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BrianTG 04-08-2013 11:20 AM

Oh my i fixed something.
 
Sooooo. I finally did work on the jeep without supervision and it would seem that I did it right. With the new found confidence I am wanting to check out other things. So any help would be appreciated.

1. I still need to change my actual steering box. I've read that I need a special tool to take the pitman arm off. The problem is I don't have nor really even know where I can get one. What's it called and where could I get one? Also my understanding is that it's mainly bolting it on plus attaching some hoses. Is there anything special that I'm supposed to do prior to bolting it on?

2. I believe the clock spring is gone on the jeep. I'm very hesitant to take off the steering wheel. Any advise would be huge.

3. It seems that my back left shock is still rubbing against the top front corner of my gas tank. It only happens if I take a sharp right turn. But it's something I want to get fixed.

I wanted to learn how to maintain and work on my jeep and I'm pretty stoked that I'm doing it.

Timberline 04-08-2013 11:24 AM

I believe the answer to question 1 is a Pitman Arm Puller. Check Harbor Freight.

Here is a vid that I found on removin the steering wheel. Only bad part is it appears he has already removed the airbag prior to filming. Still may be a little helpful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLY5...nofeather=True

** appears he has another vid on removing the airbag, so just check his channel.**

Sinister6 04-08-2013 12:34 PM

Brian, could your gas tank/ shock rubbing because the skid plate is loose?

BrianTG 04-08-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinister6 (Post 3609503)
Brian, could your gas tank/ shock rubbing because the skid plate is loose?

It's actually not hitting the skid. I'll get a picture.

BrianTG 04-08-2013 12:42 PM

Attachment 233403



Attachment 233404

It's catching on the seam on the top it seems.

sevenservices 04-08-2013 12:46 PM

be careful w/that pitman arm and have an acetaline torch near by to heat it up if need be. We ended up braking a nice MATCO puller, then the second puller broke and shot a bolt across the garage like a bullet. Eventually with another puller, a little patience and a lot of heat we were able to get it off.

As well, the new pitman arms take a few to wear into the splines. 50-100 miles or so after installing it, re-torque it and make sure the pitman arm does not rock on the splines. If it rocks on the splines after driving for awhile then pull the nut, add a big washer and re-torque it. Loose pitmans are a big cause for steering wheel play back and forth before grabbing.

BrianTG 04-08-2013 01:07 PM

I forgot that many of you don't wheel with me. I'm what I'd call an amateur. So the idea of putting a torch on anything hasn't crossed my mind.

Will I need a new pitman arm if all I need to change is the steering box?

Justin04Lj 04-08-2013 01:12 PM

No you just need to get the old one off to reuse on your new steering box.

Colo-TJ 04-08-2013 01:13 PM

the shock has probably slid off the upper pin mount. I put these on mine to keep it from happening. Bad design is the culprit. but these will fix it for good.
JKS Part 9606 - Bar Pin Adapters

BrianTG 04-08-2013 01:18 PM

Justin: k

Chad: you damn well know I can't weld. Nor do I know anyone who can/will.

Really don't want to have to take it to a shop.

Colo-TJ 04-08-2013 01:29 PM

Sorry.posted the wrong one.
It bolts on in the same place your Bar Pin is bolted now.
http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/me...ory_Code=Shock
check to make sure but I bet the Bushings at the top of your shocks are off

Colo-TJ 04-08-2013 01:35 PM

P/n 9604

BrianTG 04-08-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Colo-TJ (Post 3609752)
Sorry.posted the wrong one.
It bolts on in the same place your Bar Pin is bolted now.
http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/me...ory_Code=Shock
check to make sure but I bet the Bushings at the top of your shocks are off

And how would I check if they were?

Colo-TJ 04-08-2013 01:41 PM

look at the very top of your shock. There should be a rubber bushing sticking out of both sides of the hole in the top of the shock. you will know

sevenservices 04-08-2013 01:49 PM

give it a shot for sure, you can use your old pitman arm. I just know they can be a bugger to get off sometimes. Heck, if its that bad you can always toss it with the steering box and get a new pitman for the new box.

Colo-TJ 04-08-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianTG (Post 3609796)
And how would I check if they were?

Bad....
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8e0aa407.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psc53f059e.jpg

BrianTG 04-08-2013 02:02 PM

Attachment 233450

It looks fine. Ed and I put these shocks on under six months ago. I guess I'm not understanding this. I feel like the shock is fine. It's just rubbing. So would what you suggested just slightly relocate the shock?

Goofyjumper 04-08-2013 03:38 PM

Pitman Arm: The day before you go to remove it, spray liberal amounts of PB Blaster on it. As you are removing it with the puller tool (available for rent from many auto parts stores) strike the pitman arm with a hammer on the steering blox flange end. This will help free it if it is sticking to the shaft.

Rear Shock: You might want to check to see if your rear axle is still centered under the jeep. Over time springs settle and when that happens the rear trackbar will have to be adjusted to re-center the axle and get everything to line up again. If your axle is off center, it can cause parts to rub that would not otherwise be close to each other. You should fix the rubbing issue ASAP because it would be easy to rupture your fuel tank.

Good Luck!

BrianTG 04-08-2013 03:47 PM

I think that's a larger part of it. How can I check that the axle is centered.

Goofyjumper 04-08-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianTG (Post 3610295)
I think that's a larger part of it. How can I check that the axle is centered.

While parked on flat ground your tires should stick out an equal distance on each side.

You can measure the distance from the inside of the tire/rim to the frame. Should be the same distance on each side.

Sinister6 04-11-2013 10:44 AM

How are things coming Brian?

BrianTG 04-11-2013 11:31 AM

Workin like a madman.

I'm on vacation next week so was hoping to do work on the jeep mon-weds. However I'm starting to lean towards the idea of having a shop do the work while the wife and I are in Cali thurs-Monday. Still super hesitant on doing the work unsupervised.

Although on the bright side the wobble is completely gone and no steering stabilizer. :)

Sinister6 04-11-2013 11:33 AM

Nice on the steering.

What do you have to do yet?

BrianTG 04-11-2013 11:36 AM

Steering skid off, steering gear box swap, skid back on.

Clock spring but that can and will wait. Extra cash is going to the vacation so my wife says.

I measured the axle and it seems to be centered. So I'm chalking the rub from the shock up to general sway in the rear. Due to the weird linkage in the back I've got a lotta sway.

Sinister6 04-11-2013 12:02 PM

You can do that....take your time. Spray everything with PB Blaster couple days ahead...

Sinister6 04-12-2013 08:27 AM

So Brian....you gonna try steering box yourself?


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