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Chupacabra Babb 04-26-2013 02:27 PM

Noob lift questions
 
Howdy, guys!

So, I'm a first time TJ owner. A first time wrangler owner, for that matter, and I am gonna lift this little puppy. I just don't know what all to do. I've got a couple of lifts in mind, but I'm not sure what else I'll need with all the upward movements and larger rubber and whatnot. The 2 I like are Rancho and Skyjacker in the 3.5-4" range so I can stick some 35's under it.

So... Which of the 2 is the better lift? What else do I need? Hit me with all the brutal details. I'm new to the upward game, but I've done the downward game before. I understand most of the parts, so be as technical as you please. If I don't know what you're talking about, I have heard of the Internet before, and I'll look it up.

Thanks, jeepers!

thgr8alex 04-26-2013 02:31 PM

Whats your price range? Because a 4 inch lift and all the necessities it requires and the 35s and all the upgrades to run those can be very pricey.
I would do some searches here on the forum about running 35s and the stuff for 4 inch lifts and see if thats something you want to do. Its quite a bit of work

Dextreme 04-26-2013 02:39 PM

You really should plan on 4" springs and 1" Body if you plan to run the stock fenders/flares with 35". I would also not go with cheapo Chinese made lifts because 35's put a lot of strain on metal, joints, and bushings.

Reznor 04-26-2013 02:40 PM

As Alex said, what you're going to need for a 4 inch lift and 35's will cost you. With 3.5-4 you might get away with a transfer case drop to eliminate vibes, but might need an SYE setup - especially if you get closer to 4. With 35's you're certainly going to need a better gearset, as well as strengthening/replacing your D35 if not your front D30 as well.

All-in, parts alone, you're looking at a few thousand.

If you're ok with not being so gung ho and want a 3" lift with 33" tires, it will end up costing you significantly less. Like... maybe 1/3 of the price?

Chupacabra Babb 04-26-2013 02:43 PM

I wanna do wider flares and I will do wheel spacers if necessary. Are you saying that the skyjacker and Rancho kits are cheap and Chinese? Just curious. I'm willing to drop the scratch to make this thing safe and strong as well as tall, so hit me with any suggestions. Oh, and Dextreme, we have the same toy. '99 chili pepper.

Chupacabra Babb 04-26-2013 02:45 PM

Well... 3 and 33's is pretty good too. Especially if I can save the dollars to dump into other stuff to make it a cutie.

1998saharaarmyreplica 04-26-2013 02:49 PM

I just stuck a 4 inch on my tj.... After 7 hours and some change it was done. 4 inches turned into 5 but it will sink. I lost 5th with 33s with 3.77 gears. I wanna do a 1 inch BL in the cing months and put 35s under it but I had to change nothing for a 4 inch yet..... No vibes no shift problems 4 hi low everything works check out my profile pic for before and afters

Chupacabra Babb 04-26-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1998saharaarmyreplica (Post 3686392)
I just stuck a 4 inch on my tj.... After 7 hours and some change it was done. 4 inches turned into 5 but it will sink. I lost 5th with 33s with 3.77 gears. I wanna do a 1 inch BL in the cing months and put 35s under it but I had to change nothing for a 4 inch yet..... No vibes no shift problems 4 hi low everything works check out my profile pic for before and afters

A 4" of what make?

1998saharaarmyreplica 04-26-2013 03:00 PM

Rough country came with everything everything fit nicely there shocks ride great

Chupacabra Babb 04-26-2013 03:03 PM

Cool. I'll give rough country a look. Also, a member on here pm'd me with this info. Is it legit? I'm a little skittish because my identity was stolen a few years back.

(regarding a Rancho 3.5" lift) "This guy named Big J can sell it to you
sales@quicklyparts.com
he does paypal so he's legit"

Dextreme 04-26-2013 03:04 PM

As you read through the posts of lifts that WF owners recommend, you will see Zone Offroad, BDS, OME and Currie/Savy discussed most often. Currie/Savy is the good stuff.

Chupacabra Babb 04-26-2013 03:06 PM

Okay. I'll check out those names as well. I guess I can keep looking at the 33" tire range too. I'm assuming a combo of suspension/body is a fairly popular way to gain some inches too. Correct?

Dextreme 04-26-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra Babb (Post 3686455)
Okay. I'll check out those names as well. I guess I can keep looking at the 33" tire range too. I'm assuming a combo of suspension/body is a fairly popular way to gain some inches too. Correct?

Yes, and that is why many of have the Zone 4.25" Combo installed.

4.25" TJ Combo Lift J25/J26

1998saharaarmyreplica 04-26-2013 03:09 PM

Best idea then your steering symmetry isn't thrown out so much

staud11 04-26-2013 03:15 PM

Usually any time a rig is lifted above 3 inches, your going to need to install a SYE/CV drive shaft and rear upper adjustable control arms. You can install a TC drop ( many cheaper kits include one ) but you'll be way more satisfied with the SYE kit :)! As far as lifts/arms...Currie comes to my mind! One thing I can tell you is be patient when choosing parts for your rig.! If you have to save for a couple weeks or even months, its definitely worth it .. I didn't and now I find my self needing to replace my current lift :/

PStov98TJ 04-26-2013 03:17 PM

If you decide to go RC, do not used their replacement track bar. It causes serious clearance issues even for on road driving. And don't install any of their drop pittman arms or drop track bar brackets either.

In my opinion, if you're looking to do 33's the correct way, check out DPG's Ultimate TJ/LJ kit. They can hook you up with spring rates tailored to your needs and it comes with some quality stuff. The parts are listed in my sig below. Feel free to ask any questions about it.

PStov98TJ 04-26-2013 03:20 PM

And here's the proof for the track bars. Go to the last few pages of this thread as it is a multi-year one. If there is any mention of JKS track bars hitting in the beginning of the thread don't let it worry you. They have since redesigned their's so that it clears very well for a 2.5-3" lift.

tj front adjustable track bars for 0-3.5", does yours hit or fit? - JeepForum.com

jcrawler93 04-26-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chupacabra Babb (Post 3686439)
Cool. I'll give rough country a look. Also, a member on here pm'd me with this info. Is it legit? I'm a little skittish because my identity was stolen a few years back.

(regarding a Rancho 3.5" lift) "This guy named Big J can sell it to you
sales@quicklyparts.com
he does paypal so he's legit"

Well it's all done by Paypal the guy just sends you an invoice, you pay it. If you don't receive what you get Paypal gives you the money back. They don't ask you nothing through the mail

Chupacabra Babb 04-27-2013 01:51 PM

Well, I've done a little homework, and I feel like the Zone combo may be the right lift for me! Who else has it, and what problems should I expect from it? Also, am I gonna have to do anything nutty like pull the engine to put in the mount lifts? I feel like that's kind of a worst case scenario situation, but just wanted to ask to be sure.

thgr8alex 04-27-2013 11:07 PM

I run the zone 3 inch on mine and got no complaints. Great kit for the money. Just spray some wd40 on any bolts a few times in advance to let it soak in on anything that will be removed in process. Rusted bolts are no fun to mess with dry. Also the front track bar requires a new hole drilled which can break of not beefed up. I skipped that step and bought an adjustable front track bar from rubicon express to make my life easier and not worry about the problem.

Chupacabra Babb 04-27-2013 11:39 PM

And steering stabilizers? Necessary? Also, gr8 one, can you hit me with a link?

thgr8alex 04-27-2013 11:45 PM

Youll be ok without steering stabilizer if your staying at a 2 in.
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16190_007_07.htm
Theres the BB. Comes with bumpstop extensions
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16067_00.htm
And theres your body lift. Jks makes good body lifts.. Many have them. And the spacers, theyre all really the same but teraflex are popular

Chupacabra Babb 04-28-2013 12:15 PM

Oh, I meant the Zone 4.25" combo... I'm doing more than 2"...

thgr8alex 04-28-2013 12:28 PM

Oh gosh.. Im sorry man i got this thread mixed up with another one.. I ordered mine off of a guy on here, allen. His username is AOR. I got an amazing deal from him. Hes a vendor from allens offroad, many people order from him, id recommend that highly. Just shoot him a pm to compare prices to zones website
http://zoneoffroad.com/product?ki=451

Chupacabra Babb 04-28-2013 08:50 PM

Cool. So, I'm also gonna try and put some Cragar 16x8 wheels on it. 5" back spacing. Do I need wheel spacers or anything of the sort? I'm gonna do the factory look flares that are 3.5" wider. That should cover it, right?

thgr8alex 04-28-2013 09:22 PM

With 5 in backspacing and wider flares, im pretty sure the flares will stock out farther than the tires. I dont know if thats what you want, you might rub too. I would go for 4 inch or 3.75 backspacing with the wider flares, that should put the tires right under and give you full coverage


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