small unit like the uniden 510xl because there's not enough room IMO in the cabin for a big truck unit. If it's legal, you won't see much of a difference between units. Your antenna tuning and wire quality is what's really gonna make a difference.

You can mount it above the rear view mirror or down by the driver's legs. I've also seen it inn the glove box but then you don't get the look.

Anyways uniden seems to be a popular model but if you wasn't something really cool, get the 520xl instead of the 510 (it has a PA system) and install a cop speaker under your hood... Haven't used my horn since i got the thing!

That PA would be trouble for me. I would be yelling "you're a terrible driver!" At every person that cut me off.

D.B. 03-21-2013 10:40 PM

Any thoughts on the uniden 980?

jyp 03-21-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chum1600 (Post 3536610)

That PA would be trouble for me. I would be yelling "you're a terrible driver!" At every person that cut me off.

My most common line: "i would rather WRECK MY JEEP than let you in" (when someone tries to cut in at the end of a long line in traffic)... Surprises the hell out of 'em! Haven't had a single one not back off immediately!

MrSig 03-22-2013 03:17 AM

I have been using the Cobra 75 WX ST for over 4 years now and it works great and very easy to install.
http://www.aaof.us/images/cb.JPG

http://www.aaof.us/images/cba.jpg

Sinclair 03-22-2013 04:28 AM

The Midland 1001LWX deserves a mention here, too. If you don't want the handheld compact type, this is a good option. It's very simple, has the weather bands, and a PA option. It doesn't take up much space on the passenger side of my console, either. And the price was good....bought it in a combo deal with a 4' Firestik antenna.

I chose this one because I didn't want to have to worry about taking my eyes off the road for too long to look at the handheld's display, even though its probably not a problem once you get the hang of it. Good luck with your decision!

MangoTangoJK 03-22-2013 05:45 AM

Any of you cb guys pick up a lot of engine whine in your cb? I took mine out because the engine whine was so freaking obnoxious I hated talking on it. Also, it is extremely difficult for other people to hear you with the top down diving down the highway.

Jag 03-22-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jyp (Post 3536645)
My most common line: "i would rather WRECK MY JEEP than let you in" (when someone tries to cut in at the end of a long line in traffic)... Surprises the hell out of 'em! Haven't had a single one not back off immediately!

Do you have a link to the speaker you're using? I'm looking at that unit :whistling:

Rooster76 03-22-2013 09:12 AM

The cobra 75 seems to be the most common. I have heard that it can have a weak speaker and you may want to add an external speaker one in the roll bar if you go that direction.
This video covers it pretty well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ASM0MDrMvE

Another option that is super portable is the Midland 75-822. It can actually be run off a battery like a walkie talkie. It plugs in by default to the cigarette lighter so you may get a bit of engine noise with it. It also can and should be run with a mounted antenna. With CB's it is all about the size (and quality) of your antenna what kind of range your going to get. For a good antenna I would get the FireStik FireFly. It comes in 3' or 4'. If this tickles your fancy I would check out this post>http://www.jk-forum.com/jk-cb-ham-ra...-822-cb-59754/
http://www.cbradiossale.com/images/Midland%2075822.jpg

I've got the Uniden 520 XL which is a good compact CB with all the features you need for good communication. I think I payed $42 at fry's electronics for it. I mounted it without any drilling on to my footman loop. The cord rest on top of it and you cannot even tell it is there. There is a write up about how I mounted it HERE> Remove Sub Box to Ground and Run Antenna Coax - 2DR 2012
http://rileyid.com/randy/JK/CB/Uniden520Installed.jpg

For a full sized the Cobra 29 seems like a pretty common one.

MTJeeper 03-22-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jyp (Post 3536591)
Nothing wrong with an all-in-one unit (radio in the mic). It's minimal installation and you can store it away.

That said, i actually like the look of a cb radio so i stayed away from the self contained units. Even so, its better to get a small unit like the uniden 510xl because there's not enough room IMO in the cabin for a big truck unit. If it's legal, you won't see much of a difference between units. Your antenna tuning and wire quality is what's really gonna make a difference.

You can mount it above the rear view mirror or down by the driver's legs. I've also seen it in the glove box but then you don't get the look.

Anyways uniden seems to be a popular model but if you want something really cool, get the 520xl instead of the 510 (it has a PA system) and install a cop speaker under your hood... Haven't used my horn since i got the thing!

Could you list the speaker you used and how to install?

jyp 03-22-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MTJeeper (Post 3538176)

Could you list the speaker you used and how to install?

Any 8 ohm speaker will do, preferably the PA type, which is shaped like a bull horn and usually a bit more weather resistant. They're super cheap... Which is good cause they suffer a bit from the salt splashing in the winter up here but they're easily replaced.

I mounted mine in the engine compartment on top of the wheel well. I'll try and take a pic tomorrow. Simply pass the write through the fire wall and to your CB, wherever it is. Mine's on the right of the driver leg area. I found it helpful to remove some front console panels (turn and remove the air vents, then push out the side panel). But anyway you route the wire is fine.

Nothing to it really. The only thing is the speaker came with two exposed wires (i.e. like for home theater connections) and the unit input is a 3.25" plug (i.e. like for an iPod), so i had to cut an earphone speaker jack and splice it to the speaker wires. Other than that it's not much of an install.

I suppose of you had a light bar with 4 or 5 flood lights the speaker would look good in the middle of the light bar... Sort of like on old cop cars. But under the hood works fine.

Slimer968 03-22-2013 09:48 PM

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There are many routes you can go with cb's. If you just wanna talk to your buddies ahead of you on a trail, you can even get a handheld cb and just put it in the consol when not using it.

If you're looking for a cb to leave out all the time and just be able to turn it on at a whim for traffic conditions and so forth, again many options. Radios can be from 20 bucks to 500. Depends on what you want out of it. Like weatherband and side band for the 10 meter radios.

After you get the one you want, location and antennas are another subject. Run the coax in padding if roll bar out to the back and mount. Handhelds have built in antenna. They work well.

I just mounted mine in a 2dr on the loop at top of windshield. A friend has a 4dr and can't mount it there, the loop is used for roof.

kenb1023 03-23-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSig (Post 3537297)
I have been using the Cobra 75 WX ST for over 4 years now and it works great and very easy to install.
http://www.aaof.us/images/cb.JPG

http://www.aaof.us/images/cba.jpg

2 Questions for you.

One: How did you attach the power box behind the pannel. I have trying to figure that out and there just doed not seem to be a logical spot

Two: Where did you tie into 12 VDC for your power?

If you had to pull out any pannels other than the one below the glove box please tell me how they come out so I don't break anything.

Thanks

kenb1023 03-23-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MangoTangoJK (Post 3537542)
Any of you cb guys pick up a lot of engine whine in your cb? I took mine out because the engine whine was so freaking obnoxious I hated talking on it. Also, it is extremely difficult for other people to hear you with the top down diving down the highway.

Did you try adding a ground strap from the Alt to the body or Negitive side of batt? I am told t use a braided strap 1 inch wide 12 to 36 inches in length, no more no less. You can also ad a noise filter on the power line. A small one rated at 5 amps should work fine from what I have read.

Rooster76 03-23-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Slimer968 (Post 3540579)
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I just mounted mine in a 2dr on the loop at top of windshield. A friend has a 4dr and can't mount it there, the loop is used for roof.

I've got a 12 and the way I mounted mine, on the sides, I can still use my hardtop that uses the footman loop.
There is a write up about how I mounted it HERE> Footman Loop CB Mount
http://rileyid.com/randy/JK/CB/Uniden520Installed.jpg

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Originally Posted by MTJeeper (Post 3538176)
Could you list the speaker you used and how to install?

PA SPEAKER HORN
Here is a thread that shows some install options for a PA speaker horn
LINK> PA Speaker Horn Install
This is how I mounted mine. It required drilling 1 hole for a bolt. The wire runs up the side firewall hole on the drive side. This install thread shows how to get to the hole. Is the same idea just on the other side for running power (step 19-22). Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource Affordable Jeep JK Wrangler CB Radio SolutionMidland Model-1001Z
http://rileyid.com/randy/JK/CB/PA_speakerHorn.jpg
The one I got is non amplified, and waterproof for about $20. Its good for pointing out to annoying road bikers there is a huge bike trail they should be using. It also will let you talk to anyone standing outside the Jeep. As far as talking to other cars with there windows up and radios going it isn't going to do the job, with the cbs limited 8 watts of power. If you really want to let the world know how you feel you need to get an amplified one like
THIS($80)> Amplified 20-Watt CB PA Horn | Right Channel Radios
Just be careful because it's illegal in all 50 states (i have heard at least) to use one.

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Originally Posted by MangoTangoJK (Post 3537542)
Any of you cb guys pick up a lot of engine whine in your cb? I took mine out because the engine whine was so freaking obnoxious I hated talking on it. Also, it is extremely difficult for other people to hear you with the top down diving down the highway.

Did you run your red power wire directly to the battery. That would help get rid of that.

Slimer968 03-23-2013 07:13 PM

[QUOTE="Rooster76;3543083"]
I've got a 12 and the way I mounted mine, on the sides, I can still use my hardtop that uses the footman loop.
There is a write up about how I mounted it HERE> Footman Loop CB Mount



I have mine mounted the same way. Maybe my friend thought he couldn't use the same idea and never tried it. Have to look into that. Thx

jyp 04-04-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster76 (Post 3543083)
If you really want to let the world know how you feel you need to get an amplified one like
THIS($80)> Amplified 20-Watt CB PA Horn | Right Channel Radios
Just be careful because it's illegal in all 50 states (i have heard at least) to use one.

You had me at illegal in all 50 states.

I've been wanting something louder for a while. The minutes i saw your post i ordered this (pic). Just got it today. Can't wait to try it out.

flyinion 04-04-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster76 (Post 3538051)
I've got the Uniden 520 XL which is a good compact CB with all the features you need for good communication. I think I payed $42 at fry's electronics for it. I mounted it without any drilling on to my footman loop. The cord rest on top of it and you cannot even tell it is there. There is a write up about how I mounted it HERE> Remove Sub Box to Ground and Run Antenna Coax - 2DR 2012

Oh man that's a nice mounting setup. I think I'm gonna have to try that out. Been looking at the 510XL package that Quadratec has, but going to stop at Fry's tonight on the way home and see what they have. Do you guys just route the power wire out through the firewall to the battery and the ground to (I thought I heard this.....) the grounding spot down by the front doors? I'm eventually, as in way down the road, going to install an SPOD (which means moving the CB later on of course), but it's kinda silly to pay $400 right now for power distribution for one item.

Mistermoose 04-04-2013 07:16 PM

I just bought the pro510xl and I'm using it Sunday got the first time ill let you know how it works...

Rooster76 04-04-2013 07:22 PM

Running the power wire
 
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Originally Posted by flyinion (Post 3595498)
Oh man that's a nice mounting setup. I think I'm gonna have to try that out. Been looking at the 510XL package that Quadratec has, but going to stop at Fry's tonight on the way home and see what they have. Do you guys just route the power wire out through the firewall to the battery and the ground to (I thought I heard this.....) the grounding spot down by the front doors? I'm eventually, as in way down the road, going to install an SPOD (which means moving the CB later on of course), but it's kinda silly to pay $400 right now for power distribution for one item.

Yeah, that's how I did it. I used this write-up.
LINK>Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource Affordable Jeep JK Wrangler CB Radio SolutionMidland Model-1001Z

That panel shown in step 19 is held on by pressure clips. A plastic putty knife is the ideal thing to use to pry it off. It will just pop back into place after you remove it.

I like that the Uniden 520XL has the rf-gain to amplify weak signals.

flyinion 04-04-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster76 (Post 3595553)
Yeah, that's how I did it. I used this write-up.
LINK>Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource Affordable Jeep JK Wrangler CB Radio SolutionMidland Model-1001Z

That panel shown in step 19 is held on by pressure clips. A plastic putty knife is the ideal thing to use to pry it off. It will just pop back into place after you remove it.

I like that the Uniden 520XL has the rf-gain to amplify weak signals.

So quick question, this works on a 2012 with hard top? I looked at my footman loop and it looks like I wouldn't be able to latch it fully if I mount the CB there. It's like my loop is shifted to the right a bit. Is that right?

Flint_Holbrook 04-04-2013 09:29 PM

I ordered the Strike Force mount and bolted it in place connecting the ground wire between the hoop and the windshield. I ran the hot wire and the coax behind the trim pieces. I have yet to run it out to the battery through the foam filled hole.

I am using a Uniden PC 68. I had to fab a mount to connect to the strike force mount to sit the radio forward of the mirror but above it. I installed a mod kit and talk back in the PC 68. I painted the mount tonight and still have to buy an antenna. I am waiting on my Bestop rear bumper to arrive before I mount the antenna. Will take some pictures when I get the radio mounted.

Rooster76 04-04-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion (Post 3596217)
So quick question, this works on a 2012 with hard top? I looked at my footman loop and it looks like I wouldn't be able to latch it fully if I mount the CB there. It's like my loop is shifted to the right a bit. Is that right?

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Originally Posted by Rooster76 (Post 3543083)
I've got a 12 and the way I mounted mine, on the sides, I can still use my hardtop that uses the footman loop.
There is a write up about how I mounted it HERE> Footman Loop CB Mount
http://rileyid.com/randy/JK/CB/Uniden520Installed.jpg

It works with all JK's. The hook closes far enough that it firmly holds the panel down. The foot is completely over the footman loop. Without the clamp there you are able to rotate it a bit more, but that doesn't add any benefit. Play with your latch and I think you'll see what I'm talking about.
http://rileyid.com/randy/JK/CB/unide..._cb_mount1.jpg
This is without the top windshield panel put back on.
http://rileyid.com/randy/JK/CB/JK_fo...adio_mount.jpg

It has also worked with larger full sized CB's like the Cobra 29.

I recommend running the antenna wire up the roll bar. I had extra feet of (18') cable to spare mounting my antenna on the rear tailgate. Remove Sub Box to Ground and Run Antenna Coax - 2DR 2012

Flint_Holbrook 04-04-2013 11:06 PM

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Here is mine. I had to make the bracket offset to clear the sun visor when flipping it down.It still just touches the mounting screw for the radio. I am worried it will have some vibration. I can put a rubber insulator between the strike force mount and my mount and that may help.

ratchettt 04-05-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster76 (Post 3538051)

Another option that is super portable is the Midland 75-822. It can actually be run off a battery like a walkie talkie. It plugs in by default to the cigarette lighter so you may get a bit of engine noise with it. It also can and should be run with a mounted antenna. With CB's it is all about the size (and quality) of your antenna what kind of range your going to get. For a good antenna I would get the FireStik FireFly. It comes in 3' or 4'. If this tickles your fancy I would check out this post>Installation of a Midland 75-822 CB
http://www.cbradiossale.com/images/Midland%2075822.jpg



I run this. Keep in center console and run it out through the detente on the lip of console. External antenna cable is just behind the passenger seat for quick hook-up, and I power with the cig lighter inside console. You'd never know it was there when stowed and disconnected from antenna cable. Performance better than satisfactory with 4 ft firestick.

SilverSport 04-05-2013 02:16 PM

If a CB is mounted to the footman loop, is an 18' cable to short to reach an antenna mount on the spare tire?

flyinion 04-05-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 3598845)
If a CB is mounted to the footman loop, is an 18' cable to short to reach an antenna mount on the spare tire?

Shouldn't be, that's a long cable. Rooster says in his write-up to run it in the rollbar padding to the back. I suppose it would be a lot tighter if you ran it down through the dash to the floor and back due to all the stuff you'd have to route through to get through the dash. Even still it should reach.

Rooster76 04-05-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 3598845)
If a CB is mounted to the footman loop, is an 18' cable to short to reach an antenna mount on the spare tire?

I think you should be able to make it reach. I had about 2.5-3' extra that I made a big loop with under the roll bar cover (2DR). I also pushed some in the tail gate in case I wanted to move the mount spot a bit.

You could do a quick mock-up on the outside of the roll bar with the cable or an extension wire to check. Firestik (antenna company) recommends using 18' so I would really try to make that length work without any extensions.
Quote:

From> Frequently Asked Questions
Q Is the length of the coax cable important?

A We find that it is very important ... especially with high performance top-loaded antennas. Your safest bet is to use 18 feet (5.5 meters) coaxial leads on all of your CB installations.
I remember some unlimited people saying that they had problems getting the cool-tech ultra (licence plate) mount to run to the footman loop. I would defiantly check the length unless someone chimes in a definite answer.


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