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tkagad 04-25-2013 02:59 PM

Soaked carpet?
 
Hey guys,

It was raining the past few days when I discovered that the carpet in the cargo area and the carpet in the rear seat footwells was soaking wet. I pulled the carpet and saw that there was a pool of water in the underlying tub.

At first I thought it was a clogged cowl tube but how could the trunk be wet too? I have a hard top and I don't think its leaking.

Does anyone have any insight on this? If I don't get it fixed right away, will there be lasting damage? I live on a college campus so I don't have a garage to work in.

Thanks!

InvisiblePants 04-25-2013 06:34 PM

Do you have a soft top. Could be leaking around the a pillar. Moisture in the rear is most likley the carpet wicking from the front to back.

Water Dog 04-25-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tkagad (Post 3682172)
Hey guys,


At first I thought it was a clogged cowl tube but how could the trunk be wet too? I have a hard top and I don't think its leaking.


Thanks!

^^:thumb: :rofl:

Have someone spray it with a hose while you watch from inside.

InvisiblePants 04-25-2013 06:51 PM

I really need to read more carefully when goofing off in class.

Chuck59 04-25-2013 08:27 PM

I have a hard top and am having the same issue. As I m investigating, I am beginning to think the water is coming thru a very small deformed part of the rubber seal on the hinge side where the rear gate / back glass come together. I have pulled the carpet at this point and have cut and placed a piece of cardboard back there. My thought is the cardboard will show better, the area that gets wet first and will lead me to the offending area for sure. Will let you know when I get my leak figured out.

Water Dog 04-25-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by InvisiblePants (Post 3682903)
I really need to read more carefully when goofing off in class.

Sorry, I couldn't resist...:rolleyes:

Water Dog 04-25-2013 08:59 PM

Is any of the sidewall carpet wet up high? If it isn't, it's probably either coming in at the back or if the Jeep's been closed up tight for a while, it could be condensation dripping from the inside of the top that originated on the front floor. But from your post, that doesn't sound likely.

JC_LJ 04-25-2013 09:28 PM

I noticed this too. I doubled checked everything, but came to the conclusion as Chuck, that along the tailgate there was a funky opening. I dried everything with a hair dryer for about an hour. I make sure to slam the gate shut hard every time I close it.

I was getting an awful rattle from the window not sealing shut when I originally bought it, so I bought some transmission line, sliced it down the center and curled it on the lip of the gate. No more window rattle, but I think it may have shut funny and let water through that one time. I've checked it after our last few rains and haven't seen any water.

tkagad 04-25-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck59 (Post 3683425)
I have a hard top and am having the same issue. As I m investigating, I am beginning to think the water is coming thru a very small deformed part of the rubber seal on the hinge side where the rear gate / back glass come together. I have pulled the carpet at this point and have cut and placed a piece of cardboard back there. My thought is the cardboard will show better, the area that gets wet first and will lead me to the offending area for sure. Will let you know when I get my leak figured out.

Are you getting water in the cargo area and in the rear passenger seat area? That's a good call on using cardboard to figure out the leak. Let me know!

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Originally Posted by Water Dog (Post 3683576)
Is any of the sidewall carpet wet up high? If it isn't, it's probably either coming in at the back or if the Jeep's been closed up tight for a while, it could be condensation dripping from the inside of the top that originated on the front floor. But from your post, that doesn't sound likely.

The sidewall carpet is completely dry. The jeep hasn't been closed up...I drive it everyday.

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Originally Posted by JC_LJ (Post 3683706)
I noticed this too. I doubled checked everything, but came to the conclusion as Chuck, that along the tailgate there was a funky opening. I dried everything with a hair dryer for about an hour. I make sure to slam the gate shut hard every time I close it.

Hmm...maybe I didn't close the tailgate hard enough...I didn't use a hair dryer though...I'm kind of letting it just dry on its own.

I was getting an awful rattle from the window not sealing shut when I originally bought it, so I bought some transmission line, sliced it down the center and curled it on the lip of the gate. No more window rattle, but I think it may have shut funny and let water through that one time. I've checked it after our last few rains and haven't seen any water.

I too have this window rattle...I wonder if that's related.

Wheats 04-26-2013 01:01 AM

I've been chasing my leak down,tried most of the recommended fixes and no luck. What I did find is that if I park facing upward even on a slight incline I don't get any water on the floor boards. I do know that it's leaking thru the seal where the top meets the tub.
One of these days I'll remove the top and reseal.

Grizzly-Chris 04-26-2013 01:02 AM

Tkagad,
like Chuck59 said it definitely sounds like the water is coming in from your rear window tailgate area.
Get some one to hose the back of your jeep with you sitting in the back, lift the side wall carpet which goes against the wheel arch and you may see the water flowing along the ridge in the wheel arch then it flows down into the rear seat footwell, the sidewall carpet will be dry on top.
My jeep use to fill with more water than my bath but now its bone dry, here's a link to a write up I did not saying its the answer to all leaks but it may help.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/sort...ep-210846.html

tkagad 04-26-2013 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly-Chris (Post 3684434)
Tkagad,
like Chuck59 said it definitely sounds like the water is coming in from your rear window tailgate area.
Get some one to hose the back of your jeep with you sitting in the back, lift the side wall carpet which goes against the wheel arch and you may see the water flowing along the ridge in the wheel arch then it flows down into the rear seat footwell, the sidewall carpet will be dry on top.
My jeep use to fill with more water than my bath but now its bone dry, here's a link to a write up I did not saying its the answer to all leaks but it may help.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/sort...ep-210846.html

Wow thank you! I am definitely going to try it this weekend! It seems like I'm having the same problem as you did.

flflash 04-26-2013 02:22 AM

Most TJ hardtop leaks come from the top center of the rear hatch. There's a moulding seam in the seal and once the hinges get a little wear the weatherstrip is no longer compressed enough to seal.
The watertest mentioned above should find this pretty quickly, to repair it you can remove the weatherstrip and place two sided tape behind it. The little extra thickness will provide the needed compression on the weatherstrip seal.

Grizzly-Chris 04-26-2013 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by flflash (Post 3684592)
Most TJ hardtop leaks come from the top center of the rear hatch. There's a moulding seam in the seal and once the hinges get a little wear the weatherstrip is no longer compressed enough to seal.
The watertest mentioned above should find this pretty quickly, to repair it you can remove the weatherstrip and place two sided tape behind it. The little extra thickness will provide the needed compression on the weatherstrip seal.

Fully agree,
I did similar and beefed up my weatherstrip that goes around the rear of the hardtop which seals the rear window, but I found the extra pressure pushing against the glass kept popping the rear window open, hence the reason I glued the extra rubber seal at the bottom of the rear window to hold the rear window tightly closed.

TJon13 04-26-2013 11:18 AM

I had a very similar leak--if parked uphill, there would little to no water along the rear edge of carpet in the cargo area. Downhill--one or both footwells soaked. Water was getting in along the top edge of the rear wiper gasket, and a crack in the plastic edge along the bottom of the window. Water was trickling down the inside of the window/tailgate, and running along the ridges in the floor, right intoto the footwells. i sealed the problem areas with clear silicone, and the problem is solved.

Dep863 05-03-2013 03:36 AM

Who needs carpet? Yank it all out and pull a drain plug occassionally!!

tkagad 05-04-2013 11:23 AM

I think I managed to fix the leak. The water was coming from the rear window, right about the tail gate, as many of you suggested. I fixed the seal and nothing got wet during our last rain :)

Thanks everyone!

Medic538 01-31-2014 12:23 PM

Noted when I close the doors with the windows shut the over pressure pops the rear window out at the hinge side of the door. Get exhaust gas through the gap also. Until I replace the seal I open the window slightly before closing the door, else I have to go back and hold the window on the bottom right corner as I close the door.


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