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Lime 04-03-2013 12:26 AM

Can this be CJ restored ?
 
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Hello everyone !
I have a question for those that restored their jeeps or have had experience restoring other vehicles.

It's been sitting for about 10 years.
Exposed to that great humid/rainy south Florida weather.

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I was going to purchase a new jeep but decided to put my interest in this.
It belong to my father until now since he passed it down to me to turn it into a project car.
It's a 1983 cj7 according to the VIN but for some reason has a different bumper.

Lime 04-03-2013 12:28 AM

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Lime 04-03-2013 12:29 AM

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That last one is of the suspension. Tried to get a decent shot.

CarolinaBound 04-03-2013 12:30 AM

Not much to contribute, just saw this pop up on the side...but that looks like pretty awesome condition compared to what a CJ would look like sitting outside that long up here.

edit: that's a YJ.

Lime 04-03-2013 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolinaBound (Post 3587828)
Not much to contribute, just saw this pop up on the side...but that looks like pretty awesome condition compared to what a CJ would look like sitting outside that long up here.

edit: that's a YJ.

That's what I said but my father said its a cj.
Here is the vin
1jccm87e2dt047695

Now maybe the bumper was swapped ? I was a kid when he got it off some guy so maybe it was in an accident prior to him buying it.

Chief301 04-03-2013 04:24 AM

It's not the bumper everyone is going by, it's the headlights....the YJ was the only model with the square headlights. CJ's would have round headlights.

gixxerphil 04-03-2013 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolinaBound (Post 3587828)
Not much to contribute, just saw this pop up on the side...but that looks like pretty awesome condition compared to what a CJ would look like sitting outside that long up here.

edit: that's a YJ.

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Originally Posted by Lime (Post 3587853)
That's what I said but my father said its a cj.
Here is the vin
1jccm87e2dt047695

Now maybe the bumper was swapped ? I was a kid when he got it off some guy so maybe it was in an accident prior to him buying it.

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Originally Posted by Chief301 (Post 3588004)
It's not the bumper everyone is going by, it's the headlights....the YJ was the only model with the square headlights. CJ's would have round headlights.


It's a CJ with a YJ front clip :eek:

Chief301 04-03-2013 04:35 AM

That VIN does come back as a '83 CJ7 . Hmmmm....

gixxerphil 04-03-2013 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief301 (Post 3588008)
That VIN does come back as a '83 CJ7 . Hmmmm....


The CJ front clip has been swapped on YJ's...someone just swapped the YJ over to the CJ :thumb:

Goofyjumper 04-03-2013 07:23 AM

That is a CJ (You can tell by the interior pictures.) It looks restore-able. My CJ was in worse condition when I restored it. I would recommend you convert the front back to round headlights.

4Jeepn 04-03-2013 07:37 AM

How does the frame look.. any soft spots?

Lime 04-03-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofyjumper (Post 3588220)
That is a CJ (You can tell by the interior pictures.) It looks restore-able. My CJ was in worse condition when I restored it. I would recommend you convert the front back to round headlights.

Where do you think I can get the original piece to convert it back to a cj ?

Lime 04-03-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 3588265)
How does the frame look.. any soft spots?

It was dark out, from what I saw their is rust on the floor (eaten thru the foot wells on some spots)
Rust in various areas.

I still need to do some more examination of where the problem areas are.

Cons_Table 04-03-2013 10:05 AM

Can someone clarify for me, but in my Grandpas old CJ7, there were 2 sticks. One was the transfercase, the other was the transmission. Just curious where the gear selector (if auto) is at...or where is your shifter? I am assuming it's on the column but I'm not sure. I have only scene the interior of a few CJs :popcorn:

faultymechanics 04-03-2013 11:07 AM

YOu are going to need to scan craigslist. You can definitely find the full cj front clip, not too expensive either. You will need a new tub, or you could patch the old one...maybe. Regardless I would say buy a new tub. The nice thing is parts are plentiful and basically everything can be pulled off the CJ with relative ease so you should be able to do most of the work yourself. Just buy parts ranging in colors and either wait until you have it all together to paint or paint each part the color you want as you go. I can tell from pictures that is going to be a full restoration. Rebuild the engine too, don't even dare to turn it over if it has been sitting. Belt snap= pistons into valves.

myquite 04-03-2013 11:29 AM

i'm guessing you need a tub, frame, driveline, motor, interior. anything can be done. I hope you're getting that for free. Otherwise, you'd be better served finding something more repairable.

Lime 04-03-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by faultymechanics (Post 3589070)
YOu are going to need to scan craigslist. You can definitely find the full cj front clip, not too expensive either. You will need a new tub, or you could patch the old one...maybe. Regardless I would say buy a new tub. The nice thing is parts are plentiful and basically everything can be pulled off the CJ with relative ease so you should be able to do most of the work yourself. Just buy parts ranging in colors and either wait until you have it all together to paint or paint each part the color you want as you go. I can tell from pictures that is going to be a full restoration. Rebuild the engine too, don't even dare to turn it over if it has been sitting. Belt snap= pistons into valves.

Does it matter the year of the cj7 I pull the parts off of ? Must it be a 83 or can I get parts of a later/early cj7 ?

I have a lot of work to do on this.

Lime 04-03-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by myquite (Post 3589156)
i'm guessing you need a tub, frame, driveline, motor, interior. anything can be done. I hope you're getting that for free. Otherwise, you'd be better served finding something more repairable.

I got it for free, it was just sitting there.

myquite 04-03-2013 12:01 PM

you can get parts from any cj-7 and even some cj-5's there are a few yj parts you can use also. good luck.

faultymechanics 04-03-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime (Post 3589255)
Does it matter the year of the cj7 I pull the parts off of ? Must it be a 83 or can I get parts of a later/early cj7 ?

I have a lot of work to do on this.

I think it is between 76-86 you can get direct swaps....earlier parts may work too depending on the part. And some YJ parts work as well. You may want to consider a motor swap as well; depending on your budget you can drop some fun stuff into it, sbc, amc 360, turbo diesel...anything.

Lime 04-03-2013 12:02 PM

Would it be crazy to order any of those parts from the jeep4x4 site ? Wouldn't that take away from the cars nostalgia and authenticity?.

Lime 04-03-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by myquite (Post 3589276)
you can get parts from any cj-7 and even some cj-5's there are a few yj parts you can use also. good luck.

Thanks man, I'm going to need it.

Lime 04-03-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by faultymechanics (Post 3589279)
I think it is between 76-86 you can get direct swaps....earlier parts may work too depending on the part. And some YJ parts work as well. You may want to consider a motor swap as well; depending on your budget you can drop some fun stuff into it, sbc, amc 360, turbo diesel...anything.

That's going to be the fun part.

Goofyjumper 04-03-2013 12:05 PM

For the front clip, hood, and fenders, you can use from 72 and up.

faultymechanics 04-03-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime (Post 3589283)
Would it be crazy to order any of those parts from the jeep4x4 site ? Wouldn't that take away from the cars nostalgia and authenticity?.

Well if you are trying to keep it all original parts from the time period go with craigslist. If you need to save money use craigslist. If you want a beautiful new jeep cj-7 use websites and buy new parts. If I had the money for it id be all over those websites.

faultymechanics 04-03-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cons_Table (Post 3588787)
Can someone clarify for me, but in my Grandpas old CJ7, there were 2 sticks. One was the transfercase, the other was the transmission. Just curious where the gear selector (if auto) is at...or where is your shifter? I am assuming it's on the column but I'm not sure. I have only scene the interior of a few CJs :popcorn:

For me, the selector is on the column; although i have a chevy small block in there so the column was changed im sure.

Lime 04-03-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by faultymechanics (Post 3589342)
Well if you are trying to keep it all original parts from the time period go with craigslist. If you need to save money use craigslist. If you want a beautiful new jeep cj-7 use websites and buy new parts. If I had the money for it id be all over those websites.

I will try to do that. If push comes to shove I will shop on the sites for the needed parts.
Thanks for your help on all this ! Along with everyone else, thanks !

faultymechanics 04-03-2013 03:45 PM

No problem. Personally I love craigslist, everybody is always sketched out by it but a jeeper is a jeeper and is always down to talk about Jeeps with ya. Also chances are if they have a couple parts you need once you see them you will find many more. Anddddd they will generally be very cheap.

Lime 04-03-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by faultymechanics (Post 3590058)
No problem. Personally I love craigslist, everybody is always sketched out by it but a jeeper is a jeeper and is always down to talk about Jeeps with ya. Also chances are if they have a couple parts you need once you see them you will find many more. Anddddd they will generally be very cheap.

I just checked my local CL and they have a ton of parts I can use. One guys is selling the whole suspension set up and another is selling a cj7 front end.

Pretty excited to start this

faultymechanics 04-03-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime (Post 3591189)
I just checked my local CL and they have a ton of parts I can use. One guys is selling the whole suspension set up and another is selling a cj7 front end.

Pretty excited to start this


Yeah lots of parts are always being sold on craigslist. You could also check local junkyards. I personally haven't gone to any but I know my project car has loads of parts that can be found at tons of junkyards.


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