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AdamLC 05-01-2013 08:51 PM

New jeep, what lift do I have here?
 
I just purchased this 2003 TJ and I'm in need of a little help from the lift/suspension gurus. From the part number on the spring I found out it is a rubicon express 3.5" spring but the fixed length LCAs I'm not sure about, I didnt see the, on the RE kit. Is that a DPA, I've heard they ar no good for small lifts like this. Also looks like an aftermarket track bar but stock tie rod. Bump stops look correct? Would appreciate any help in identifying what I've got.

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PStov98TJ 05-01-2013 08:57 PM

Looks like a DPA to me too. Not sure about the track bar brand. But to check the bumpstops you'll need to remove the springs and check everything at full bump, full flex on each side and full droop. That'll tell you if everything clears and if your bumpstops are properly adjusted.

It may just be the picture but I'd definitely check your clearances. Looks like there's a mark on the diff where something is hitting it.

AdamLC 05-01-2013 09:24 PM

If it is a DPA should i ditch it for a standard one. From what i understand and have read on here the drag link & track bar should be about the same angle. Or does that only apply to stock track bar?

UnlimitedLJ04 05-01-2013 09:33 PM

DPA, control arm mount destroying poly bushing fixed length arms, diff smashing track bar....it's all junk, but nothing that can't be replaced with good parts.

PStov98TJ 05-01-2013 09:36 PM

Nope you're right on! Good job on the research. If it is a DPA (I'll let someone else chime in to confirm it), then you should definitely ditch it for a stock one regardless of the track bar being stock or not. It's all about the angles.

PStov98TJ 05-01-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 (Post 3708347)
DPA, control arm mount destroying poly bushing fixed length arms, diff smashing track bar....it's all junk, but nothing that can't be replaced with good parts.

And this is the guy you need to listen too. Confirmed the DPA and my suspicion of the TB hitting the diff.

AdamLC 05-01-2013 10:24 PM

Thanks. Ill be looking for a DPA then, the track bar isn't hitting the diff, it's some blue paint marker or something. How are you all lifting your rigs up high enough to take springs out and check for binding or clearance issues. My floor jack probably won't touch it. On another note Ill be tackling a RMS tomorrow so I'm looking forward to that.

UnlimitedLJ04 05-01-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamLC (Post 3708647)
Thanks. Ill be looking for a DPA then,

no, you want a stock pitman arm.

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Originally Posted by AdamLC (Post 3708647)
the track bar isn't hitting the diff,

you don't know that until you check. it's straight over the diff, no bend, so it's pretty much guaranteed to hit.

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Originally Posted by AdamLC (Post 3708647)
How are you all lifting your rigs up high enough to take springs out and check for binding or clearance issues.

like this:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/corr...gth-70047.html
and like this:
JK Lift Install & Suspension Lessons Learned - JeepForum.com

PStov98TJ 05-01-2013 10:38 PM

A real floor jack and jack stands for me. It only needs to be high enough to get the tires off when the suspension is at full droop.

TJDave 05-01-2013 10:41 PM

With your floor jack, jack it up as high as you safely can. Use jack stands on the frame by the control arm mounts. Remove tires and wheels. Unbolt lower shock mounts and sway bar mounts. You can let one side of the axle droop to the floor while you lift up on the other side. That's how I remove my springs.
You can rent a spring compressor at a local auto parts store that makes it even easier.

AdamLC 05-09-2013 11:55 PM

I went ahead and ordered a stock pitman arm and have all the parts for a ZJ tie rod swap. Other thing I was wondering was about the bump stop extensions. Is it on the frame side or the puck on the axle?

PStov98TJ 05-09-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamLC (Post 3740035)
I went ahead and ordered a stock pitman arm and have all the parts for a ZJ tie rod swap. Other thing I was wondering was about the bump stop extensions. Is it on the frame side or the puck on the axle?

In the front you add hockey pucks (or similar stuff) to the pad on the axle. In the rear you add it to the frame side. Make sense?

AdamLC 05-10-2013 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PStov98TJ (Post 3740044)
In the front you add hockey pucks (or similar stuff) to the pad on the axle. In the rear you add it to the frame side. Make sense?

Yes thanks. Ill be getting a 1.25" BL, MML, install the tie rod/pitman arm and new zone shocks and figure out my bump stop/clearance situation.

PStov98TJ 05-10-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamLC (Post 3740091)

Yes thanks. Ill be getting a 1.25" BL, MML, install the tie rod/pitman arm and new zone shocks and figure out my bump stop/clearance situation.

Good luck with the lift!

argenwler 07-03-2013 10:05 AM

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Having problem too trying to know how many inches my Ruby is lifted, please help.
Tires, LT 305/70R 16, about 33 inches in diameter.
Front shocks about 22 inches measuring from bolt to bolt.
Rear shocks about 20 inches measuring same way.
Frame rails are about 20 inches from the ground at center of vehicle.
I also found a 1.5 inch spacer between tranfer case carrier and frame rail.

argenwler 07-03-2013 10:14 AM

Thanks.


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