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nicodemus 04-27-2013 10:53 PM

Should I just not go off road?
 
Well, I am thoroughly scared!

I've been reading about how weak the D35 is, and watching youtube videos where people's D35s broke on them.

So my question is, should I just avoid going off road till I upgrade my axles?

Share some stories, good or bad, I don't necessarily want to break anything - but I don't want to not have fun till I get some new rear end gear.

I've got 31" tires, D35 rear and D30 front end.

Thoughts anyone?

Helmsy 04-27-2013 10:56 PM

Don't be crazy and spin the rear tires and get into tire hop situations and you'll be fine. Just drive smart!

kreakj1 04-27-2013 10:59 PM

Honestly I've been offloading since I got my jeep.. At that time I had 215 and the same axles u do.. I still have the same axles but have upgraded to 35's.. Start out easy and learn your jeep.. A whole bunch of throttle equals broken pieces! Have fun :)

mudmagnet63 04-27-2013 11:03 PM

Nic quit worrying and go enjoy the jeep. Mine has the 35 in it and until 3 months ago it was all stock. with 145K miles. Can you tear it up? Of course. With larger tires and lifts the components endure more stress and can break. Bottom line is the 35 is ok for moderate use just don't expect it to cross the Rubicon.

Mud

nicodemus 04-27-2013 11:20 PM

Thanks for the advice, I guess if I tear something up it'll be a good reason to upgrade ;)

Thanks again!

EnglishBulldog1 04-28-2013 01:31 AM

Do not live in fear. Just be smart, have a cell phone and someone to call.

wa_troop 04-28-2013 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnglishBulldog1 (Post 3691476)
Do not live in fear. Just be smart, have a cell phone and someone to call.

Don't know bout u but most places I go in my neck of the woods when I go wheelin I don't have cell coverage

BlackTJ94 04-28-2013 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicodemus (Post 3691045)
Well, I am thoroughly scared!

I've been reading about how weak the D35 is, and watching youtube videos where people's D35s broke on them.

So my question is, should I just avoid going off road till I upgrade my axles?

Share some stories, good or bad, I don't necessarily want to break anything - but I don't want to not have fun till I get some new rear end gear.

I've got 31" tires, D35 rear and D30 front end.

Thoughts anyone?

Hey man my buddy has the same axles on his Tj and he is running 33's. We go wheeling all the time and his rig drives great, no problems. He also wheels his pretty hard. Just be careful with the throttle. If your wheels aren't going anywhere dont give it gas or it will most likes snap something. Just remember, trust in your jeep!

flameredTJ 04-28-2013 03:21 AM

I have a D30 &d35 and i go off road. I figure if the d35 goes then ill look for a 44. I take my time and so far so good.

Cray 04-28-2013 04:07 AM

My Jeep:
1995 Jeep Wrangler 4. 0
Dana 35
Mileage: 206K

I live on Big Island Hawaii I take my Jeep out in the country all of the time. I have inspected my rear differential I have found broken teeth still tough reliable condition. What I say can suggest to you is that you do an inspection of your rear and front differentials and change the oil. See how everything looks give you a better idea of how long it will last you. it is a very simple procedure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmsy (Post 3691054)
Don't be crazy and spin the rear tires and get into tire hop situations and you'll be fine. Just drive smart!

That's the biggest thing bud, drive smart!

Rubicondon53 04-28-2013 05:32 AM

Sometimes when out with others I take a bit of grief for being a bit slower than everyone else, but magically enough, in a lifetime of wheelin, ( 76 to 88) started up again 97 to present ) I've experienced nothing more than a flat tire or two. My toys have never left me sitting.. Some call it "finesse" driving ,, others call it "elegant" driving, I just stick by a very old mantra.... Drive as slow as you can, and only as fast as you need to.. ;)

cmoens 04-28-2013 05:33 AM

I was wheeling 33s and D35/D30 setup. I didn't have any problems, but I was easy on the go peddle.

Tomdata 04-28-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flameredTJ (Post 3691583)
I have a D30 &d35 and i go off road. I figure if the d35 goes then ill look for a 44. I take my time and so far so good.

X2

Except I am going 8.8 ford instead of dana44

Jwood621 04-28-2013 06:33 AM

Man, you're reading too many horror stories. You need to get out and enjoy your jeep!

jp2611 04-28-2013 06:59 AM

What you see on Utube is extreme...and that is why it is on there...for the OH SHI$$$ factor.....it is kinda like the Jeep camaro drag race or the 350z and Jeep drag, or the guy who's YJ is on its side and "drives out of it" but the $50K+ built off - road machine couldn't "take the same line"....

Bottom line utube is for laughs and using your imagination...use some common sense and you will be fine...another example...you wouldn't hit a concrete wall repeatedly and expect your stock bumper to hold up...but I have seen some after market ones that will.....Good Luck!!

03 sahara jeeper 04-28-2013 08:52 AM

Take it off road. It is better if you go with some one. I don't like to go alone. That way if something happens there is some one to help. I Ave been wheeling for 10 years and have never broken anything. Just know your Limits. Enjoy your jeep.

IslandTJ 04-28-2013 09:10 AM

I've been wheeling my D35 since 1997 when I bought the Jeep brand new out of the dealership. No issues.

SteelBlue44 04-28-2013 09:16 AM

You should be fine with 31s. Ive been wheeling my D35 w/4.56 with 33s for about 2 years now :redface: I haven't had any problems on or off the trail at all. Although i do tend to take it easy while wheeling knowing i have the turdy five in the rear. Just take it easy on the trail and know your limits, dont spin the tires too much, if your stuck just get winched out.
I wouldn't go over 33" tires on the D35 though. I have my Ford 8.8 build underway, so i should be good to run 35s once i complete the build!

jeepwayoflife 04-28-2013 09:32 AM

My jeep has had 33's on a Dana 35 for 10 or so years now and not one problem. I have bounced it while climbing rocks and can do clutch dumps at 4,500 rpm with no problems (I was testing the Dana 35). I bought a Dana 44 that I'm fixing up and will swap in soon, but as long as you are easy and don't install a locker, you really should be fine. If you are worried you can buy this product I have seen in a quadratec magazine that is this little bar with rollers on it. If you break a C-clip axle, you put this roller bar on the tire and strap it to your jeep so you can still drive slowly without the broken shaft walking out. Good insurance.

Philmycrackin 04-28-2013 09:33 AM

I have stock d30 and d35 no lockers on my 97 with 33x12.5 with steel wheels. My jeep has not provided me with the opportunity to upgrade yet( knocking on wood). Took it out yesterday with no probs. like a few said above drive smart avoid wheel hop. Few parts of the trail got tough and made it through. On a side note,had to pull 2 rubicons out that got stuck on the same part of the trail.

toolmantim 04-28-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jwood621 (Post 3691686)
Man, you're reading too many horror stories. You need to get out and enjoy your jeep!

This^^^^

If you bought a Ferrari would you drive it FAST???

You bought a Jeep....now go take it off-road where it belongs.:thumb:

Moebius 04-28-2013 10:06 AM

Axles do break.
I've never seen anyone left stranded on the trail for a broken axle.
You might find yourself on a tug strap or with a wrench in your hand and it might cost you a few bucks to fix but it's not the end of the world.
Don't wheel alone and try to use your head more than the skinny pedal and you should be fine. I agree with the above, you need to get out and enjoy your Jeep.

nicodemus 04-28-2013 10:42 AM

Thanks for the overwhelming support... :)


I've since been watching videos of successful wheeling sessions and I think I can... I think I can... I think I can... Lol.


Ill report back if I ever break anything :)

TJDave 04-28-2013 10:45 AM

Don't lock it, don't hop it. You'll be fine..............................Hopefully.

nicodemus 04-28-2013 10:48 AM

Haha. Tanks I feel MUCH better :)

doclouie 04-28-2013 04:12 PM

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Remember do not wheel hop, although I have quite a bit, and just take it easy on the skinny pedal. The 35 does have its short comings and is not a dand 44, but it is a pretty good axle for most people. Here is a picture from Moab last year and yes I beat on my dana 35 all the time. I recently upgraded to a Dana 44, but when I ran all those trails in Moab I kept spare 35 shafts with me.
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JeepandMud 04-28-2013 04:37 PM

Take it easy. I have 33's on stock axles but will upgrade when I get the money. Yes I'm playing with fire every time I go out, but I also don't do anything crazy. Sure I push my Jeep but at the same time cautious.

rutgers1700 05-02-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmsy (Post 3691054)
Don't be crazy and spin the rear tires and get into tire hop situations and you'll be fine. Just drive smart!

I agree. i blew my rear axel because my tires got pinned. with my 304 V8 i floored it to free them and it broke. dont crazy spin the tires and may i suggest AAA :) saved my butt!

Water Dog 05-02-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudmagnet63 (Post 3691082)
Nic quit worrying and go enjoy the jeep. Mine has the 35 in it and until 3 months ago it was all stock. with 145K miles. Can you tear it up? Of course. With larger tires and lifts the components endure more stress and can break. Bottom line is the 35 is ok for moderate use just don't expect it to cross the Rubicon.

Mud

Did all 17 miles of the Rubicon last August with 33's on a D35/30 and didn't have any issues. You just have to use finesse. Use the foreward momentum of the Jeep when it's rockin', don't use more throttle than you need, and drive it like a tractor. The guy that was with me broke an axle when he tried to hi-ball it up a rock, but that was his mistake....Just gave us an extra day in that beautiful country.

Best advice....Have fun, take it easy, and don't wheel alone.

Lowrollin12 05-02-2013 02:34 PM

You got a Jeep not a Porsche, Get that thing off the road! :)


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