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JandS 04-26-2013 12:57 AM

Fun per dollar: Does any vehicle beat a Jeep Wrangler?
 
My first vehicle was a 1971 CJ5, which I still miss. I then transitioned to 2 TJs and now our Rubi. One thing has been constant among all my Jeeps - they are simply a joy to drive.

There is no substitute for a doorless and topless Jeep. Sure, there are other convertibles and there are faster convertibles, but none of them can compare to the Wrangler on the streets. Nothing else offers the "feel" of the road and wind when the doors and top are off the Wrangler.

You can make an argument for the Corvette, Viper, GTR, and Exige being the most "fun per dollar". All of them offer incredible performance relative to Euro "super cars" but quick/fast is a different type of party than the Wrangler offers.

Can anyone come up with a cheaper way to love driving this much?

RoadiJeff 04-26-2013 01:12 AM

I dunno...I get a whole lot of fun and excitement out of my 1-liter Honda sport bike. No doors or top on it, either. :D

For a little over $7k brand new it has a pretty decent fun per dollar ratio.

The Jeep is fun though. It's our first one and I'm looking forward to removing the hard top this summer.

scuba_steve 04-26-2013 01:28 AM

As far as "fun per dollar", I have to agree with the previous poster.

While I love Wranglers and have been behind the wheel of one for decades, the 8K that I dropped on my Yamaha R6 about ten years ago was probably the best value ever. The difference between it and prior bikes that I have owned was stark. Motorcycles are great fun in general, but owning a supersport bike is like having your own personal F-14 Tomcat.

Still not giving up my Wrangler though. ;)

indirocz28 04-26-2013 01:33 AM

I agree, bikes, road and dirt are a little more fun per dollar. However, the best all around would have to be a Wrangler.

st1264 04-26-2013 01:51 AM

I'm having a ton of fun in my Wrangler... everyone who rides in it is just blown away. Only went topless once (weather hasn't cooperated) but I'm sure more fun is on the way. Fun for the dollar = yes. Go anywhere adventure, convertible in the summer, best winter vehicle possible in cold regions. It's a win/win.

Find a great condition CJ, TJ for so little money... that might be your fun/price winner.

JandS 04-26-2013 01:54 AM

Good point on the sport bikes. If you're wanting to get the most speed per dollar, there is simply no comparison. A sport bike can easily embarrass $300,000 cars in a straight line.

Miser 04-26-2013 03:16 AM

For about 20 years I road two (2) wheelers, BSA, Triumph, Norton and several Harley's and they were a lot of fun. Next came my 1974 CJ5 Renegade, with a 304 v8, 3spd manual and warn locking hubs, LSD rear diff. Back then you ran tru-trac tires, that Jeep would go any place you pointed it, but it was really squirrely on highway at high speeds. Next I purchased a Polaris Ranger 700 and a Polaris RZR 800. Then I got a 2003 TJ Wrangler x, a great little Jeep and now the 2013 Rubicon. They all were and are a lot of fun. I am also looking forward to removing my hard top for the summer.
There are no words that can describe looking up at the sky as the wind hits you in the face as you wheel down the road, it is just great!!!

Omar Brannstrom 04-26-2013 04:31 AM

Hi from Sweden

Had a Suzuki Jimny before my Wrangler, not so cool as a Wrangler but cost half and have much better turningcircle than a Wrangler. Has become a popular overlanding vehicle in South Africa.

Sadly Suzuki do not put so much in to this model, have not changed so much under 14 years but cost half of a Wrangler and works like a baby Wrangler. The make them in Brazil and in Japan.

Here in Sweden Suzuki do not sell them anymore due to lack of ESP.

Some pictures

My former stock Jimny 2001 against my new 2012 wrangler

http://m4.i.pbase.com/g4/76/519276/2...4.0qFjATH4.jpg

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...3&d=1291887806

http://www.off-road-drive.ru/fi/2/pi...Image_0001.jpg

http://www.bestcarpic.com/images/suz....3-club-05.jpg

http://en.suzukiclub.cz/graphics/gal.../440_jimmy.jpg

Rent overlanding Jimny from South Africa with roof tent.

http://www.drivesouthafrica.co.za/im...o-camper_1.jpg

http://s2.glbimg.com/y9SFVLF5IdUOs80...ki_jimny_2.jpg

http://cdn1.automotobounce.com/pics/...club_06c6d.jpg

http://www.automobilsport.com/upload...-Breslau_1.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2339/2...e20e292497.jpg

TOK 04-26-2013 05:21 AM

That is really cool, Omar... The US got an older version of the Jimmy renamed Samurai in the mid 80's to early 90's. They went to the Sidekick (Escudo elsewhere according to Wikipedia) later, but I think it was only offered as a soft top for a couple of years.

Don't see many Samurai on the road, but still see some hardcore trail rigs. Still see Sidekicks a few times per week. Suzuki recently tried to come back into the US market with cars, but I think it pretty much failed.

TOK 04-26-2013 05:28 AM

Oops, Omar sidetracked me. ;)

My JK was in place of a motorcycle... I have ridden dirtbikes since I was 8, and streetbikes since I was old enough to have a license. It has gotten to the point where I'm no longer comfortable on the street. Traffic around me has become atrocious and every other person is dicking around on a cell phone instead of watching the road.

Maybe I'll get over it, but I felt like I had to be on such high alert while riding that it took most of the fun out of it. I still have a dirt bike, which I'll own until I'm too feeble to throw a leg over it!

Sebastian F7 04-26-2013 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JandS (Post 3684410)
Good point on the sport bikes. If you're wanting to get the most speed per dollar, there is simply no comparison. A sport bike can easily embarrass $300,000 cars in a straight line.

If its ridden properly it will embarrass them anywhere.

Scootsk 04-26-2013 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TOK (Post 3684715)
Oops, Omar sidetracked me. ;)

My JK was in place of a motorcycle... I have ridden dirtbikes since I was 8, and streetbikes since I was old enough to have a license. It has gotten to the point where I'm no longer comfortable on the street. Traffic around me has become atrocious and every other person is dicking around on a cell phone instead of watching the road.

Maybe I'll get over it, but I felt like I had to be on such high alert while riding that it took most of the fun out of it. I still have a dirt bike, which I'll own until I'm too feeble to throw a leg over it!

I'm with you. Too many distracted drivers. Driving a car wrapped with two tons of steel is dangerous enough on Long Island. In addition, you can't take your family on a bike. Wrangler=fun for all!

mcdull 04-26-2013 09:11 AM

It's totally very personal. I think my Miata is better fun per dollar than my JKU. I prefer driving twisty mountain roads than driving rough trails. And at least it takes me 12 seconds in holding down a button to open or close the hard top, it doesn't need 3 men to take off a 130lbs thing to get the open air (some probably will argue they can do it alone... I'd rather not to hurt myself)

SouthTJ 04-26-2013 09:55 AM

I had a 71 Olds 442 Convertible that was pretty damn fun too. I couldn't go off road but I had the wind in my hair and it got a lot of attention. I sold it and my daily driver and got a TJ 10 years ago and haven't looked back since. Love my Jeeps!

jadmt 04-26-2013 09:57 AM

MOTORCYCLE vs. SPORTSCAR vs. JET - Best Speed Contest Ever - YouTube

RoadiJeff 04-26-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scootsk (Post 3684817)
In addition, you can't take your family on a bike.

Of course you can. :D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ps4034fbcd.png

st1264 04-26-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff (Post 3685330)

One fat white dude or 9 Asians, you make the choice :hide: Imagine how many could fit in a JKU...

AUskier 04-26-2013 10:24 AM

So I'm going to go a different direction than comparing to a road vehicle. I've had my 1997 Ski Nautique for about 8 years now. Paid $16,500 for it in 2005. I could sell it today for $13,000 easy. Maybe even $14,500. It's given me a lot of joy over that eight years. I'll probably upgrade to a newer one when she hits about 20, so she's got several more years of joy in her.

Don't get me wrong. I love my wrangler, but I view them as pretty expensive.

panthermark 04-26-2013 11:41 AM

<--- Looks at avy.....

Tough call....

I love that I don't have go get geared up to drive the Jeep...but still.....


"A skittish motorbike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth, because of its logical extension of our faculties, and the hint, the provocation, to excess conferred by its honeyed untiring smoothness." -T.E. Lawrence

Commodore Perry 04-26-2013 12:07 PM

I had a Cayman S, most amazing car I've driven but with shi**y roads, traffic, speed limits you can't ever really enjoy it fully except at the track and never enough time for that. I sold it and I miss it sometimes but I honestly have more fun in the Jeep.

Jeeps_and_Boats 04-26-2013 12:38 PM

I rode the wheels off a BMX bike when I was 10. This was back in the day when the kids were booted from the house in the summer and told to be home by dinner. First real freedom.

Kids sadly cant do this anymore.

But I'm guessing the OP was thinking of vehicles since this is a Jeep forum. My first real car was a real POS, but it was mine! Woot!

And it had a big back seat.

onetraveller 04-26-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by panthermark (Post 3685689)
<--- Looks at avy.....

Tough call....

I love that I don't have go get geared up to drive the Jeep...but still.....


"A skittish motorbike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth, because of its logical extension of our faculties, and the hint, the provocation, to excess conferred by its honeyed untiring smoothness." -T.E. Lawrence

I love bikes, and have ridden them for over 25 years. However it is interesting that Lawrence died in a motorcycle accident.

Mike

live_slow 04-26-2013 12:50 PM

On four wheels, I don't know for sure (no Wrangler yet) but on the street an S2K (no longer made by Honda) or a Miata are very very high on the bang per buck scale. I often miss my AP2 S2K. On two wheels, I really dig the dual-sport/enduro/Dakkar/motard style bikes and was really considering going back to motorcycles. But, nope. Going for the JK for now.

i82much 04-26-2013 01:41 PM

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TW200. I am pretty sure you cannot get any more fun per dollar out of anything with a license plate.

jimbot 04-26-2013 02:10 PM

On dry land? No

mcdull 04-26-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by live_slow (Post 3685949)
On four wheels, I don't know for sure (no Wrangler yet) but on the street an S2K (no longer made by Honda) or a Miata are very very high on the bang per buck scale. I often miss my AP2 S2K. On two wheels, I really dig the dual-sport/enduro/Dakkar/motard style bikes and was really considering going back to motorcycles. But, nope. Going for the JK for now.

I think the BRZ (FRS or GT86) is a good alternative to S2K, though they're less hp, they are cheaper and probably better handling and overall. If they finally come out with the convertible, I might be in.

KC_Hawker 04-26-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by i82much (Post 3686146)
TW200. I am pretty sure you cannot get any more fun per dollar out of anything with a license plate.

I want one of these to go with my jk. Now the big question is, can a factory hitch carrier on a 2 door hold a TW200?

johnnyjellybean 04-26-2013 04:50 PM

Fun per dollar??..............yes .... an HD twin cam......... but the Wrangler is a CLOSE 2nd

i82much 04-26-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Hawker (Post 3686783)
I want one of these to go with my jk. Now the big question is, can a factory hitch carrier on a 2 door hold a TW200?

The factory hitch can hold a single rail motorcycle carrier with a TW200 on it, if that's what you mean. A little open utility trailer with a ramp is a lot easier and a lot less risk of scratching your Jeep. Love my T-dub.

michiganadam 04-26-2013 05:24 PM

Street legal dirtbikes beat it.....mostly on the dollar part. 6000 for a brand new top of the line one. 200 for a bottom of the line beater......you can get them registetrd for street use pretty easy here...

Jeeps are expensive. Even the beater will be after you start modding it. 30 grand for a new one.

Jeeps are a lot more useful. And you can get a beater cj with a small block chevy and 33s for 2500. ;)


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