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zpratt4 12-10-2008 07:30 PM

what kind of lift do i have?
 
hey everybody, i was wanting to lift my jeep more but i don't know a ton about it. i'm assuming by looking at it that i have a bb but i'm not positive. i bought it already lifted. another question i have is, if i buy new shocks and springs that are longer than what i have now, is that all i need to lift my jeep more? i was looking at these springs 1997-2006 Jeep Wrangler - Skyjacker Coil Springs and they say they provide 4" of lift. do i just get those for the front and back and longer springs, or is there a lot of other stuff i would need too? here some pics of my suspension now. first one is the front second is the back. thanks for any help

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...4/P1010061.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...4/P1010066.jpg

AzTJ 12-10-2008 07:37 PM

That looks like a budget boost indeed. If those are the stock springs, I would look into replacement springs instead of new spacers.

Bigstonz 12-10-2008 08:06 PM

For my 33x 10.5 tires. I did the common Old Man Emu suspension lift -2.5 inches. It uses new shocks, HD springs, rear track bar relocation bracket, rear bump stop extension. I added a 3/4" spacer in the front for the heavy bumper and winch. I have not added front bumpstop extensions, adjustable front trackbar, or touched the pitman arm. I also did the 1.25" body lift and 1" motor mount lift. Mine now drives better than stock and is more than capable for the wheeling I do...It also looks much better, sits great with a slight rake to the front.
I'm a little concerned about the front bumpstops if I get into more serious wheeling. I haven't even used the sway bar disconnects yet.

From what I have read, if you lift the suspension more than 3-4", you open up a can of worms with drivetrain angles. More so on short wheelbase wranglers. Going to tires bigger than 33s will compromise all kinds of stock suspension and drivetrain components.

Hope this helps!

KellyK 12-10-2008 08:09 PM

You do have a BB... looks like a 2"
If you were to get new springs that would give you lift. The shocks only control the ride quality.
If you were to go with a 4" you are going to have some other things you will need to look into possibly.
Ive seen people having to get a tc drop,drive shafts that are longer. Things like that. What axels do you have? Putting a 4" lift on a D35 is going to increase your chances of snapping it. If you have a D44 then no worries.
I'm sure someone that knows ALOT more then i do will chime in here soon.
I expect tripp will be posting here in a hour or so...lol

zpratt4 12-10-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyK (Post 291061)
You do have a BB... looks like a 2"
If you were to get new springs that would give you lift. The shocks only control the ride quality.
If you were to go with a 4" you are going to have some other things you will need to look into possibly.
Ive seen people having to get a tc drop,drive shafts that are longer. Things like that. What axels do you have? Putting a 4" lift on a D35 is going to increase your chances of snapping it. If you have a D44 then no worries.
I'm sure someone that knows ALOT more then i do will chime in here soon.
I expect tripp will be posting here in a hour or so...lol

what if i just add a 2" lift kit to my bb... that should give me between 4-5". i'm running 33x12.50 right now so i think it should be more than 2" but i don't really know, that is just what i have read. i don't do any off roading because this is a daily driver and don't want to break anything. what about this lift kit? heard anything good about it? eBay Motors: 1997-2006 Jeep TJ Wrangler 2.5" Lift Kit (item 190263643239 end time Dec-30-08 20:07:34 PST)

Bigstonz 12-10-2008 08:24 PM

I would just add the JKS body lift/ motor mount lift. A couple hundred dollars in parts plus install

jgano23 12-10-2008 08:51 PM

most people here are not big fans of body lifts. the only body lift advise is that you dont want any thing more that a 1.75" anything more and it not only looks stupid but it provides no real advantages while off roading. you can fit bigger tires but you do not increase the suspension travel so there are no off road benefits.

KellyK 12-10-2008 09:44 PM

Well a body lift really does nothing for ya. And i know that your using it as a DD but there is always that chance that in the future you might want to take it out wheeling. Even trail riding. As far as the RC lift. I have never had one but there is about 70% on this board that have had them that disliked them. But there are some that are very happy with it.

If your going to fork out cash for a lift i would consider buying a good lift. And pulling them spacers. Sell them off to a new jeeper and recoop some cash for them. 50-75$ or so.
Get a lift of the total that you want. If you want a 4" lift. Go get a 4" lift and lose the spacers. That way you have a "true" lift. Rubicon Express and Old man emo are the best from what i have gathered.
I would look into a short arm kit unless you want to end up getting more parts.
Do you know what axel you have in the back?

Bigstonz 12-10-2008 09:59 PM

I suggested the body lift to keep him away from driveline issues at the 4" suspension lift height. My body lift is barely noticalbe. The BB doesn't increase suspension travel, that's why I suggested the mild suspension lift with mild body lift. I believe it avoids alot of problems, increases suspension travel somewhat, and allows a bigger tire. Doesn't a bigger tire in itself offer an offroad avantage? Of course, it all depends on what Zpratt4 has in mind for his jeep and what he wants to spend. There's always the option of new axels, driveshafts, gears, long travel arms, huge tires etc.

Just defending my suggestion, and girls with jeeps are cool

KellyK 12-10-2008 10:08 PM

yeah the body lift wouldnt be a bad idea in combo with a mild suspention lift.
You will be able to put bigger tires on and get that "look" that it sounds you are wanting and gain a bit of clearance around town.

And yes girls in jeeps are nice.... They like it dirty and topless...:eek:

zpratt4 12-10-2008 11:49 PM

anyone know a rough estimate how much places charge to install a suspension lift?

Allagash 12-14-2008 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zpratt4 (Post 291152)
anyone know a rough estimate how much places charge to install a suspension lift?

The reputable shop I use charges $65 per hour (which is cheap for my area). I'm guessing when I have them do my suspension lift install it will cost me $400 to $500 or so for the install.

4.0l sahara 12-14-2008 09:15 AM

There really is more than just slapping bigger springs in there to lift it. I would suggest not being cheap and doing it right. I would look into the RE 3.5" lift witch will give you around 4" to 4.5" of lift in reality. Also if you want a 4" lift look into a sye and new rear drive shaft too.:D


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