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cornfedksboy 03-24-2013 08:59 AM

Do I need to protect my leather interior from the weather?
 
I have a '13 JKU Moab, hardtop and black leather interior. This summer I want to spend as much time as possible with the top off. I'm planning on buying a Harken hoist to attach in my garage and driving the Jeep to work (which is less than 3 miles away). At work, I will be parking in an unprotected parking lot.

Concerns:

Do I need to be concerned about my leather cracking and/or fading in the Kansas sun?

What's the best way to keep my Jeep dry in case of light unexpected showers? We generally see huge thunderheads rolling in from 100 miles away if we are going to get a down poor, but occasionally, we'll have some smaller sprinkles and I'd like to avoid puddles as much as possible.

Thanks for ideas and suggestions!

bloodfart 03-24-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cornfedksboy (Post 3545437)
I have a '13 JKU Moab, hardtop and black leather interior. This summer I want to spend as much time as possible with the top off. I'm planning on buying a Harken hoist to attach in my garage and driving the Jeep to work (which is less than 3 miles away). At work, I will be parking in an unprotected parking lot.

Concerns:

Do I need to be concerned about my leather cracking and/or fading in the Kansas sun?

What's the best way to keep my Jeep dry in case of light unexpected showers? We generally see huge thunderheads rolling in from 100 miles away if we are going to get a down poor, but occasionally, we'll have some smaller sprinkles and I'd like to avoid puddles as much as possible.

Thanks for ideas and suggestions!

You could get a spider shade or bikini top

Moabite 03-24-2013 09:21 AM

You are definitely going to need to protect that leather much more than you would cloth seats. Even on my Tundra which is not topless, I use leather conditioner every few months to keep them from drying and cracking. After 5 years, they still look new. Rain and sun will not be good for those seats. I almost ordered leather in my JK, but then realized the problems I would run into when topless...not to mention how uncomfortable they would be on a hot day in the desert southwest. I would use a good quality leather conditioner on them often...like maybe every few weeks...and try to keep them shaded. Actually, if I had leather seats in my Jeep, I would do the same thing I did with my cloth seats. I covered them with TrekArmors.

cornfedksboy 03-24-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Moabite (Post 3545504)
You are definitely going to need to protect that leather much more than you would cloth seats. Even on my Tundra which is not topless, I use leather conditioner quite often to keep them from drying and cracking. After 5 years, they still look new. Rain and sun will not be good for those seats. I almost ordered leather in my JK, but then realized the problems I would run into when topless...not to mention how uncomfortable they would be on a hot day in the desert southwest.

I just started thinking about this and I am wondering if seat covers might be the best bet for the summer. Are neoprene seat covers my best bet for fit and comfort, or should I just get a "seat towel." Is a summer top a better solution for sun and rain?

Dusthol 03-24-2013 09:32 AM

All the same questions I have been thinking

krawdaddy 03-24-2013 12:14 PM

why would rain be bad on leather? Rain doesn't affect cows.

greech 03-24-2013 12:33 PM

I just got my Harken hoist installed yesterday, and plan on getting my hardtop off as soon as the Virginia weather warms up a bit more. As I am also concerned with my leather, I plan to get Wet Okoles for summertime, as well as add a soft top for when parked in uncovered lots.

cornfedksboy 03-24-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by greech
I just got my Harken hoist installed yesterday, and plan on getting my hardtop off as soon as the Virginia weather warms up a bit more. As I am also concerned with my leather, I plan to get Wet Okoles for summertime, as well as add a soft top for when parked in uncovered lots.

Are you going to get a Mopar soft top or something else?

greech 03-24-2013 12:58 PM

I think I'm going with the trek top nx...

Lithium Lotus 03-24-2013 01:55 PM

You will want to buy Meguiar's leather cleaning wipes by the case. They have moisturizers in the wipes to help the leather.

cornfedksboy 03-24-2013 03:46 PM

I can't be the only guy to go topless with leather. What have others done?

AUskier 03-24-2013 04:33 PM

First off our factory leather seats are primarily vinyl, like boat vinyl seats, at least I know that to be true on the 2012 and earlier seats, haven't really looked hard at the 2013 seats. These seats are pretty rugged and made to live through a certain level of exposure. So far I treat the seats with 303 aerospace protectant (the same stuff I use on the vinyl boat seats in my nautique). I've been using it because so many guys in the boating world love it and I have to say after years of use I'm sold... I think of it as UV protection, I also use lexol leather cleaner and lexol leather conditioner about once a month. (Maybe a little more often during the summer when I'm running topless more often)

Chris S 03-24-2013 05:04 PM

I had an issue with dark colored blue jeans discoloring my tan seats and found a great post about how to take care of leather seats. I've been using the conditioner mentioned in this post for the past few months and it really does work well.

Blue Jean transfer and Leatherique – Detailed Image

cornfedksboy 03-24-2013 05:39 PM

So seat covers aren't required for a topless summer? Just some treatment and maybe a towel so I don't burn my ass.

AUskier 03-24-2013 07:39 PM

Ha. Truthfully my seats are hot if they sit in direct sunlight. I would have preferred a lighter gray colored leather seat. But I was super happy about everything else that this jeep had so I bought it off the lot, and they can be redone with a different color if I wanted to pay for it.

I keep a few microfiber hand towels in the jeep all the time. I'll lay one on the seat if I'm worried its going to be too hot to sit in when I get back. Not an elegant solution I guess, but it works for me. The towels come in handy if anything gets wet as well. My opinion is that the leather seats are definitely better for wet situations. Just wipe them off and sit down. My bum's never been wet.

Some have cut a hole in a towel and slip it over the headrest, or put Velcro or snaps on one end so you can snap it around the headrest. There are even some Jeep seat towels ready made if you wanted them.

I think true seat covers that you leave on come down to personal preference. I don't prefer them, so I'm not going to use them. If my leather starts looking bad years down the road then I'll probably just pay the $1000 to $1500 to redo the seats.

There are others who love seat covers. Maybe someone else who uses them can chime in on that front.

cornfedksboy 03-24-2013 07:42 PM

Thanks AU! Do you run straps or mesh top? Do you carry an emergency cover?

AUskier 03-24-2013 08:42 PM

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I park in our garage at night. Honestly that's an awesome plus for hardtop owners who like to run topless.

I carry a bestop trailcover for emergencies. Works great, wish it was a little lighter. Here's a pic from when I first got the jeep last summer
Attachment 227044

Last year I did not have a bikini but I did get a duster first thing. I love having that!
Attachment 227057

This winter I bought a bikini, but I haven't put it on yet. I'm on the fence about whether its simply going to be an emergency top that I can drive with or something I will keep on. I really like having the top off.

I've also been using an awesome app on my iPhone called dark sky:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dark...517329357?mt=8

It uses the GPS in your phone plus local radar to predict down to the minute when it's going to start raining on you and for how long into the future it will rain. I have it set up to alert me at a sprinkle and its been awesome! Check it out if you have an iPhone or look for something similar on whatever you use.

cornfedksboy 03-24-2013 08:52 PM

Sweet! Is the duster a best top or similar? Can you open the tailgate with it on?

AUskier 03-24-2013 09:16 PM

It's a bestop duster and then you also need a tailgate bar. The tailgate does open with the duster on.

I lucked out and found a practically brand new one on Craig's list that a guy bought and then said he never used, so I picked mine up cheap, but you can get the total package for about $180 new.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/11154_023X_PG.htm

dieselgiant 03-24-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by krawdaddy (Post 3546001)
why would rain be bad on leather? Rain doesn't affect cows.


Ahhhhh because a cow is living and the leather is dead.

bloodfart 03-25-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dieselgiant (Post 3548083)

Ahhhhh because a cow is living and the leather is dead.

There's probably no cow at all in the pleather seats :p this aint no top grain expensive couch :)

krawdaddy 03-25-2013 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cornfedksboy (Post 3546703)
I can't be the only guy to go topless with leather. What have others done?

Haven't had the opportunity yet
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Originally Posted by dieselgiant (Post 3548083)
Ahhhhh because a cow is living and the leather is dead.

:facepalm:
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Originally Posted by bloodfart (Post 3548696)
There's probably no cow at all in the pleather seats :p this aint no top grain expensive couch :)

it's an odd leather. Feels very tough. Not soft and supple

reissc1 03-25-2013 07:18 AM

I have the black leather as well. I definitely don't think there is much leather in there. I have it about a year and a half, and the seats look like new. I use the 303 regularly, and I run a spiderweb shade. The shade helps greatly. I've been lucky enough to not get caught in the rain yet. So, I'm not sure how they will fare. I do not carry an emergency top just in case.

cornfedksboy 03-25-2013 07:26 AM

I think, in addition to regular care, I'm going to get a spidershade or similar top, tonneau cover, seat towel, and emergency top. Harken hoist too!

greech 03-25-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AUskier (Post 3547867)

I've also been using an awesome app on my iPhone called dark sky:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dark...517329357?mt=8

It uses the GPS in your phone plus local radar to predict down to the minute when it's going to start raining on you and for how long into the future it will rain. I have it set up to alert me at a sprinkle and its been awesome! Check it out if you have an iPhone or look for something similar on whatever you use.

This is called "Cloudy Sky" in the Android market. Great app!

greech 03-25-2013 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cornfedksboy (Post 3549196)
I think, in addition to regular care, I'm going to get a spidershade or similar top, tonneau cover, seat towel, and emergency top. Harken hoist too!

When you install that hoist, if you don't have an impact gun, I HIGHLY recommend you rent or borrow one. I used an electric drill to get the lag bolts into the rafters as far as it would drive them then finished by wratcheting them the rest of the way in. A good arm workout for sure, but a pain in the arse doing it upside-down above your head...

rddavisjr 03-25-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by greech (Post 3549226)

When you install that hoist, if you don't have an impact gun, I HIGHLY recommend you rent or borrow one. I used an electric drill to get the lag bolts into the rafters as far as it would drive them then finished by wratcheting them the rest of the way in. A good arm workout for sure, but a pain in the arse doing it upside-down above your head...

I agree with this. I used a cheap wired drill when I installed my hoist. The drill was ruined when I was done and i discarded it. Also, I purchased the bolts recommended in the instructions to attach the 2x6's to the ceiling from Home Depot. I broke two of the heads off of the bolts. So be careful not to do this. Finally, I would have a high quality larger size ratchet set to do this. I worked up a sweat tightening the bolts.

In my opinion, this is definitely a two man job.

cornfedksboy 03-25-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rddavisjr (Post 3549763)
I agree with this. I used a cheap wired drill when I installed my hoist. The drill was ruined when I was done and i discarded it. Also, I purchased the bolts recommended in the instructions to attach the 2x6's to the ceiling from Home Depot. I broke two of the heads off of the bolts. So be careful not to do this. Finally, I would have a high quality larger size ratchet set to do this. I worked up a sweat tightening the bolts.

In my opinion, this is definitely a two man job.

:eek: At least I know ahead of time. :thumb:

Gort 03-25-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by reissc1 (Post 3549175)
I have the black leather as well. I definitely don't think there is much leather in there.

I can't speak for the 2013s, but my understanding is that on the 2012s and back, on the standard "leather-trimmed" seats, only the center portion of the seat and back is actually leather. The bolsters and headrest are vinyl/Naugahyde/whatever. If you rub your fingertips across the seat from the bolster to the center portion you can actually feel the texture difference (well, at least I can feel the difference). My understanding is that the Katzkins, OTOH, are all leather.

I keep after mine with leather conditioner at regular intervals.

Swayze79 06-02-2013 09:49 PM

Caught in the Rain
 
So today I was driving my 2012 Call of Duty with the top off and it just started to pour. I didn't let it get to me and was laughing at all the people looking at me as it's pouring rain. As I was under the impression that jeeps were made to get hosed down and had drains in them but maybe that's older models.

Than I got to thinking about the type of seats I have and wanted to make sure they wouldn't get ruined as they have special stitching in them to represent the model and I'd like to keep it in good looking shape. Any advice on how to prevent any future damage from this event.

Thanks for any advice


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