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mhanksii 04-16-2013 09:20 AM

rear track bar help
 
Ok, so I bought a 2.5" teraflex BB that came with a rear track bar drop bracket that attached to the frame end of the track bar. That bracket didn't live through my offroad terror and now needs to be replaced. I bought Rock Krawler bomb proof rear track bar but failed :doh: to see that it requires the Rock Krawler rear track bar bracket. :facepalm:

Does this bracket make it "bomb proof" and reinforce the axel end of the track bar or is it completely neccesary for installtion?
JK Bomb Proof Rear Track Bar and Bracket#

XTRyan 04-16-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mhanksii (Post 3643203)
Ok, so I bought a 2.5" teraflex BB that came with a rear track bar drop bracket that attached to the frame end of the track bar. That bracket didn't live through my offroad terror and now needs to be replaced. I bought Rock Krawler bomb proof rear track bar but failed :doh: to see that it requires the Rock Krawler rear track bar bracket. :facepalm:

Does this bracket make it "bomb proof" and reinforce the axel end of the track bar or is it completely neccesary for installtion?
JK Bomb Proof Rear Track Bar and Bracket#

That bracket is actually required to make the heim joint end of the trackbar fit. The factory trackbar bracket doesn't have a large enough opening to accommodate the size of the hiem joint.

Also it does strengthen the track bar mounting point because it's made form 1/4" steel rather than the flimsy factory mount.

Let me know if you have any other questions. I hope this helps!

-Zach

SilverSport 04-16-2013 10:46 AM

Requires welding.

mhanksii 04-16-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeTerrain (Post 3643408)

That bracket is actually required to make the heim joint end of the trackbar fit. The factory trackbar bracket doesn't have a large enough opening to accommodate the size of the hiem joint.

Also it does strengthen the track bar mounting point because it's made form 1/4" steel rather than the flimsy factory mount.

Let me know if you have any other questions. I hope this helps!

-Zach

That answers that. I guess I'm waiting another 3-6weeks for shipping on the bracket. Man reading the details really helps every now and then

SilverSport 04-16-2013 11:57 AM

Have you considered the Teraflex bracket that bolts to the axle and also strengthens the axle mount?

Teraflex 1954777 - TeraFlex Rear Trackbar Bracket for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 2-6" Lift - Quadratec

Garyk 04-16-2013 12:01 PM

Instead of waiting 3-6 weeks, make your own....cut the stock one off, duplicate it with 1/4" plate steel but make it big enough to accommodate the new trac bar..

kjeeper10 04-16-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 3643682)
Have you considered the Teraflex bracket that bolts to the axle and also strengthens the axle mount?

Teraflex 1954777 - TeraFlex Rear Trackbar Bracket for 07-13 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 2-6" Lift - Quadratec

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The Rk mount requires welding whereas the TF mount does not. I don't know if its required to run the RK TB. I have a RK rear but its not installed.

A rear bracket raises roll center.

mhanksii 04-16-2013 04:56 PM

Will the terra flex bracket work with the rock krawler track bar?

SilverSport 04-17-2013 12:16 AM

With the TF bracket you won't need the RK TB.

kjeeper10 04-17-2013 01:03 AM

He's correct. For centering duties, you may not need it.
For strength and a better performing TB. Maybe.

I have a brand new RK track bar that's sitting in my garage. The axle is pretty close to center given the multiple adjustment holes.

mhanksii 04-17-2013 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3643727)

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The Rk mount requires welding whereas the TF mount does not. I don't know if its required to run the RK TB. I have a RK rear but its not installed.

A rear bracket raises roll center.

Kjeeper you have the terra flex bracket on your jeep now? Are you planning to add the RK TB to the terra flex bracket? I saw the terra flex bracket isn't much more than the RK bracket....

Damn I'm lost on this one...

kjeeper10 04-17-2013 04:35 AM

Not sure. I can take a look for you. Grab a measurement or something ?

XTRyan 04-17-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mhanksii (Post 3646868)
Kjeeper you have the terra flex bracket on your jeep now? Are you planning to add the RK TB to the terra flex bracket? I saw the terra flex bracket isn't much more than the RK bracket....

Damn I'm lost on this one...

It really comes down to if you want to do the welding to install the RK bracket. If the Teraflex Bracket allows for the RK track bar then that's the way I would go.

We carry the Teraflex Bracket as well, and looking at the Install Instructions, it seems like you could have it on in about a half hour.

Let me know if you have any other questions. I'll be happy to help!

-Zach

mhanksii 04-17-2013 09:50 AM

The whole goal was to eliminate the drop bracket on the frame side of the track bar and recenter the rear diff after the 2.5" tera flex BB.
Can I achieve that with the stock TB and teraflex bracket?

kjeeper10 04-17-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mhanksii (Post 3647444)
The whole goal was to eliminate the drop bracket on the frame side of the track bar and recenter the rear diff after the 2.5" tera flex BB.
Can I achieve that with the stock TB and teraflex bracket?

Yep

The drop bracket will do nothing for geometry. TF Only offers the drop bracket in their BB's now.
I will check it out for you later.

Edit ... Make sure you get the bracket with multiple locations. I believe there is a 1 - 2 and 3 hole.

kjeeper10 04-17-2013 09:58 AM

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Here is a pic I have

SilverSport 04-17-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mhanksii (Post 3646868)
Kjeeper you have the terra flex bracket on your jeep now? Are you planning to add the RK TB to the terra flex bracket? I saw the terra flex bracket isn't much more than the RK bracket....

Damn I'm lost on this one...

Don't feel lost. The TF bracket has multiple holes depending on how much lift you have. It reinforces the axle mount, helps recenter the axle, and puts the roll center back close to stock. With the TF bracket you could return the RK trackbar and use the money saved towards another mod.

kjeeper10 04-25-2013 11:22 AM

RK track bar fits the TF bracket. I can take pics if anybody wants

mhanksii 04-25-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3681216)
RK track bar fits the TF bracket. I can take pics if anybody wants

I would like to see it. I want to run the RK bar on my jeep but like the teraflex bracket also and ordered it already

kjeeper10 04-25-2013 12:02 PM

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Barmanvarn 04-25-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3681354)
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Running reservoir shocks? Fancy pants. :)

kjeeper10 04-25-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Barmanvarn (Post 3681368)

Running reservoir shocks? Fancy pants. :)

High speed mall cruising :D

Barmanvarn 04-25-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3681390)

High speed mall cruising :D

Oh Kenny. You are a joker.

kjeeper10 04-25-2013 12:16 PM

Rofl.. They really do a great job on some of the roads here in CT. Stiffer ride but dampen well.

Barmanvarn 04-25-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 3681396)
Rofl.. They really do a great job on some of the roads here in CT. Stiffer ride but dampen well.

Yeah. Those speed bumps at the mall are pure hell. :rofl:

Silverton34 04-25-2013 12:28 PM

Ive always used 2.5" lifts on all three of my JKs and the Teraflex or equal rear axle mounting bracket. My JKs have been pretty much offroad machines and I have never been able to destroy a stock rear track bar. If I remember correctly they are a forged steel unit.


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