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gator055 07-25-2006 05:02 PM

Some lift help
 
Hello all, I was wondering will a 4 inch suspension and a 1 inch body, clear 35 inch tires? Or do I need a 2 inch body? It is for a 98 TJ. I'm in Florida so I dont do rock climbing, mostly mud, some sand. Im not a big fan of the "body lift" look but cant afford a 6 inch suspension.

Thanks

jeeperman 07-25-2006 05:17 PM

Should clear 35's without any issues. Go for it!

Scout 07-25-2006 05:18 PM

A 4 inch suspension lift alone should/could clear 35's. It depends on the lift. Although a 4" lift and a 1 or 1.25" body lift should easily clear 35's. Steer clear of any body lift over 1.25". JMHO & my .02.

1BLKJP 07-25-2006 05:21 PM

Yup X3 as to what the other guys say. That will work plenty fine for you.

mrbigjeep 07-25-2006 05:45 PM

ya it will be plenty too clear the 35's...and like he said...stay with a 1 inch body lift...dont go over an inch

gator055 07-25-2006 05:47 PM

Hey thanks for everyone's quick reply. I would thinking of just doing the 4 inch lift, have seen it done and clearing 35's, but does look a little tight. If I do any type of body it will be with a 1 inch body max.

Does anyone have a pics of TJ's with 4" clearing 35's or maybe 4" with a 1" on 35's?

1BLKJP 07-25-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gator055
Hey thanks for everyone's quick reply. I would thinking of just doing the 4 inch lift, have seen it done and clearing 35's, but does look a little tight. If I do any type of body it will be with a 1 inch body max.

Does anyone have a pics of TJ's with 4" clearing 35's or maybe 4" with a 1" on 35's?

Here's mine, it has RE 5.5" Springs and a 1" BL with 35's. Just take about 2" inches of space out of the wheel wells in your mind and you will see that there will still be plenty of clearance.

4Jeepn 07-25-2006 06:12 PM

RE 4.5 with 2" spacer up front.. no body lift. Be sure to get the correct bump stop as this will make a world of difference.

http://jeeppages.com/albums/userpics...0_0251%7E0.JPG

gator055 07-25-2006 08:09 PM

Great looking jeeps. Now you bring up a new question. Instead of a bl what is the opinion on a spacer lift on top of the 4" sus?

4Jeepn 07-25-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gator055
Great looking jeeps. Now you bring up a new question. Instead of a bl what is the opinion on a spacer lift on top of the 4" sus?

I have not had any issues with mine so far, have had two tj's with the spacers above 4.5" coils in the front only.

Scout 07-26-2006 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gator055
Great looking jeeps. Now you bring up a new question. Instead of a bl what is the opinion on a spacer lift on top of the 4" sus?

I'll let you know in about a week. I'm about to install .75" Teraflex spacers on top of my 4" Rough Country. I'll probably leave the stock spring isolators up front and just the .75" in the rear. I'll post some pics when it's done...

mrbigjeep 07-26-2006 05:03 PM

i've heard that it's not a good idea to install spacers on top of a four inch lift...but i have no idea why and don't know if its true...i don't see why it wouldn't be good and "4jepn" said his was good so its not necessarily true that its a bad idea

bad00jeep 07-28-2006 08:24 PM

i have a 4" teraflex with 2" adjustable front spring spacers and have never had a problem. I also have had people tell me that its not a good idea, don't know why though.

4JEEPN:
you say spacers on the front? how did you level the back to match the front. I have the spacers on the front too and i have the prerunner look. I was thinking some 1"-2" in the back to help level myself out, is that what you did?

mrbigjeep 07-29-2006 12:05 AM

yeah i've heard that also but don't know why they say that

gator055 07-30-2006 09:36 PM

Thanks everyone for the input. One last question. I am going to go with the 4" suspension and 1" BL. I figure that would be enough to clear 35's nicely. BUT do I need to install a Slip Yoke eliminator? I have read where some people do, some dont. Some experiance vibrations others none. I understand if I went to a 6" suspension I would have to, but with a 4 can I get away with not installing it?

jeeperman 07-30-2006 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gator055
Thanks everyone for the input. One last question. I am going to go with the 4" suspension and 1" BL. I figure that would be enough to clear 35's nicely. BUT do I need to install a Slip Yoke eliminator? I have read where some people do, some dont. Some experiance vibrations others none. I understand if I went to a 6" suspension I would have to, but with a 4 can I get away with not installing it?

Unfortunately, the best answer is maybe. Like you yourself said, some people do, some don't, chalk it up to the differences in the lifts and the tolerances of the build process for your Jeep. If you are trying to save money, try it without, but be prepared to shell out the extra $$$ for the SYE if needed, and be prepared for some more downtime for the Jeep...

mrbigjeep 07-30-2006 11:17 PM

if you go with a 6" suspension lift you will definitely need one...some people get vibes with the 4" some don't...if you do get vibes i don't think they will be very severe so i think you could live with them and do without an sye even if you do have a little vibration...but if you ever have a little (or a lot) of cash layin around then an sye definitely couldn't hurt...but you may not need one...if i was you i would install the 4" lift without one and then see if you need it or not and even if you do you wouldn't have to do it right away...you could wait till you got the other mods you want done or until you got enough cash...as long as you can live with the vibes until then you would be fine without one until you want to get it

bluvikng 07-31-2006 12:01 AM

The problem with putting on a suspension lift on top off spring spacers is you throw off the geometry of your Track bars. Most suspension lifts are, " stand alone", kits. If you pursue this avenue, you will most likely need adjustable upper control arms, and adjustable track bars, as well. You increase the angle of your driveshafts by doing this. Therefore, you will need to push your pinion angle upwards, to decrease the angle of your driveshaft. It can be done, but it is costly, and can cause some major problems with vibrations from the driveshaft. You will also have to get longer shocks, and your articulation will not benefit from this at all.

mrbigjeep 07-31-2006 07:18 AM

aaah...so thats why, well thans for lettin us know and clearin that up

jeeperman 07-31-2006 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjeep
as long as you can live with the vibes until then you would be fine without one until you want to get it

Those vibes in the driveshaft u-joints will eventually eat your u-joint. I have had a driveshaft let go on the highway:eek:. Not a good time at all... If you have any vibes, you will need the SYE sooner than later, if your angles are off enough, you can go through u-joints in 10,000 miles or less... Just an FYI.

mrbigjeep 07-31-2006 11:35 AM

yeah thats true...but i guess i worded it wrong...i shouldn't have said you will be fine without one until you want to get i...i guess i meant that he would be fine without one at least for a little while...couple thousand miles...so if he couldn't get it FIRST THING after the lift was installed it would be ok and he would have a little while if he needed

gator055 07-31-2006 05:07 PM

Thanks everyone. I am going to go with a 4" suspension with the transfer case drop. Also adding a 1" BL. This is not going to be a daily driver just a weekend project. So if the vibes are that bad or once I have more money I will add the SYE. Thanks for taking out some of the questions im running into.

John


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