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gorski00 04-27-2013 11:51 AM

Harken hoist & freedom panels
 
Just installed my harken hoist this morning. Can I store my hardtop with the freedom panels still attached to the back half of the hardtop? I know I need to separate it from the frame/roll bars before I hoist it up but is there enough support? Or do I need to always remove the freedom panels and store them separately?

I have a 2012 2 door JK. Thanks for the help!

legitposter 04-27-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gorski00 (Post 3689307)
Just installed my harken hoist this morning. Can I store my hardtop with the freedom panels still attached to the back half of the hardtop? I know I need to separate it from the frame/roll bars before I hoist it up but is there enough support? Or do I need to always remove the freedom panels and store them separately?

I have a 2012 2 door JK. Thanks for the help!



The freedom panels only connect to the rear piece with the two hand screws (The two rear hinge connections are not true connections. As soon as the rear would lift up then those two hinges will lose all of the counter-force that keeps them connected)

So the question is: Is there super secret support inside the top around the two hand screws that will allow them to hold the weight of the freedom panels? I don't know if anyone has that answer.

I wouldn't risk it though.

RoadiJeff 04-27-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gorski00 (Post 3689307)
Just installed my harken hoist this morning.

Mine was just delivered today. I might spend part of my Sunday installing it. How long did it take you to install?

R1pilot 04-27-2013 10:25 PM

Took me ~5 hours by myself. I am not a handy guy but found it relatively easy. Had a hard time locating the studs in my finished ceiling. The placement of my rafters required I follow the alternate instructions with two 2x6's and a 2x4. I struggled with the figure 8 knots at first but YouTube helped. It's up and works!

cavsvet74 04-27-2013 10:59 PM

I would suggest putting the freedom panels in the storage bag and place them on top of the hardtop.

odd42 04-27-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cavsvet74 (Post 3691070)
I would suggest putting the freedom panels in the storage bag and place them on top of the hardtop.

I just put them in the bag and hang it next to the rope from the hoist

jwilson2598 04-28-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cavsvet74 (Post 3691070)
I would suggest putting the freedom panels in the storage bag and place them on top of the hardtop.

I thought about doing this, then forgot. I also dreamed up making a small shelf that would attach to the 6 hardtop holes and you could set them on that.

dmako 04-28-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gorski00 (Post 3689307)
Just installed my harken hoist this morning. Can I store my hardtop with the freedom panels still attached to the back half of the hardtop? I know I need to separate it from the frame/roll bars before I hoist it up but is there enough support? Or do I need to always remove the freedom panels and store them separately?

I have a 2012 2 door JK. Thanks for the help!

Curious, how high is your ceiling? My is height to exposed joints is 7' 11" and was wonder if that offered enough room for hoist.

Reece 04-28-2013 08:27 AM

I don't think it's meant for a low ceiling.

Quadratec: Harken Hoister - YouTube

See this instead.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/har...ge-212127.html

gorski00 04-28-2013 07:53 PM

Thanks. Yeah I figured it was a no go but I wasn't sure if anyone had some crazy way to rig it. Putting them on top of the hardtop is a great idea.


Took me 2 hours to get the 2 x 4s up. Mostly because I was super cautious about placement. Then about 2 hours in the am to get the hoist and the knots tied. Plenty of continued messing throughout the day to get the balance right.

Super happy with the product though. Highly recommend.

RoadiJeff 04-28-2013 10:05 PM

I just finished installing mine. I didn't have any help, so I measured everything several times before I cut or drilled anything. It took me around 4 hours but I had to go to Home Depot and get another lag bolt because one snapped as I was tightening it down.

It looks like the kit I have is for a 12' ceiling. Mine is 10' and I have a bit of extra rope at the 4 drop downs. Later this week I might remove the top, lower it all the way to the floor and get rid of any excess rope.

SilverSport 04-28-2013 11:05 PM

Is it just me or what? I just read thru the install instructions for the Harken and it made me feel like an idiot. :redface:

This isn't supposed to be rocket science. :banghead:

RoadiJeff 04-29-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 3694621)
Is it just me or what? I just read thru the install instructions for the Harken and it made me feel like an idiot.

It wasn't until I'd read it completely about 3 times before I started understanding it. The "front" board of the hoist, which is actually the opposite direction the Jeep is facing, initially threw me off.

When I marked where the ceiling boards and hooks were going to be attached I just parked at the spot where I was going to lift it and held a string with a weight on the end down from the ceiling at each corner of the hard top.

Gowhitesox99 04-29-2013 10:14 PM

my garage is 9 foot, should i just go with the original or get the 8.5 foot one?

SilverSport 04-29-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff (Post 3695448)
It wasn't until I'd read it completely about 3 times before I started understanding it. The "front" board of the hoist, which is actually the opposite direction the Jeep is facing, initially threw me off.

When I marked where the ceiling boards and hooks were going to be attached I just parked at the spot where I was going to lift it and held a string with a weight on the end down from the ceiling at each corner of the hard top.

I read them again several times and it made sense. Guess I shouldn't read this stuff when I am tired. LOL

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Originally Posted by Gowhitesox99 (Post 3699271)
my garage is 9 foot, should i just go with the original or get the 8.5 foot one?

There are different versions depending on ceiling height?

RoadiJeff 04-30-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverSport (Post 3699348)
There are different versions depending on ceiling height?

Harken makes different versions but I think Quadratec only sells the one for a 12' ceiling. It just has longer ropes.

SilverSport 04-30-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RoadiJeff (Post 3700583)
Harken makes different versions but I think Quadratec only sells the one for a 12' ceiling. It just has longer ropes.

I checked out the Harken website today and saw two versions for Jeeps. One for ceilings up to 10' high and one for 12 footers.

LongRifle45 04-30-2013 09:59 PM

I was going to order one. I measured my ceiling, and it is only 8' and I have an exposed light bulb right where the top would go, so that takes another 6" away. Not sure if I should get the hoist since I can only lift the top about a foot. I also don't have a soft top, so I would only be taking the top off for day trips.

legitposter 05-01-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LongRifle45 (Post 3703862)
I was going to order one. I measured my ceiling, and it is only 8' and I have an exposed light bulb right where the top would go, so that takes another 6" away. Not sure if I should get the hoist since I can only lift the top about a foot. I also don't have a soft top, so I would only be taking the top off for day trips.

Still works... Put the hoist towards front of garage. Back in. Raise top. Next time you pull into the garage, the hood of the wrangler will go right under the raised top.

Fly2crawl 05-12-2013 07:20 AM

I also have a low garage but I'm planning on using the hoist to get the top off then storing it on a cart off to the back of the garage so it doesn't take up my ceiling space.


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