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jbarron 04-04-2013 12:52 PM

What's best for off roading?
 
I'm new to the jeep thing... sort of. My dad owned a couple jeeps while I was growing up and was a "designer" of a small company that created jeep parts. And I fell in love. Now, I want to buy my own. I want to buy a wrangler and build it for off roading. Obviously, I'm not buying anything until I know what I'm doing and what I want so I have a few questions that maybe ya'll can answer.

1. I want a wrangler sport s. Do they have options for a hard top and soft top? Or does it just come in soft top?

2. 6 in. lift looks the best to me. With that, what size wheels and tires would you recommended?

3. What year do you think is best? I've been interested in the 2002 but I'm not really sure of the different features/looks on the newer models but I'd be interested in learning about them.

I would like to note that I'm definitely a beginner when it comes to knowledge about the jeep but I'm hear to learn so anything you have for me would be great! Thanks in advance!

COLOUJK 04-04-2013 01:24 PM

6 inches of lift? you can probably fit 40's with that much lift. Most people here go with 2.5" - 3.5" and run up to 37's with the 3.5".

If its a DD I would recommend 35's and maybe 37's for comforts sake. Just search this forum for info on lifts and you will learn a lot.

jbarron 04-04-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by COLOUJK (Post 3594226)
6 inches of lift? you can probably fit 40's with that much lift. Most people here go with 2.5" - 3.5" and run up to 37's with the 3.5".

If its a DD I would recommend 35's and maybe 37's for comforts sake. Just search this forum for info on lifts and you will learn a lot.

Thank you. And you're right... Ill probably just get a 3.5 lift with bigger tires. Same effect. I'm looking for height, really. But thanks!

live_slow 04-04-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jbarron (Post 3594108)
I'm new to the jeep thing... sort of. My dad owned a couple jeeps while I was growing up and was a "designer" of a small company that created jeep parts. And I fell in love. Now, I want to buy my own. I want to buy a wrangler and build it for off roading. Obviously, I'm not buying anything until I know what I'm doing and what I want so I have a few questions that maybe ya'll can answer.

1. I want a wrangler sport s. Do they have options for a hard top and soft top? Or does it just come in soft top?

2. 6 in. lift looks the best to me. With that, what size wheels and tires would you recommended?

3. What year do you think is best? I've been interested in the 2002 but I'm not really sure of the different features/looks on the newer models but I'd be interested in learning about them.

I would like to note that I'm definitely a beginner when it comes to knowledge about the jeep but I'm hear to learn so anything you have for me would be great! Thanks in advance!

I do not own and haven't owned a CJ or Wrangler. I owned a mildly built up XJ (4.5 lift, locker, 32 BFGs, 4.56 regear). I'm here becuase I'm about to order a JK. Keeping that in mind, I'll share my thoughts.

- A stock wrangler will go places you wouldn't imagine without trying. Just make sure it's properly armored and you have recovery and a buddy.

- As stuff breaks (it will, so make sure you can get it home, like wheeling with a JP club) you replace it with your dream components. That way you learn what's best for your stomping grounds.

I admit it is my dream to build a bullet-proof ground up Jeep. But I won't do that for another decade or so, learning as I go.

Of course, if I had won the lotto yesterday, I'd either order an Icon CJ recreation or start building an overland JKU.

So it's your call. Have fun.

xcoaste 04-04-2013 02:17 PM

1. - You can order with a dual top option, only a hard top, or the soft top which is standard.
2. - A 6" lift on a TJ (2002) would be good for 35's. A 4" lift would be good for 33's. If you went with a newer Jeep (JK) then you don't need as large of a lift for those size tires.
3. - Buy what you can afford. Lifting a vehicle and doing it so that you can maintain as much of the other original attributes is very costly. Tires and wheels, regearing, fenders, ect... Since you said buy it for off roading I would suggest the TJ, since it will be more cost effective. If money isn't an issue the JK's have more creature comforts such as power windows, nicer interior.

sinbob 04-04-2013 02:26 PM

This is my jeep. It took me almost a year and a half to find it. I knew what I wanted and what I wanted to do with it. I wanted a Rubicon because after market they are not much more in cost than a reg jeep, but all of the extras you get are fantastic. I wanted the in line 6 cyl (4.0)and the 6speed transmission. that left me with 2 choices 05 or 06. Well the 05 had a gear problem on the oil sending unit that caused all kinds of problems so I got the 06. The only thing I wish it was is an LJ not a TJ.
As you see it, it has a heavy duty 5.5 Rubicon express LA lift, 2" BL, currie steering and 1" moter mounts sitting on 35's. Tom Woods custom drive shafts etc etc etc...My next upgrade, because I have soooooo much flex is to put coilovers on the front and flat Metal cloak fenders. Even though, I have 6" bump stops, I still almost lose my coil springs in front.....not fun!:eek:

Figure out what it is YOU want and what YOU are going to use it for. Then look for it and when you find it, it will be YOURS:punk:

Then we will welcome you to the addiction:hide:....opps I mean club!!!

JEEP = just empty every pocket:surrender:

DozerJeeper 04-04-2013 06:20 PM

Not going to lie. When I first saw the title, all I could think of is this:

Conan - What is Best in Life - YouTube

jbarron 04-04-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DozerJeeper (Post 3595304)
Not going to lie. When I first saw the title, all I could think of is this:

Conan - What is Best in Life - YouTube

Hahaha that's great.

dabolt55 04-04-2013 07:21 PM

I know your getting some info here, but go to the TJ section for more responses to the '02 model...>>> TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum

PStov98TJ 04-04-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jbarron (Post 3594108)
I'm new to the jeep thing... sort of. My dad owned a couple jeeps while I was growing up and was a "designer" of a small company that created jeep parts. And I fell in love. Now, I want to buy my own. I want to buy a wrangler and build it for off roading. Obviously, I'm not buying anything until I know what I'm doing and what I want so I have a few questions that maybe ya'll can answer.

1. I want a wrangler sport s. Do they have options for a hard top and soft top? Or does it just come in soft top?

2. 6 in. lift looks the best to me. With that, what size wheels and tires would you recommended?

3. What year do you think is best? I've been interested in the 2002 but I'm not really sure of the different features/looks on the newer models but I'd be interested in learning about them.

I would like to note that I'm definitely a beginner when it comes to knowledge about the jeep but I'm hear to learn so anything you have for me would be great! Thanks in advance!

A few things.. 1) You're in the wrong part of the forum for TJ's. (Wranglers made from 1997-2006).
2) A 6" lift for a TJ is pretty extreme. That requires alot more than you realize right now. You can't just slap some springs under it and have everything be honky dory.
3) You can't fit 37's under a TJ with out tons of upgrades. 33's are the most common and a good middle point for TJ's. 35's also require lots of upgrades on the TJ.
So do some more research and head on over to the TJ part of the forum to learn some.
And remember, Google is your friend for researching.

Fitchottie 04-04-2013 07:37 PM

Big Tires :)

jbarron 04-04-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PStov98TJ (Post 3595597)

A few things.. 1) You're in the wrong part of the forum for TJ's. (Wranglers made from 1997-2006).
2) A 6" lift for a TJ is pretty extreme. That requires alot more than you realize right now. You can't just slap some springs under it and have everything be honky dory.
3) You can't fit 37's under a TJ with out tons of upgrades. 33's are the most common and a good middle point for TJ's. 35's also require lots of upgrades on the TJ.
So do some more research and head on over to the TJ part of the forum to learn some.
And remember, Google is your friend for researching.

New to this forum. I'm on my phone so I got a little confused as to where I was on here.

I know it's not reasonable to get a 6in lift on a TJ. For some reason, I didn't really put it together that bigger tires contribute to the height until another user suggested it. I understand that a 3.5 would be more reasonable.

Google brought me to this site. Full of people who seem to be knowledgeable, friendly, and willing to share their information.

COLOUJK 04-05-2013 12:35 AM

Wait, are you talking about a TJ or a JK?

suicideking 04-05-2013 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by COLOUJK (Post 3597013)
Wait, are you talking about a TJ or a JK?

Good question! :D

OP: If you want an '02 (TJ) you're in the wrong froum. If you want a JK (07-13) you are in the correct forum.

JK's come in 2 and 4 doors. TJ's only come with 2 doors. There's also an LJ which is a longer TJ (also 2 door). LJ's are only '06.

overblown 04-05-2013 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by suicideking (Post 3597085)
Good question! :D

OP: If you want an '02 (TJ) you're in the wrong froum. If you want a JK (07-13) you are in the correct forum.

JK's come in 2 and 4 doors. TJ's only come with 2 doors. There's also an LJ which is a longer TJ (also 2 door). LJ's are only '06.

By that, he means you are in the wrong Section of this forum if you want a TJ. The right one if you want a JK.

Raiderfan001 04-05-2013 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by suicideking (Post 3597085)
There's also an LJ which is a longer TJ (also 2 door). LJ's are only '06.

LJs came out in '03

Nano 04-05-2013 04:52 AM

As others have mentioned, this is the JK (2007-201?) section of the WranglerForum. TJ's, the previous model were made from 1997-2006. You mentioned wanting a 2000, that would be a TJ.

I have a 2003 TJ and I am looking at getting a second Jeep, a 2013.

JKs have more, and fancier 'creature comforts' and features.

JKs generally take less modification to run bigger tires. I have a 2.5" lift on my TJ and I'm running 33" tires. The tires would rub the front fender while articulating when disconnected, which ended up causing the metal fenders to slice my tires. I have since changed out to the fenders and installed a set of MetalCloak fenders, which offer more clearance. In short, it took a moderate lift and modified fenders to run 33" tires. I believe some JKs come stock with 32" tires. Though they don't have the clearance I currently have, it wouldn't take as much modification to get there.

Note: articulating generally means one tire rides high into the fender-well when on an obstical, when the other tire, on the same axle, is drastically lower because it's not on a high obstical.

You mentioned off-roading it. If you are looking to really rock crawl, then you may want to think about the Rubicon sub-model. Rubicons cost more, but they generally come with sturdier axle's and higher gearing ratio.

TJ's will come noticably cheaper, compared to JKs. Though not as cheap as other decade+ old vehicles compared to their newer models.

I'm getting a JK for a couple reasons. I want a second vehicle so I still have transportation if the TJ goes down. I'm targeting the 4 door (Unlimited) version, because it would give me a different vehicle type. I plan on leaving the back seats folded down and using it more like a truck-bed.

Good Luck on your research, planning, and shopping!

kjeeper10 04-05-2013 05:18 AM

Moves to Tj tech :thumb:


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