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rhinoxj89 05-01-2013 10:24 AM

looking for 2.5lift for 4door options or opinions
 
I am trying to find best bang for my bucks and not a lot of post install issues. AEV and teraflex keep popping up as the best but are they really? Can I depend on one of these lifts to not give any problems after install or do I need to buy drop brackets, extended brakelines, bumpstops, steering stabilizers, sway bars, track bar before I even start the lift? I want to make sure I have everything at the start of my lift project, though it is a small lift it is pretty big investment for me. I am hoping not have tons of problems down the road and want to start off with least likely lift to cause issues.

I am hoping not to spend more than 1500 because i will need to invest in tire soon after. Should i get a shop to install? How will this effect my suspension component warranties also?

Thanks for the help.

kjeeper10 05-01-2013 10:37 AM

Best is subjective. Looking for DD, any lift will do,
If you are not going to load the jeep with weight, I would recommend a budget/spacer lift.

rhinoxj89 05-01-2013 10:43 AM

I am planning on doing bumper frt and rear. Also, my gobi rack will be on its way in a few weeks, so there will be some extra weight already. Plus, I want have some flex off road and like you said this is my DD.

kjeeper10 05-01-2013 10:54 AM

$1500 is a good amount. No hassle and complete, AEV is perfect. Add the drop brackets also. They do wonders for ride/handling.

mckey73 05-01-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rhinoxj89 (Post 3705795)
I am planning on doing bumper frt and rear. Also, my gobi rack will be on its way in a few weeks, so there will be some extra weight already. Plus, I want have some flex off road and like you said this is my DD.

As expected I'm gonna recommend the MetalCloak product, they make really good stuff. Take a gander at their website. JK Wrangler Unlimited 2.5" Dual-Rate Lift Kit

rhinoxj89 05-01-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mckey73 (Post 3705891)
As expected I'm gonna recommend the MetalCloak product, they make really good stuff. Take a gander at their website. JK Wrangler Unlimited 2.5" Dual-Rate Lift Kit

thanks i will take a look at this. what is your review on this lift? Any issue post install and what extra hardware did you have to buy to make the lift work?

XTRyan 05-01-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rhinoxj89 (Post 3705718)
I am trying to find best bang for my bucks and not a lot of post install issues. AEV and teraflex keep popping up as the best but are they really? Can I depend on one of these lifts to not give any problems after install or do I need to buy drop brackets, extended brakelines, bumpstops, steering stabilizers, sway bars, track bar before I even start the lift? I want to make sure I have everything at the start of my lift project, though it is a small lift it is pretty big investment for me. I am hoping not have tons of problems down the road and want to start off with least likely lift to cause issues.

I am hoping not to spend more than 1500 because i will need to invest in tire soon after. Should i get a shop to install? How will this effect my suspension component warranties also?

Thanks for the help.

Teraflex makes a great lift kit. If you plan on doing any offroading or hauling any decent amount of weight, I would recommend them over AEV. AEV's kit is made for mainly street driving with some gravel roads being the most the Jeep will see.

The Teraflex 3" Lift Kit will come with everything you need to install it, and will be a very easy install. I can hook you up with our exclusive Wrangler Forum Discount and or free shipping, that will put the lift right in your price range.

As for the warranty, it doesn't matter who installs the lift kit, it has the potential to void your warranty. The claims will be at the discretion of the dealer. So if you put the lift and larger tires on and your radio goes out, obviously the lift didn't cause that and they have to accept that. Now, if you put the lift and tires on and an axle shaft fails, then it could be attributed to the tires and they can deny the claim.

Hope this give you some help. Feel free to get a hold of me if you have any questions.

-Zach

Salty1 05-01-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeTerrain (Post 3706156)
Teraflex makes a great lift kit. If you plan on doing any offroading or hauling any decent amount of weight, I would recommend them over AEV. AEV's kit is made for mainly street driving with some gravel roads being the most the Jeep will see.
-Zach


Understanding that your biased and want to sell your products I would hope that your knock on AEV would be backed up with some hardcore facts so that those of us who went the AEV route and are very satisfied can learn from our "mistakes".

Personally I feel you loose credibility when you tell people that the AEV lifts are made for the street and gravel roads, maybe I need to tell my Jeep that it is not supposed to be mountain climbing and used as an off road vehicle...... So how about some facts maybe start with "any off-roading or hauling" and show us some actual comparisons with similar Jeeps equipped with each manufacturers lifts.

Proxy404 05-01-2013 01:17 PM

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Teraflex 2.5" w/ shocks all the way. Ride is great and 100% better than stock. Takes potholes and bumps a lot better. Highly recommend. It'll fit 35s easy (I have 35" duratracs on mine). With the big tires and 3.21 gears, you're looking at about 16 mpg highway. At least that's what I'm getting, although I also have steel bumpers and winch.

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I had mine installed by a shop and they said it was the easiest one they've done. Call Quad to place your order and tell them your on Wrangler Forum and you'll get free shipping.

guppy 05-01-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeTerrain (Post 3706156)
Teraflex makes a great lift kit. If you plan on doing any offroading or hauling any decent amount of weight, I would recommend them over AEV. AEV's kit is made for mainly street driving with some gravel roads being the most the Jeep will see.
-Zach


I have an 09 Rubicon Unlimited and a 13 Sport Unlimited.
The 09 has a budget boost 2.5 TF lift with AEV drop brackets and TF front adjustable track bar, 33" Duratrac's.
The 2013 has 2.5 AEV lift with AEV drop brackets and 35's.
Both drive great on the road.
Both have done everything I asked of them off road.
I installed both lifts myself and would be curious to exactly what makes Zach think the AEV lift is less capable then the TF.

To be realistic what are lifts: Longer coil springs, longer shocks, both companies make an adjustment for the rear track bar. Some form of adjustment for the sway bar end links, and some way of creating more brake line length.
At 2.5 inches of lift that is about all there is to it.

Zach I would be curious to what exactly makes the AEV lift less capable off road? Is it the springs, shocks, rear track bar mount, sway bar end links, brake line drop brackets. Is there something else?

If you are knowledgeable enough to make statements as to the weight carrying/offroad capabilities of AEV's lift then please enlighten us to what component of the lift that makes them so much less capable.

To the OP you can not go wrong IMO with either of these companies as they both make great procucts along with many others companies you will see recommended here on this forum.

KrawlOff-Road.com 05-01-2013 01:31 PM

Not getting in between that...

AEV and TeraFlex both are great companies. Each offer their own "feel" both on and off road. If you go with the AEV route, you deffenatly want to add the front correction brackets. If you go with TeraFlex, you should look into adding a adjustable front trackbar and lower adjustable control arms. These two (and the AEV Correction brackets) will really affect the on road ride and handling which is somenthing most of us want to keep.

With the TeraFlex, you will also need to add shocks if you dont get the kit with their 9550's. I would suggest staying away from the shock extension adaports though.

http://www.krawloff-road.com/product...25noshocks.htm

http://www.krawloff-road.com/product_p/tfjk25shocks.htm

All TeraFlex though us is free shipping...

Now, one thing to point out is that AEV runs a progressive rate coil front and back and the TeraFlex runs a linear coil front and back. Most guys like a progessive rate coil at least in the front, because it helps support weight and has a better "feel" to it for most guys.

Now, with that (and your budget) in mind, I would look at the Rock Krawler 2.5" Flex System. It has the front adjustable track bar and adjustable front lower control arms already in the kit. Also, it has a progressive rate coil in the front and a linear coil in the rear. Kinda like best of both worlds!

Rock Krawler JK 2.5 Flex System

I know this is a lot if info. If you have any questions, feel free to PM, email, or call us at anytime my friend! We would be more than happy to talk lifts!

-Jason

flyinion 05-01-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rhinoxj89 (Post 3706101)
thanks i will take a look at this. what is your review on this lift? Any issue post install and what extra hardware did you have to buy to make the lift work?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckey73 (Post 3705891)
As expected I'm gonna recommend the MetalCloak product, they make really good stuff. Take a gander at their website. JK Wrangler Unlimited 2.5" Dual-Rate Lift Kit

Another recommendation for Metal Cloak here as well. I went with a step up from the kit that mckey recommended JK Wrangler 3.5" Dual-Rate Lift Kit and got the version with OME shocks included. JK Wrangler Dual-Rate Lift Kit, 2.5"/3.5", ARB Edition The ONLY thing I added was exhaust spacers to give clearance for the front driveshaft. You WILL need them if you go with their kit with the OME shocks as the shocks are long travel and you will usually see them listed as being for 3.5-5 or 4-6" lifts. They're about 27.2"/27.7" front/rear fully extended. That's like 5-6" over stock in the front. Teraflex says their spacers give an extra 7" of droop in the front, well you nearly use all of that with the MC ARB edition kit :)

Of course if you go with the 1199 kit you can use whatever shocks you want. I would recommend at least that one because it's more complete. It comes with a front trackbar so you can re-center the axle, you can specify the rear bump size (the cheaper kit comes with a 4" bump which is pretty high), and you can use it with stock backspaced wheels due to the rear trackbar relocation bracket. Here's a link to my install thread for my MC kit http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ins...cs-228297.html

edit: The only difference between the 1199 kit and the 1599 ARB edition is the 1599 kit has shocks, the 1199 kit does not. Everything else is the same. So if you have a favorite shock and it's cheaper than $400 for 4 of them then you'd want to go that route and get the 1199 kit.

JeffC 05-01-2013 10:50 PM

It really depends how you're going to use the Jeep. I have a JKUR and went with the TF 2.5" coils and shock extenders. I live in AZ and this kit suits me very well no complaints.
Sorry, I disagree with the statement that replacement shocks are "100% better than stock."
IMO, if you have the cash and expect to max out your travel ... get the shocks.

WhiskeyMike 05-01-2013 11:10 PM

+1 on the TF 2.5 with shocks. I have the 2.5 with Rancho 9100 shocks and it's an awesome setup for DD with a fair amount of offroad. Straight forward DIY install as well.

flyinion 05-01-2013 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffC (Post 3708749)
Sorry, I disagree with the statement that replacement shocks are "100% better than stock."
IMO, if you have the cash and expect to max out your travel ... get the shocks.

If you have the Rubicon or Sahara shocks maybe. The ones on the Sport suck big time. My ome shocks are waaayyyyyyyyyyyyy better than the stock sport junk. IMO

Tagg 05-02-2013 06:54 AM

Has anyone installed the Rough Country 2.5" Lift and shocks kit ? Part # PERF678. Any experience ? Thanks.

XTRyan 05-02-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Salty1 (Post 3706335)
Understanding that your biased and want to sell your products I would hope that your knock on AEV would be backed up with some hardcore facts so that those of us who went the AEV route and are very satisfied can learn from our "mistakes".

Personally I feel you loose credibility when you tell people that the AEV lifts are made for the street and gravel roads, maybe I need to tell my Jeep that it is not supposed to be mountain climbing and used as an off road vehicle...... So how about some facts maybe start with "any off-roading or hauling" and show us some actual comparisons with similar Jeeps equipped with each manufacturers lifts.

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Originally Posted by guppy (Post 3706431)
I have an 09 Rubicon Unlimited and a 13 Sport Unlimited.
The 09 has a budget boost 2.5 TF lift with AEV drop brackets and TF front adjustable track bar, 33" Duratrac's.
The 2013 has 2.5 AEV lift with AEV drop brackets and 35's.
Both drive great on the road.
Both have done everything I asked of them off road.
I installed both lifts myself and would be curious to exactly what makes Zach think the AEV lift is less capable then the TF.

To be realistic what are lifts: Longer coil springs, longer shocks, both companies make an adjustment for the rear track bar. Some form of adjustment for the sway bar end links, and some way of creating more brake line length.
At 2.5 inches of lift that is about all there is to it.

Zach I would be curious to what exactly makes the AEV lift less capable off road? Is it the springs, shocks, rear track bar mount, sway bar end links, brake line drop brackets. Is there something else?

If you are knowledgeable enough to make statements as to the weight carrying/offroad capabilities of AEV's lift then please enlighten us to what component of the lift that makes them so much less capable.

To the OP you can not go wrong IMO with either of these companies as they both make great procucts along with many others companies you will see recommended here on this forum.

I was in no way saying AEV was a bad kit at all. I have seen a ton of AEV products on the trail, and not only do they make a great product, some of them are just plain cool. Their rear bumper water tank is one of the coolest ideas I have seen for a Jeep.

I was saying that the Teraflex kit is geared toward the more hardcore off road crowd where as the AEV is geared toward being a more street friendly suspension kit. AEV and Teraflex both ride great on the street and will get you into places you wouldn't dream of while stock.

No hard feelings guys! I wasn't hating on AEV, may have worded my post wrong that's all.

-Zach

guppy 05-02-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeTerrain (Post 3709808)
I was saying that the Teraflex kit is geared toward the more hardcore off road crowd where as the AEV is geared toward being a more street friendly suspension kit.
-Zach

Well thats good news! I thought my AEV kit was limited to gravel roads as it's off road capabilities.

No hard feelings but lets be fair, if you have this opinion please tell us why?

Jaxpilot 05-02-2013 10:17 AM

So, to follow up on the OPs question, what is the recommendation for a complete one and done kit? My deal is this. I bought the jeep because my wife is a cancer survivor and has always wanted one. Technically, it's "my" vehicle, but I'm driving the Sonata to work everyday. :)

We (she) homeschool our 5 and 8 yr olds, so after they finish school each day she drive over to the beach on an almost daily basis. On weekends I'll be pulling a SeaDoo, and 2 or 3 days a week we drive about a 60 mile commute.

I want to do a lift as a first major mod, but it has to maintain or improve her daily driving feel or I'll hear it forever. I don't want to change the 255/75/17s anytime soon, so I'm looking for that "perfect for me" kit that will maintain or improve daily feel, handle loose/wet sand while launching the SeaDoo from ramp or beach, not have a dozen things to do after the install to "fix" things, and it cost effective. My birthday and Father's Day are coming up, so I'd like to get the wish list in her hands. :)

The other consideration is she doesn't want to do any mods, so I'm trying to prevent the I told you so moment from a lift gone bad.

guppy 05-02-2013 11:40 AM

Jaxpilot are you going to do the install or are you going to have it done?

XTRyan 05-02-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by guppy (Post 3710175)
Well thats good news! I thought my AEV kit was limited to gravel roads as it's off road capabilities.

No hard feelings but lets be fair, if you have this opinion please tell us why?

Heck, even a stock Jeep can handle more than a gravel road! That was a really bad way to word that post.:hide:

Honestly it's not an opinion I have, it's just an observation I made. Over the years I have always heard about how great AEV rode on the street but I have hardly ever heard about it's performance offroad other than seeing 2 or 3 on the trail.

Happy Jeeping!

-Zach

Jaxpilot 05-02-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guppy (Post 3710517)
Jaxpilot are you going to do the install or are you going to have it done?

I'm probably going to have an engineer / mechanic / A&P /IA. friend to help me. I worked on my airplane before, some major stuff, under the watchful eye of an A&P certificated mechanic.

While I know the term trackbar, sway bar, links, etc., at this point I wouldn't know one if you slapped me upside the head with it. :)

Paul

rhinoxj89 05-02-2013 01:12 PM

Sounds like the Teraflex 2.5 with shocks will be the way for me to go. Should i look into drop brackets or trackbar for the teraflex?

KrawlOff-Road.com 05-02-2013 01:17 PM

Yes. Like I said above, the front adjustable trackbar and front adjustable lower control arms will really help with the on road drivablity. Without it, the front axle wont be where it needs to be and the JK will feel flighty and wonder a bit. Some see it more than others though. So, you dont HAVE to hav them but it is a good ideal.

Here is a link to the TF 2.5" with shocks that your looking at with free shipping:
TeraFlex JK 2.5 inch Lift Kit, W/Shocks

Here is a great option for the trackbar and control arms that would be cheaper than going the TF route. Still free shipping as well:
Rock Krawler Bomb Proof Adjustable Front Track Bar
and
Rock Krawler High Clearance Adjustable Front Lower Control Arms

Then, not sure what year your JK is but if it is a 2012-13, you will need one of these too:
TeraFlex JK Exhaust Spacer Kit for 2012-13 Driver and Passenger

If you have any other questions, please let me know my friend!

-Jason

Z-TJ 05-02-2013 01:25 PM

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I have the the Rock Krawler Flex 2.5" and could not be happer! It ride just as good as stock if not better. I paired it with some Blistien 5100s. Here are some pics.

Z-TJ 05-02-2013 01:26 PM

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It only let me post one pic. Oh and the ladies love it:punk:

KrawlOff-Road.com 05-02-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-TJ (Post 3710908)
I have the the Rock Krawler Flex 2.5" and could not be happer! It ride just as good as stock if not better. I paired it with some Blistien 5100s. Here are some pics.

NICE! Sorry to get off track but PM where that was...

-Jason

guppy 05-02-2013 02:02 PM

Jaxpilot you and your A&P buddy will breeze thru a lift install.
I suspect some of the problems that rear their ugly head are due to lazy installers.
It would be real easy to think you could get away with not loosening all upper and lower control arm bolts (before install) or the even bigger one is if an installer is installing the lift, and the jeep is up in the air, tightening bolts (after the lift install) without the jeep being weight on wheels. It certainly would be easier to tighten/torque with the jeep in the air, but this is not the correct way.

Cheapest way to lift IMO is TF budget boost 2.5" + AEV drop brackets should give you same ride as stock. The springs stay the same as do the shocks (if you use the extensions). The AEV drop brackets keep the control arms as if they are at stock angles. This may be the answer to both you and the OP but that depends on what your needs are.

Like I said before not one company mentioned in all the previous posts is going to give you a bad product. It just comes down to what you want/need.

My 09 Rubicon I have this exact set-up plus the TF adjustable front track bar. It does everything I want offroad and drives and rides as good as any stock jeep.
I could say the same about my AEV 2.5"+ AEV drop brackets, lift on my 13 sport.
Youtube has exact install videos for TF budget boost.
Good Luck to both of you.
Last thing...Your wife may not like getting in and out of the jeep after the lift.:redface:

JTPhoto JK 05-02-2013 02:34 PM

Wow opinions sure differ here..
Our Jeeps spend 90% of the time on the highway. I ran 2.5" TF lifts on 2 Jeeps with shock extensions and they both handle like stock with NO extra components other then what came in the TF kits. The spring lift is a little stiffer but the budget boost rode exactly like stock. There is No need for adjustable control arms or adjustable front track bar on a 2.5" lift.
The point of the AEV drop brackets is so you don't need adjustable control arms.. The AEV brackets just do the same thing as lengthening the lower control arm, they return the castor to near factory spec..

The bad wrap AEV gets is from the hardcore guys who complaint that the drop brackets really get beat up bad on the trails cause they hang down.

KrawlOff-Road.com 05-02-2013 03:05 PM

Question...

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Originally Posted by JTPhoto JK (Post 3711136)
There is No need for adjustable control arms or adjustable front track bar on a 2.5" lift.
The point of the AEV drop brackets is so you don't need adjustable control arms.. The AEV brackets just do the same thing as lengthening the lower control arm, they return the castor to near factory spec..

If you dont run either the correction brackets (AEV) or adjustable lower control arms, how are you fixing the castor?

-Jason


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