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Buffalo 04-06-2013 11:42 AM

Brake Pad & Rotor Upgrade?
 
Help Please!

I have an 05 LJ Rubi and the front pads are just about gone. 6" Rubi Express Lift on 35's.

I use the jeep as it was intended and need to make sure I get performance stopping when heading through the steeps or narrows. Also need to make sure their as cool as possible.

Can anyone suggest pads, rotors or a complete package?

Many thanks!

Wheel2Work 04-06-2013 01:26 PM

Black Magic Brakes…

PuRcELL 04-06-2013 04:08 PM

Dito

BadPenny 04-06-2013 05:46 PM

blackmagicbrakes.com

Patrick H 04-06-2013 05:49 PM

Order this, and don't even worry about looking at any others..;) (the link says 97-99, but it's for the '00-'06)

Jeep Wranger (TJ) 1997 - 1999 Front Brake Package

UnlimitedRubicon 04-06-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo (Post 3601906)
Can anyone suggest pads, rotors or a complete package?


complete package - Vanco big brake kit (not available at this time afaik)
pads/rotors - black magic pads and centric premium rotors

Buffalo 04-09-2013 12:44 AM

Black Magic it is. Thank you gents!

Cheers

SeVeReDiStOrTiOn 04-09-2013 12:52 AM

Power slot rotors and hawk pads are also an option...that's what I have up front and love them. Black magic does get good reviews on here though.

Buffalo 04-10-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SeVeReDiStOrTiOn (Post 3612468)
Power slot rotors and hawk pads are also an option...that's what I have up front and love them. Black magic does get good reviews on here though.

That's sort of what brought me to ask the forum. My local 4-Wheel Parts suggested Power Slots and have a front assembly kit for $150, including pads and rotors. Hard to beat the price. Any bad reviews on PS?
Thanks again!

TJDave 04-10-2013 10:31 AM

Although I do not have slotted rotors, I have heard that you do not want them on a Jeep that is used offroad. The slots are a good place for mud and gunk to end up, taking a toll on your pads and braking ability.

I have been running Black Majic pads and Centric Premium rotors for 2 years and could not be happier.

The difference is short of amazing vs the stock brakes on my TJ.

Jerry Bransford 04-10-2013 10:42 AM

Just get the Black Magic pads with their rotor package, you'll get a noticeable braking performance improvment from the pads.

Don't fall for the drilled, slotted, or dimpled brake rotor gimimicks which only reduce their swept braking surface. Old design pads that off-gassed could benefit from such rotor designs during racing when the rotors would turn cherry red but your Jeep & its braking won't benefit in the least. Such rotors may look cool but...

DBoat 04-10-2013 12:59 PM

Another option is just some new rotors and EBC pads.. they are widely available, not pricey and stop like nobodys business. Been running EBC in my vehicles for over a decade without any regrets.

UnlimitedLJ04 04-10-2013 01:02 PM

for that big of a tire i'd suggest the Vanco big brake kit....Black Magic Brakes would probably suggest the same.

Jerry Bransford 04-10-2013 01:03 PM

EBC Yellow Stuff pads are superb. They were #1 for braking until the Black Magic pad was introduced that is even more superb.

Edit: I would suggest/recommend the Big Brake kit from Vanco too but I don't think they are available at this time... out of stock or something similar.

DBoat 04-10-2013 01:15 PM

I would also second the no drilled, slotted rotors, they just hold mud. My rotors were about $25 each and work fine. I havent had the chance to try the Black Magic pads, so I cant comment on them, but many here seem to really like them a lot.

wedu22 04-10-2013 01:39 PM

Black Magic:thumb:! Those rotors/pads have saved me on Ct highways more times that I care to mention between the careless drivers & the deer:nonono:.

Angus Brown 04-10-2013 02:19 PM

Anyone have the break-in procedures for the Black Magic pads? The link on their website is broken: http://blackmagicbrakes.com/Pad_Break-in.html

UFOtestpilot 04-10-2013 02:51 PM

I don't have it but I would assume its a standard hard bed-in process. Couple/few firm (hard) drops from 60-30 with some cool time before you park it.

At least that's what I would assume, assumption being the key here.

Giljorak 04-10-2013 03:13 PM

Brake Pad Break-in

Angus Brown 04-11-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Giljorak (Post 3619925)

Thanks

Black Magic Brakes 04-11-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo (Post 3601906)
Help Please!

I have an 05 LJ Rubi and the front pads are just about gone. 6" Rubi Express Lift on 35's.

I use the jeep as it was intended and need to make sure I get performance stopping when heading through the steeps or narrows. Also need to make sure their as cool as possible.

Can anyone suggest pads, rotors or a complete package?

Many thanks!

Cool as possible would be a set of the Stop Tech slotted face rotors and our pads for now until we get the Vanco stuff back into production.

The slotted face stuff will work slightly better at the extreme ends of braking events and will of course add to the aesthetics of your brake package.

Black Magic Brakes 04-11-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBoat (Post 3619401)
Another option is just some new rotors and EBC pads.. they are widely available, not pricey and stop like nobodys business. Been running EBC in my vehicles for over a decade without any regrets.

EBC stuff is good, but NOT pricey is never a term I would use to describe them. Ounce for ounce, they are more expensive than our stuff especially when you factor in stopping ability. If they were better, I'd be selling them.

Patrick H 04-11-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes (Post 3623141)
EBC stuff is good, but NOT pricey is never a term I would use to describe them. Ounce for ounce, they are more expensive than our stuff especially when you factor in stopping ability. If they were better, I'd be selling them.


When I told my Dad how much Black Magic pads cost, he commented on the price. I told him to go price some EBC pads and get back to me.
He did, and told me he was excited to get his BMB pads installed..;)

dmj13 04-11-2013 02:24 PM

I've read nothing but good from the Vanco upgrade. Especially with 35s.

txsmokeater 04-12-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick H (Post 3602871)
Order this, and don't even worry about looking at any others..;) (the link says 97-99, but it's for the '00-'06)

Jeep Wranger (TJ) 1997 - 1999 Front Brake Package

I know the front brakes do most of the stoping work. Any negative effects of switching the front out to the above setup and just changing pads on the rear?

Patrick H 04-12-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txsmokeater (Post 3629817)
I know the front brakes do most of the stoping work. Any negative effects of switching the front out to the above setup and just changing pads on the rear?

Nope. I'm running Black Magic pads in front, and cheap shoes in the rear. Stopping is phenomenal. ;)

bondosgto 04-13-2013 03:13 AM

I did the black magic pads rotors on all 4 corners and new front calipers and it is the best thing I have done to my jeep.

Johnnybonkel 04-13-2013 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bondosgto (Post 3630621)
I did the black magic pads rotors on all 4 corners and new front calipers and it is the best thing I have done to my jeep.

I bought my first jeep last year. 1st day driving around my home town I was SO close to rear ending someone it scared my to death - The stock brakes that were still new were frightening hopeless. I immediately bought the full monty Black Magic breaks and rotors package. I bled system fully and broke hem in as per instructions. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. This is the best upgrade I have ever done...and...they seem to be getting even better.

wtbiv73 04-13-2013 06:55 AM

Might I add something funny:

Slotted and drilled rotors are great for street cars but don't put 'em on your Jeep. They get caked with mud and rocks while off roading and then squeak like hell.

Also destroys your rotors and rips up your pads.

I learned the expensive way.

I wanted them got towing but then went off roading.

Oopps, live n learn

Jerry Bransford 04-13-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmj13 (Post 3623947)
I've read nothing but good from the Vanco upgrade. Especially with 35s.

I miss the hell out of my Vanco brakes that were on my previous TJ when it was stolen. :facepalm:


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