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Drew1593 03-24-2013 04:34 PM

Hard top and soft top
 
I have both the hard top and the soft top on at the same time. I was wondering what are the drawbacks of having both tops on at the same time besides loosing space in the trunk.

Mcrock 03-24-2013 05:05 PM

That's the way dual tops are shipped from the factory. Strictly a temporary set up. Manual says remove as soon as possible.
Or just remove your hard top and go with soft top

reynolr 03-24-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew1593 (Post 3546664)
I have both the hard top and the soft top on at the same time. I was wondering what are the drawbacks of having both tops on at the same time besides loosing space in the trunk.

I don't see why it would be a problem.

jwilson2598 03-24-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mcrock (Post 3546753)
That's the way dual tops are shipped from the factory. Strictly a temporary set up. Manual says remove as soon as possible.
Or just remove your hard top and go with soft top

This right here. The soft top header can end up rubbing against the hardtop to the point of wearing a hole in the fabric.

VaderJK12 03-24-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew1593 (Post 3546664)
I have both the hard top and the soft top on at the same time. I was wondering what are the drawbacks of having both tops on at the same time besides loosing space in the trunk.

Just possible damage. Remove one at your earliest convenience.

Dew 03-24-2013 06:44 PM

I'm taking my jeep on a cross country road trip. Folding the soft top down and putting the hard top back on. Going to put some foam padding where the soft and hard top contact, hopefully that will protect it from damage.

Anyone done this? I'm talking 2000 plus miles of driving with this set up.

BaldwinJeep 03-24-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dew (Post 3547090)
I'm taking my jeep on a cross country road trip. Folding the soft top down and putting the hard top back on. Going to put some foam padding where the soft and hard top contact, hopefully that will protect it from damage.

Anyone done this? I'm talking 2000 plus miles of driving with this set up.

Why wouldn't you just remove the soft top? It's not that difficult?

Dew 03-24-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BaldwinJeep (Post 3547098)
Why wouldn't you just remove the soft top? It's not that difficult?

because this is a one way road trip.

The hard top is sitting in a shed but I don't want to sell it or the soft top, so I'm dusting it off and putting it back on my jeep before I leave.

BaldwinJeep 03-24-2013 07:23 PM

That makes sense. Just do like you said and you should be good.

chopshop 03-24-2013 08:02 PM

The soft top is a hassle.

Hansen 03-24-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dew (Post 3547090)
I'm taking my jeep on a cross country road trip. Folding the soft top down and putting the hard top back on. Going to put some foam padding where the soft and hard top contact, hopefully that will protect it from damage.

Anyone done this? I'm talking 2000 plus miles of driving with this set up.

That should solve the possible rubbing issues.

Senojelyk 05-07-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dew (Post 3547090)
I'm taking my jeep on a cross country road trip. Folding the soft top down and putting the hard top back on. Going to put some foam padding where the soft and hard top contact, hopefully that will protect it from damage.

Anyone done this? I'm talking 2000 plus miles of driving with this set up.

How did that work out for you?

I'm planning the same style trip, only my move isn't as far, closer to 1000 miles. Anything I should be concerned with aside from the fabric rubbing?

Has anyone tried taking the soft top completely off, turning it sideways and fitting it it in the back, would it fit?

Thanks in advance.

st1264 05-08-2013 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Senojelyk (Post 3731705)
How did that work out for you?

I'm planning the same style trip, only my move isn't as far, closer to 1000 miles. Anything I should be concerned with aside from the fabric rubbing?

Has anyone tried taking the soft top completely off, turning it sideways and fitting it it in the back, would it fit?

Thanks in advance.

(Initial Dual Top uninstall) I took mine out. I don't see where any fabric would rub anywhere. It's only attached to the roll bar with brackets and no fabric touches the hardtop that I can see. People have said this and I checked mine out closely when both were installed and didn't see any material contact except for metal on metal on the rollbar which would be normal when the soft top alone is installed.

I don't think you'll hurt anything but I'd take it out and put your HT back on for the luggage space and it doesn't make sense running around with 2 tops anyway.

If you are talking about having the whole soft top extended and installed with the hardtop over it, I'd say it'll cost you a few bucks when you ruin it during the trip.

Senojelyk 05-08-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by st1264 (Post 3732174)

(Initial Dual Top uninstall) I took mine out. I don't see where any fabric would rub anywhere. It's only attached to the roll bar with brackets and no fabric touches the hardtop that I can see. People have said this and I checked mine out closely when both were installed and didn't see any material contact except for metal on metal on the rollbar which would be normal when the soft top alone is installed.

I don't think you'll hurt anything but I'd take it out and put your HT back on for the luggage space and it doesn't make sense running around with 2 tops anyway.

If you are talking about having the whole soft top extended and installed with the hardtop over it, I'd say it'll cost you a few bucks when you ruin it during the trip.

Not too worried about space, just trying to decide how to take it. If I take the soft top completely off I have to ship it with the movers and I don't really want to do that if I can help it. Only taking a few suitcases on the drive so luggage space isn't an issue.

No, obviously I'm not running it extended and up with the hard top over it.

st1264 05-08-2013 10:25 AM

Take the HT off (need 2 people) then take off the 2 brackets that secure it to the roll bar. I folded down my backseat (JKU) and the soft top fit in the back length-ways. Then I took it home and it's now in my basement. If you have a 2dr it might be a little more cramped, but it should fit. Make sure you have the 2 boxes with the windows/hardware.

Here's a write-up:

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Originally Posted by Jackson Wrangler (Post 2446206)
The soft top comes installed with the hard top over it when you buy the new vehicle with a neon orange sign on the folded up soft top that states must be removed or will become damaged/warranty voided. Really, it just makes loading/unloading trunk extremely difficult.

Anyway, according to the dealer, all I needed was a #40 Torx drill bit to take the soft top out after having removed the hard top. It turns out that you also need a #30 Torx bit as well to remove screws that connect the soft top harness to the roll bars. Here's the steps:

1) Remove front panels of hard top
2) Remove 2 x top screws (one on each side above the rear doors) on hard top then 6 x screws at the base of the hard top inside the vehicle (three on each side) using #40 Torx.
3)Remove hard top
4) Unscrew soft top harness from roll cage 2 x screws on each side #30 torx
5) Remove soft top
6) Replace Hard top and front panels

Dan


TestnDoc 05-08-2013 10:34 AM

When you remove the soft top from the vehicle, how much space in the trunk do you gain? Is it like having a vehicle with no sof top to begin with? I did not realize the soft top could be completely removed.

st1264 05-08-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TestnDoc (Post 3733113)
When you remove the soft top from the vehicle, how much space in the trunk do you gain? Is it like having a vehicle with no sof top to begin with? I did not realize the soft top could be completely removed.

Yes. You get access to your storage space. In a JKU you have a ton of space if you fold down the rear seats.

Senojelyk 05-08-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by st1264 (Post 3733079)
Take the HT off (need 2 people) then take off the 2 brackets that secure it to the roll bar. I folded down my backseat (JKU) and the soft top fit in the back length-ways. Then I took it home and it's now in my basement. If you have a 2dr it might be a little more cramped, but it should fit. Make sure you have the 2 boxes with the windows/hardware.

Here's a write-up:

Hard top is off, soft top up now, might just leave it in the back with the seat folded down, thanks.


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