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Bamyrick226 04-15-2013 06:30 PM

Synergy starter suspension system
 
I came accross this 2 inch lift from Synergy and am wondering if anyone has any experience or advice with this brand. I was looking at Teraflex but did not want to go much over the 2.5 inch lift. Synergy looks to have a 2 inch lift that may fit my needs. Any advice or comments welcome. Trying to stay away from changing OEM part under the Jeep but still have a suspension lift at a decent price.

onetraveller 04-15-2013 10:42 PM

One of the magazines did an install of their advanced kit and loved it. However, they seem to love anyone who springs for an ad.

I have seen reports that the 2 inch springs can give 3-4 inches of lift. Otherwise the quality is supposed to be very good.

They offer a set of 1 inch springs for the 4 doors that reportedly give closer to the 2 inches you are looking for. They might be willing to swap the springs if you call them.

Mike

river2c 04-15-2013 11:28 PM

Synergy makes top quality lifts and components. If you only want 2", get a coil spacer lift. Any other 2" coil lift will give you much more than 2" unless you have a lot of aftermarket heavy weight accessories.

Bamyrick226 04-16-2013 06:27 PM

Going over 2 inches isn't a problem I just do not want drive shaft issues. Also I am running 35's do I don't want them to look small. Spoke with rock krawler today they seem to be pretty good. I really don't want a spacer lift, I've just heard spring are better. I also wanna run fox shox withy set up. After hearing this, any suggestions?

kjeeper10 04-16-2013 06:43 PM

Synergy is fantastic. They offer specific springs for 2 door 4 door. I wouldn't worry about "too much" lift with Synergy coils.

roxbury29 04-25-2013 06:23 PM

I just installed Synergy 2" springs in the front ( wanted to elliminate the 2" leveling spacer, and shock brackets ) also installed bilstein 5100 shocks all the way around.

The Synergy progressive springs, and Bilstein Shocks are awesome.
Synergy guy told me the 2" springs are 2" after all mods( new bumpers,winch,etc )

I still have stock bumper and it lifted the front just over 3".
might have to do something to the rear springs now..

but the ride and handling is much better than stock

Bamyrick226 04-25-2013 08:35 PM

Hey man thanks for the update. 3 inches wouldnt be too bad. i am thinking of changing out the drive shaft any way now just so i dont have to worry about it. is that something you think you will have to do?

roxbury29 04-25-2013 08:40 PM

So far it seems ok. I just installed them last night. I just didn't think it was going to lift it that much. But the ride is soo much better than stock.

I just have to see how it looks with the hardtop off, to figure out what to do with the back. I have a few ideas in mind :)

Bamyrick226 04-25-2013 08:45 PM

is getting the same synergy rear something your thinking about? and how was the install?

roxbury29 04-25-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamyrick226 (Post 3683500)
is getting the same synergy rear something your thinking about? and how was the install?

1st. This weekend, I am going to remove the hardtop and take a better look on level ground.
and I am guessing it will still be a little too low in the back.
I still have the AEV spacers in the rear, was considering getting the
1-2" (8063-10) synergy progressive coils for the back along with the AEV rear spacers.

or putting back the oem isolators back on in the back(if I can find them in my garage ) :) and just getting the matching 2-3" (8063-20)synergy coil springs..

I think I am going to end up getting the 1"-2" synergy rear springs and leave the AEV larger spacers on the back...

The front was kinda pain, but I had access to a lift in my brothers pole barn which helped. it took some effort to get the new front springs in.,
Overall, it took 3 hours ( with BS'ing ) installing 4 shocks and new front springs.

Jared66 04-25-2013 09:57 PM

I have a 3 inch stage 1.5 lift with blistien shocks. It's awesome. Love it. Goo quality. The reason people say a 1 inch lift actually has shock that are more like 2 ect. Is because their shocks are designed with the idea that you'll have after market bumpers on ect. So at the end of your build. And with regular sag. If you got a 3 inch lift. It sags and settles to 3 inches. Either way. Great product.

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 04:20 AM

Yep, I talked to Dave "pig" and with a light rear he recommended 3" front and 2" rear. I've seen some rigs with 3"/4" coils all around with some rake still. I want to stay around 3-3.5" but go progressive all around.

Bamyrick226 04-26-2013 07:07 AM

I hear you will get about 3 with this kit with no heavy aftermarket parts. I have a spare on the back now and like the way it sits. I may end up just getting the 2 inch coils all around. Now I just need to find out what size shocks this would fit.

roxbury29 04-26-2013 07:54 AM

I think since synergy springs are based on modifications. I will end getting the 1-2" (8063-10) springs for the back to keep it level. I can try it with the oem isolators or 1" one's. hoping I can just leave the AEV 1" isolators in and it doesnt raise the back too much..

Also, if I use a soft top in the summer. maybe with the hardtop off it will level itself. that I am going to check tonight or tomorrow morning.

talked to the Synergy rep . he confirmed the specs on their springs are based on heavy modifications.

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by roxbury29 (Post 3685114)
I think since synergy springs are based on modifications. I will end getting the 1-2" (8063-10) springs for the back to keep it level. I can try it with the oem isolators or 1" one's. hoping I can just leave the AEV 1" isolators in and it doesnt raise the back too much..

Also, if I use a soft top in the summer. maybe with the hardtop off it will level itself. that I am going to check tonight or tomorrow morning.

talked to the Synergy rep . he confirmed the specs on their springs are based on heavy modifications.

Most are .. Some more then others depending on their rate.

roxbury29 04-26-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3685124)
Most are .. Some more then others depending on their rate.

^ thanks, I should have confirmed that before I got the front springs. I would have ordered the 1-2" one instead. now I have to lift the back higher.. at least thats what I am telling my wife.


I'll post pictures with and without the hardtop soon

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by roxbury29 (Post 3685170)

^ thanks, I should have confirmed that before I got the front springs. I would have ordered the 1-2" one instead. now I have to lift the back higher.. at least thats what I am telling my wife.

I'll post pictures with and without the hardtop soon

The hard top removed raised my back side 1/4" or so with TF springs.

roxbury29 04-26-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3685252)
The hard top removed raised my back side 1/4" or so with TF springs.

^ only 1/4", crap. was hoping for close to 3/4"

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by roxbury29 (Post 3685280)

^ only 1/4", crap. was hoping for close to 3/4"

Meh... Hard top is not all that heavy. 100-150 lbs or so. Maybe more on a 4 door.

jkristie44 04-26-2013 09:03 AM

I ran the 3 inch front, 2 inch rear coils on my old 4 door. Sat pretty level. Best lift out there IMO. Plus you can always build on to it later.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6105/6...beb87f0b_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6051/6...291e9939_b.jpg

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jkristie44 (Post 3685318)
I ran the 3 inch front, 2 inch rear coils on my old 4 door. Sat pretty level. Best lift out there IMO. Plus you can always build on to it later.

What size tires in the pic ?

Bamyrick226 04-26-2013 01:05 PM

How difficult is it to add a front track bar

Bamyrick226 04-26-2013 01:06 PM

Cont. after the initial springs are installed? I always hear you can add these lift parts later just don't know how difficult it actually is

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 01:22 PM

Unbolt stock and install aftermarket.
It may take a couple try's getting the axle perfectly center, overall its pretty easy.

I recommend the TF monster TB. The adjuster is the same as your stock drag link. Centering the body to the axle is done my turning the turn buckle.
Most TB's you have to remove one side and turn to lengthen/shorten.

roxbury29 04-26-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkristie44 (Post 3685318)
I ran the 3 inch front, 2 inch rear coils on my old 4 door. Sat pretty level. Best lift out there IMO. Plus you can always build on to it later.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6105/6...beb87f0b_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6051/6...291e9939_b.jpg

^ looks great.
I talked to the synergy rep. he said that was the best way to level a jeep.
either the 3" in front and 2" rear.

I have to order the rear springs today!

Bamyrick226 04-26-2013 04:52 PM

i dont have much weight on the front and dont want the front higher. should i go with 2 inch all around and see how it looks first? i would not want to go 3 inches up front and have it way to high.

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamyrick226 (Post 3687001)
i dont have much weight on the front and dont want the front higher. should i go with 2 inch all around and see how it looks first? i would not want to go 3 inches up front and have it way to high.

How about 2's front and 1's rear ?

I am thinking that should get you 2-2.5"

Bamyrick226 04-26-2013 06:31 PM

well i have a hard top and spare tire and it kinda looks level now. i may do a winch eventually just not now. just do not want the front higher. i guess i could change out the rear if it didnt work out. thats just more installation time. id like to do it once and leave it

roxbury29 04-26-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3687124)
How about 2's front and 1's rear ?

I am thinking that should get you 2-2.5"

^ that should work to, thanks!
I had just installed the 2's in the front which gave me 3" lift in the front
and just ordered the 1's for the back, synergy said it will give me 2" in the back ( with stock isolators )

I origiannly thought I could just use the 2's in the front and spacers in the back, that didn't quite work.

kjeeper10 04-26-2013 06:57 PM

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