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elclipo 03-22-2013 08:14 PM

Which paint to use
 
I have to repaint my cowl because it has sun damage. My question is, what is the best paint to make sure it matches the rest of the Jeep?

The Jeep is black.

Jeep tin man 03-22-2013 09:12 PM

Your Jeep is base coat clear coat, single stage paint WILL NOT match, also gone are the days of "Panel Painting". I suggest that you paint the whole front end and blend under the door openings. These paints also require a special nozzel on the gun which is smaller than the older guns. This paint has to be atomized more than the regular acrylic enamel paints. GOOD LUCK in your endeavor. You may be better off going to a local shop, unless you have some knowledge of the "newer" paints. STEVE

s14sh3r 03-22-2013 09:17 PM

OD in a rattle can FTW

TJ-GTR 03-22-2013 09:31 PM

Panel painting is alive and well. Try paint front PPG and with a little skill it'll match up just fine. Yes, it will need to be a base coat clear coat finish but you can match it up close enough that only a few will be able to notice. Go for it!

krisbman 03-22-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ-GTR (Post 3540224)
Panel painting is alive and well. Try paint front PPG and with a little skill it'll match up just fine. Yes, it will need to be a base coat clear coat finish but you can match it up close enough that only a few will be able to notice. Go for it!

Good call on the PPG, i use it everyday. If your just gonna do the cowl i wouldnt think twice about putting single stage black on it. The concept line from PPG has a great urethane single stage. No reason to base clear it.

s14sh3r 03-22-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ-GTR (Post 3540224)
Panel painting is alive and well. Try paint front PPG and with a little skill it'll match up just fine. Yes, it will need to be a base coat clear coat finish but you can match it up close enough that only a few will be able to notice. Go for it!

A lot depends on the color, right? Mine is Moss Green and the painted parts that never see the sun, like under the rollbar padding, look pretty much the same color. My hood and cowl is like OP's, really oxidized and rough. When the jeep is wet, you can't see the spots, but I don't know if that means only the clear coat is damaged or what.

Sorry to hijack.

krisbman 03-22-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by s14sh3r (Post 3540271)

A lot depends on the color, right? Mine is Moss Green and the painted parts that never see the sun, like under the rollbar padding, look pretty much the same color. My hood and cowl is like OP's, really oxidized and rough. When the jeep is wet, you can't see the spots, but I don't know if that means only the clear coat is damaged or what.

Sorry to hijack.

Metallics and pearls its almost a necessity that you base clear them, however any painter worth his salt could get a good enough match to pull off a butt match on that panel. I used to do it all the time, tinting was my speciality

Rubicondon53 03-22-2013 10:06 PM

Stock paint on all Jeeps is manufactured by Sherwin Williams.. PPG is all fine and well, but you'll get a closer match using the same paint brand .. Just my uninformed opinion ..

krisbman 03-22-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubicondon53 (Post 3540407)
Stock paint on all Jeeps is manufactured by Sherwin Williams.. PPG is all fine and well, but you'll get a closer match using the same paint brand .. Just my uninformed opinion ..

Uhh i dont think that is correct, atleast when Iwas in the collision field. It was PPG. Nevertheless any good paint company will have a good match, " closer match" i beg to differ.

GoldenSahara00 03-22-2013 10:41 PM

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I did this corner body and paint work with spray paint and clear coat from paint scratch . com. 30 bucks for the two an they are the bigger cans. Matched awesome. I'm not even good at body work. You can't tell now except I missed a small spot when wet sanding and left a line. Since you are painting a whole piece it should be a breeze to get it to match.

If you have a paint gun and resources to do a professional job yourself, do it. I was very impressed with how well the paint matched however. You just give then the vin and they make you a custom can.

japanrider 03-22-2013 11:04 PM

The hardest part will be blending in the new paint and clear with the older faded clear and paint. You should polish out an area and see how different the base paint will be compared to a new coat. You can fade/blend the paint to trick the eye or wet sand everything and recoat with clear to bring it back out. The sides will fade less than the hood because of sunlight but after all the paint is stock and several years old. PPG will be your best bet and no need to do base clear. I own a shop here and if you want a step by step just PM me. Also if you post pics of the damage we can proabably give you a better answer on how to fix it. Some time oxidation is only in the clear and can be fixed with a good wet sanding and reapplication of clear. Or you can check out some of the detailing shops and see if they do a glass coating with prep and can make even older paint look new.

japanrider 03-22-2013 11:09 PM

Also I use the newer line water based paint here because of laws and such (most of the time) and have no issues blending in even with older based paints and even metalics and pearls but if there is a high flake or candy base you in for a headache. Just takes time and practice. Been painting now for 30 years everything from cars and bikes to boats and planes.

Johnnybonkel 03-23-2013 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by s14sh3r (Post 3540161)
OD in a rattle can FTW

Any translations please?

krisbman 03-23-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnybonkel (Post 3540944)

Any translations please?

Olive drab in a rattle can f$$k the world

Johnnybonkel 03-23-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3540965)

Olive drab in a rattle can f$$k the world

Great thanks :)

Patrick H 03-23-2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3540965)
Olive drab in a rattle can f$$k the world

That would be....For The Win

krisbman 03-23-2013 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick H (Post 3540980)

That would be....For The Win

Ding ding ding!!!

UFOtestpilot 03-23-2013 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3540965)

Olive drab in a rattle can f$$k the world

lol! Or " olive drab in a rattle can For The Win"

Whichever you prefer.

krisbman 03-23-2013 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UFOtestpilot (Post 3541038)

lol! Or " olive drab in a rattle can For The Win"

Whichever you prefer.

Beggars cant be choosers!!!

UFOtestpilot 03-23-2013 01:05 AM

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Beggars cant be choosers!!!


Yeah, I also thought I was on the last page on my phone, but apparently I'm late to the party.

I did some work for a door and hardware company out of Cheshire 4-5 years ago. Chill place.

krisbman 03-23-2013 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UFOtestpilot (Post 3541043)

Yeah, I also thought I was on the last page on my phone, but apparently I'm late to the party.

I did some work for a door and hardware company out of Cheshire 4-5 years ago. Chill place.

Oh snap, did u just say "Cheshire"

UFOtestpilot 03-23-2013 01:33 AM

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Oh snap, did u just say "Cheshire"

Isn't that where you is? I'm browsing on the phone again so I can't see your profile but I swear it said Cheshire Oregon.

krisbman 03-23-2013 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by UFOtestpilot (Post 3541092)

Isn't that where you is? I'm browsing on the phone again so I can't see your profile but I swear it said Cheshire Oregon.

Yessir

elclipo 03-23-2013 08:59 AM

Wow there were many more responses than I expected! Looks like in the end I will likely take the jeep to a shop to get it repainted but that's out of the question right now. Looks like the cowl is getting plastidipped.

Jaxon1023 03-23-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by elclipo (Post 3541884)
Wow there were many more responses than I expected! Looks like in the end I will likely take the jeep to a shop to get it repainted but that's out of the question right now. Looks like the cowl is getting plastidipped.

Thats a great alternative. Maybe do your front grill aswell

elclipo 03-23-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaxon1023 (Post 3541923)

Thats a great alternative. Maybe do your front grill aswell

That's the plan. Cowl and front grill for now. Although I may go straight for bed liner on the grill.


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