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JeepCO12 04-28-2013 03:25 PM

Mpg drop since lift
 
I have searched and read numerous posts about mpg but most posts did not answer the question of how many mpg were actually lost with a given lift / wheel combo. Most posts simply stated something like I'm getting 14 mpg with 35s and a 3" lift. This does not help because some threads reveal that dfferent drivers get different mpgs even on bone stock rigs (because of driving mostly in traffic, mostly at the speed limit, pushing the brick like aero regularly on a highway commute at 70 mph or having a lead foot when leaving lights etc).

What would be useful is how much did you get with your stock Jeep vs how much you got after a lift. Then, assuming the driving style remained about the same, we would know that x lift with x wheels is likely to cause a loss of x mpg.

I already know I didn't buy a Prius (so please forget those comments). I am trying to decide whether to go with lightweight aluminum bumpers and no lift or do a modest 2" lift, heavier steel bumpers and eventually move to 33s. Since it looks like I am doing > 15,000 miles a year, gas mileage is part of the equation and I would like to know what I'm getting into. I'm getting 20-21 mpg in a stock 2012 Rubicon with manual trans. If I were to modify the Jeep so it only got 14 mpg I would be pretty unhappy.

So - if you feel like helping me (and others following) learn, please post your original stock mpg, your lift and wheel/tire size and your mpg since so we have a before and after from the same driver. Many thanks!

The_Chief 04-28-2013 03:33 PM

Before: 20
After: 10

I'm turning it in for a Prius.

kjeeper10 04-28-2013 03:46 PM

Not sure, never really paid attention.

My guess 16 ish

Now 13 ish

OffRoadCam09 04-28-2013 03:47 PM

2013 sport 3.21 gears.
Bone stock: 20-21 mpg
33's only: 19-20 mpg
33's an leveling kit: 17-19 mpg

MikeK46 04-28-2013 03:50 PM

The more highway driving you do, the more of a hit you'll take from a lift. The more city driving you do, the more of a hit you'll take from adding weight (especially unsprung).

I do no highway driving. I lost a few mpg's after upgrading to 33's but did not lose any mpg's after a 2.5" lift.

The_Chief 04-28-2013 04:15 PM

I'm waiting for the obligatory jackhole to get on here and say he's getting 25+...

Tweak 04-28-2013 04:16 PM

3.5 in lift, 37", 3.73

16.5MPG

dat pentastar!

ESP 04-28-2013 04:18 PM

I LOVE mpg threads.

JeepCO12 04-28-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OffRoadCam09 (Post 3693039)
2013 sport 3.21 gears.
Bone stock: 20-21 mpg
33's only: 19-20 mpg
33's an leveling kit: 17-19 mpg

Nice post - thanks. This is the sort of feedback I was looking for.

JeepCO12 04-28-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweak (Post 3693124)
3.5 in lift, 37", 3.73

16.5MPG

dat pentastar!

?

What was mpg before lift? I am trying to get before and after info from the same driver.

zx6r 04-28-2013 04:39 PM

35x12.5x15 - 2.5" lift and 4.88 gears - 15 - 16 mpg

DJL2 04-28-2013 04:39 PM

I have a 2012 6-spd Unlimited Rubicon -

When it was stock last summer, I'd crack 20 mpg on a good day, once I saw 22 indicated in EVIC, but overall, I was about 19 mpg driving relatively conservatively. At present, I'm waiting for similar conditions to roll back around in another month or so to make a comparison.

However, of late, I see usually 18-18.5 mpg if I drive conservatively and down shift when I hit hills. That's commuting over hills most days, traveling on highways, some stop and go mixed in - I never seem to find that happy place where I trundle along at 55 mph all day long. =)

You can check my profile for specifics, but I'm still on stock rubber with ~3 inches of lift. I'm actually interested to see how my fuel economy will change with new tires. I wish I could mount up 4-5 different sets and drive a test loop under reasonably well controlled conditions and work up some numbers. Ultimately, though, I doubt I'll be able to convince myself to sacrifice traction of the non-pavement variety. I've been stuck, I've seen folks stuck - I'd rather do the latter.

Dino30 04-28-2013 04:43 PM

See this is not an easy question to answer ... If you are staying with your factory gear set when you can expect to lose 1-3 MPG going from a 29in tire to a 33 .. However you have a rubicon . If im not mistaken then you have 31-32 in tires from the factory so going to a 33 will not change much .. But when you add weight it can kill your mpg .. If you are that worried about the mpg then i would look into some performance parts to go with the kit .. Like a programmer (to set your tire size and get your trans to shift when it should , also it will tell your ecm to change the shift points and lower the rpm when on the hwy .. ) You can also add a free flowing air filter and exhaust (cat back) to get you 2-4 mpg back .. So its all up to you , weight and bigger meets will drop mpg ..

The_Chief 04-28-2013 04:47 PM

C'mon...c'mon...we're almost there...at 22 now... where r the 25+ guys???

JPi4.0 04-28-2013 04:57 PM

Before 14.7.

After. 11.2.
Calculated and averaged. (Real numbers)

JeepR kReapR 04-28-2013 04:59 PM

2012 2 Door Sport S w/manual and 3.21s

Before 33s and 2.5 lift - avg 20-21mpg
After - avg 17mpg

Most of what was been posted tires & lift is true. Bigger tires tend to be heavier and will affect city mileage. A lift will increase aerodynamic drag and impact highway mileage. I've got an 04 Crossfire that only has 215 hp but it gets 25 mpg and will do 160MPH (yes I pegged the speedo...once) due to the gearing & the aerodynamics of the vehicle.

The Jeep is a brick in terms of air resistance, anyone getting 25+mpg is driving downhill both ways :thumb:

I'm planning to add steel bumpers front/rear. I'm hoping a 4.10 gear upgrade in the manual will give me 6th gear back on the highway and keep me at least around 17mpg.

Barmanvarn 04-28-2013 05:01 PM

Stock: approximately 20 mpg


33s and leveling kit and heavy ass winch: approx 18 mpg

BadOleRoss 04-28-2013 05:03 PM

2013 JKU Sport S
3.73s, 35s 4 in lift
18 mpg's before lift
16 mpg's after lift and tires
15 mpg's after front stubby and winch were added

jkrew 04-28-2013 05:26 PM

Its a 2ton rectangular box with the aerodynamic coeficient of a UPS truck. Are you expecting anything less?

Thats why I have a sticker on my bumper saying "My jeep cancels out your prius"

kjeeper10 04-28-2013 05:32 PM

26.5 before

20.5 After

Oh wait ... I already posted. Damn !!!

X50ARM 04-28-2013 05:32 PM

2011 JKUR 4.10 gears.

Before: 19 hwy, 16 city
After: 16hwy, 14.5 city

2.5" RK Lift with 35" Toyo MTs

Baldmtn 04-28-2013 05:36 PM

Before - sorry

After - 3 in fabtech and 35's on 20's - 12.3


Will say that I am not trying to get good gas mileage though. I am just driving.

DallasJKU 04-28-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESP (Post 3693125)
I LOVE mpg threads.

Should not be allowed on a Jeep site.

JTPhoto JK 04-28-2013 05:46 PM

2008 Sahara Unlimited 3.73 gears highway all stock 22-23mpg.

After 3.5" lift and 35" Pitbulls, Superchips programmer again 90% highway 17-18 mpg

jp2611 04-28-2013 05:46 PM

more info delete or factor in

'04 Tj 3.73's Sport I6 Stock 29" tires 20-22 mpg highway, 17-19 city
33" tires/ steel wheels 4" total lift front and rear bumpers 17-18 highway 15-17 around town

'12 JK sport 3.73 auto 22-23 highway 19 mpg city summer gas and synthetic oil

conventional oil and winter gas 20 highway 17 city

mtbrider 04-28-2013 06:17 PM

I get 29mpg....

















when I drive my wife's car.

benjamin.allen 04-28-2013 06:46 PM

Never tried to figure out on my own cause frankly dont care but the dashboard says i average 12

JeepCO12 04-28-2013 10:28 PM

Thanks for the info so far! I'll see if I can summarize it and add it to the first post so others looking for this won't have to wade through the other stuff.

Any more? This is helpful - thanks.

fastNugly 04-28-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweak (Post 3693124)
3.5 in lift, 37", 3.73

16.5MPG

dat pentastar!

This is from a penstar and 3.73"
I'm going through this thought process too and have a JKUR coming in with 3.73 and I want 35's and worried about MPGs with the 3.73 gears.

But 16.5 to me is good as my Ram now get 12-13 MPG after lift and 37's. use to get 18-19 and I am re geared as well....so gearing didnt help MPG wise, but help bring back all the performance and more

I need help here to and am subscribed :popcorn:

jyp 04-29-2013 12:34 AM

Hmmm 2008 JKUR 6spd bone stock. Can't figure out why I'm getting 12.5 mpg on average (counted at the pump and on the odo... Real numbers). Want to lift and tires but scared it'll grind down to a standstill.


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