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JeepGuy94 04-25-2013 08:59 PM

HID kits?
 
I know there's a thread on all things lighting for jeeps but I just wanted a quick response. As anyone gotten a HID kit for high/low beams and fog light on their wrangler unlimited? I was looking to investing in some and wanted to get some real responses about them. Let me know what color and size you got and what website you ordered from. Thanks:dance:

GeckoJK 04-26-2013 09:29 PM

The JK needs H13 bulbs, a relay harness, and a set of capacitors due to the Canbus system. I have been considering the XenonDepot Xtreme bi-xenon kit.

Xtreme Digital HID Kits

These are the capacitors:
CANBUS Fix

I have heard great things about these kits and way cheaper than upgrading to JW Speakers. I would go with either the 4300k or 5000k most likely.

wrumley 04-27-2013 10:54 AM

i put them in my 2013 sahara unlimited. all you need is h13 for the hi/low, low being the hid and high halogen unless you go xenon and you need the warning capacitors. for the fog lights you need a 5202 and capacitors you don't need the wiring harness i have it and dont use it no need.

im running h13 low hid/high halogen 8000k and fog 5202 bulb 4300k
i hope that helps the site i use is hidkitwarehouse.com

JeepGuy94 04-28-2013 10:46 AM

Awesome! Thank y'all for the replies! Do y'all have any pictures?

GeckoJK 04-28-2013 11:07 AM

I havent bought a kit yet but when I do and get it installed I will post pics.

HK_Runner 04-28-2013 03:15 PM

The latest version of the Trucklites look really good. While I research this same thing, I will probably install two of those LED D2 driving lights.

asianhulk 04-28-2013 04:06 PM

I was considering getting the Mopar Specific HID's from TRS. About 180.00

Mopar Specific: Morimoto Elite HID System - HID Systems from The Retrofit Source Inc

Flynn 04-29-2013 08:30 AM

I know Joe did both Headlight and Fogs

JKwrangler11 <-

yomondo 04-29-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepGuy94 (Post 3683575)
I know there's a thread on all things lighting for jeeps but I just wanted a quick response. As anyone gotten a HID kit for high/low beams and fog light on their wrangler unlimited? I was looking to investing in some and wanted to get some real responses about them. Let me know what color and size you got and what website you ordered from. Thanks:dance:

Here. Done on a 2-door, but shouldn't make any difference for your 4-door.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/rep...ml#post3459710

crawlin_archer 04-29-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by yomondo (Post 3695811)
Here. Done on a 2-door, but shouldn't make any difference for your 4-door.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/rep...ml#post3459710

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Originally Posted by yomondo (Post 3695811)
Despite what many people say about the stock housings not being designed for HID lights, I find that they do a pretty good job of controlling the light in regard to blinding oncoming drivers.

Yes they do do a good job of blinding oncoming drivers.
There is a nice website that talks about HID lights & how they work & what they do. Theres even a link to it in the 1st post of the "
The Official JK Aftermarket Lighting Thread (HID, HALO, Fog, Etc..)
here it is in case some folks missed it Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
If you are going to do HIDs you need to do it right. Do a retrofit & use HID projectors or get someoen to do it for you. I know you people have been blinded by all the jacked up Dodge & Ford & Chevy trucks with HIDs in their headlights & fog lights glaring & blinding you. I know I can't stand that crap & I did a retrofit so I wasn';t " that guy "

yomondo 04-30-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crawlin_archer (Post 3696810)
Quote:

Originally Posted by yomondo (Post 3459710)
Despite what many people say about the stock housings not being designed for HID lights, I find that they do a pretty good job of controlling the light in regard to blinding oncoming drivers.

Yes they do do a good job of blinding oncoming drivers.
There is a nice website that talks about HID lights & how they work & what they do. Theres even a link to it in the 1st post of the "
The Official JK Aftermarket Lighting Thread (HID, HALO, Fog, Etc..)
here it is in case some folks missed it Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
If you are going to do HIDs you need to do it right. Do a retrofit & use HID projectors or get someoen to do it for you. I know you people have been blinded by all the jacked up Dodge & Ford & Chevy trucks with HIDs in their headlights & fog lights glaring & blinding you. I know I can't stand that crap & I did a retrofit so I wasn';t " that guy "

If you've been blinded by other people's aftermarket HID headlights perhaps theirs were adjusted too high. I speak from personal experience, and my headlights do not light up other cars' windows or side-view mirrors when on level ground. I've never been flashed by other drivers. I've driven behind cops and passed cops on the other side of the road many times. No problems.

crawlin_archer 05-01-2013 08:07 AM

If HIDs work in reflector housings why don't car makers install them from the factory.

asianhulk 05-01-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by crawlin_archer (Post 3705274)
If HIDs work in reflector housings why don't car makers install them from the factory.

My 2005 Subaru STI had HID in reflector housings, 2013 Forester touring also has them in reflector housings as well. So I know that Subaru has them and still uses them. But, their headlights are also mounted lower than the Wranglers.

crawlin_archer 05-01-2013 09:19 AM

Subaru has a unique housing that they developed that uses serrations in the reflector to cut glare & it has autoleveling IIRC. And their HID housing is not the same as their halogen housing on the same model car. Does anyone even read the Daniel Stern lighting link that is posted in the JK HID thread?

asianhulk 05-01-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crawlin_archer (Post 3705473)
Subaru has a unique housing that they developed that uses serrations in the reflector to cut glare & it has autoleveling IIRC. And their HID housing is not the same as their halogen housing on the same model car. Does anyone even read the Daniel Stern lighting link that is posted in the JK HID thread?

Yeah I read it, its a good read, it really is. It really explains why you should never put HID bulbs in a standard reflector housing. A true retrofit with projectors would be ideal but for some, it is not cost effective. I see what your saying though.

Oh, speaking of HID kits, check your PM :p

asianhulk 05-04-2013 05:06 AM

After looking at the h13 bulb more closely it appears that high beam is just lighting up both filaments inside the bulb making it brighter. Some bulbs have different placed filaments, one lower, one higher to bounce off the reflectors but it seems the h13 bulbs the filaments are almost side by side.

So, an unofficial experiment would be to use your high beams with your beam lowered would give you a pretty good idea what 4300k hids would look like.

I think this would cause too much glare, so no HID kit for me, unless I want to put a projector in there.

Godholio 05-04-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by asianhulk (Post 3705599)
Yeah I read it, its a good read, it really is. It really explains why you should never put HID bulbs in a standard reflector housing. A true retrofit with projectors would be ideal but for some, it is not cost effective. I see what your saying though.

They're also not legal in the US, whether you've been caught or not. DOT stamped bulbs and housings are tested as a unit and get the stamp because they meet the requirements. These cheap bulbs don't. Some halogen housings work better than others with certain bulbs, and some combinations don't even blind oncoming traffic. But for every situation like that there are a hundred others that are terrible and dangerous.

I don't understand why people are willing to go the illegal and possibly unsafe route with headlights just because it's cheaper. How many of you would do that with a suspension lift? Or get the cheapest tires you can?

I agree doing it right is expensive. That's why I'm saving my money for a set of TruckLites. The OE headlights are awful but A-I'm not a douche and B-my state has annual inspections so non-DOT bulbs are an instant fail.

asianhulk 05-05-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Godholio (Post 3718929)
I don't understand why people are willing to go the illegal and possibly unsafe route with headlights just because it's cheaper. How many of you would do that with a suspension lift? Or get the cheapest tires you can?

I agree doing it right is expensive. That's why I'm saving my money for a set of TruckLites. The OE headlights are awful but A-I'm not a douche and B-my state has annual inspections so non-DOT bulbs are an instant fail.

Not trying to turn this into a debate but lending a point of view...
LED's may not be the best option for everyone, it is an known fact that the OEM lighting in the jk is far from great.

I cannot speak for everyone from every state but I have never been pulled over for HID's except when an officer thought they were incorrectly aimed.

The law can be a funny thing, so many ways for interpretations. Federally marijuana possession is illegal but in Alaska, you are allowed to possess a small amount in you DWELLING as long as you don't buy it, sell it, grow it or let it leave your house (how it got there? I dunno, always refer to those as "marijuana fairies").

Not saying break the law but I will say every state has laws in place and it is up to those to enforce city, county, state etc. If it were me, I would check your local regulation and laws because local cops will pull you over before a federal officer for tint/hid's. Why I am no longer wanting HID's? because I believe the stock jk housing is not a great prospect for hid's based on many factors. Safety should be your number one priority! BUT NEVER forget, if you BLIND other drivers with your lights, they may not be able to see the roan in front of them and cross the center line causing you to go into the ditch. Now if you violate the law, you are taking a gamble. An officer cannot violate your 4th amendment for no reason. And if he/she does, it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen and/or their job on the line. :thumb:

JeepGuy94 06-28-2013 08:39 AM

So do I need to get a special housing or can I use the factory housing for HID bulbs? I have my headlights in and was going to install it after work

yomondo 06-28-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepGuy94 (Post 3907861)
So do I need to get a special housing or can I use the factory housing for HID bulbs? I have my headlights in and was going to install it after work

As you can read above and on many other threads, there's no end to the debate over that. Since you've already got the bulbs, why not install them and judge for yourself?


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