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bato 05-03-2013 09:29 AM

Body rust
 
What's the best/most efficient way to deal with this. It's a 2006 and the rest of the body is in perfect condition except for the rocker under the passenger side door. I don't know why it's rusting like this but it's really starting to piss me off. I want to fix it before it get's too bad. What are my options here? I know nothing about body work or rust. Is there an easy-cheap way I can fix this? It just makes the jeep look terrible.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7287/rustog.jpg

krisbman 05-03-2013 09:54 AM

Weld in a patch panel and have the side refinished. That is the best way. The most efficient way is to put some POR 15 on it.

bato 05-03-2013 10:29 AM

What if I scuffed it up good, painted on some POR 15 and then put a rocker guard over it? Would that keep it from rusting? That way I wouldn't have to weld anything or get it re-painted. Just a thought I guess...

krisbman 05-03-2013 12:06 PM

Yep it will stop it. A big ole band aid!

bato 05-03-2013 12:12 PM

So should I just take some sandpaper and really scratch up the spots and the paint around it and then just slather on the POR, let it dry and slap on some rocker guards?

krisbman 05-03-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bato (Post 3715079)
So should I just take some sandpaper and really scratch up the spots and the paint around it and then just slather on the POR, let it dry and slap on some rocker guards?

Use a wire brush to knock the scaly crap off the brush some POR 15 on. Be sure to wear gloves

bato 05-03-2013 01:07 PM

Thanks, I think that's what I'm going to do. Will the POR stick to paint Alright? I've read it will last a long time on rusty metal but how about paint? I was thinking just slather it on over the rust holes and surrounding chipped paint.

Rock Kicker 05-03-2013 01:29 PM

Good info. I've got the same prob on my 03 under the license plate. I think I'm going to take a die grinder to it, follow the por 15 advice, and throw on corner guards.

Bato, not sure how reliable my source is cuz I can't remember where I heard it, but someone said that por 15 is great with rust but wont attach to bare metal or paint. I don't know from personal experience, but just thought I'd share. If you find out before me, let me know...

krisbman 05-03-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bato (Post 3715250)
Thanks, I think that's what I'm going to do. Will the POR stick to paint Alright? I've read it will last a long time on rusty metal but how about paint? I was thinking just slather it on over the rust holes and surrounding chipped paint.

Will stick if u sand the paint.

bato 05-03-2013 01:34 PM

Thanks. Do you think just sanding it by hand with some rough sandpaper will do it?

TJ-GTR 05-03-2013 01:39 PM

Rust in that area comes from behind the panel. The rust on the surface is the result of what's happening underneath or on the backside of that panel. Sanding and repainting only delays the same process from happening again. The only way to stop it, is to remove the metal and replace it. I know that's not the popular answer but, it comes from experience. Good Luck!

bato 05-03-2013 01:54 PM

Unfortunately your right. It's also rusting on the inside. It's something i probably should have done professionally but I would imagine that's an expensive job am I right?

krisbman 05-03-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bato (Post 3715454)
Unfortunately your right. It's also rusting on the inside. It's something i probably should have done professionally but I would imagine that's an expensive job am I right?

It wont be cheap but it wont be ungodly expensive.

RevCo666 05-03-2013 02:18 PM

I recently had some major rust on the metal fenders. Normally if it was surface rust only, I would clean off all of the rust, acetone, prime, paint and clear coat but because my situation was abit more severe I chose to have a local bodyman do the work as welding was involved and I don't have all the right tools. Here's some before and after shots of the driver side. (also used rock guard underneath to give it abit more protection.)

PS it cost me 400 bones for both sides.

RevCo666 05-03-2013 02:19 PM

A few more shots of the passenger side.

Rock Kicker 05-03-2013 03:38 PM

RevCo, How much did that cost? Mine is in the same area, but just where the metal folds and meets the flare...I was going to do it myself, but my air compressor isn't big enough to keep my tools working on a constant and would take forever.

RevCo666 05-03-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Kicker (Post 3715804)
RevCo, How much did that cost? Mine is in the same area, but just where the metal folds and meets the flare...I was going to do it myself, but my air compressor isn't big enough to keep my tools working on a constant and would take forever.

As per my post, 400$ or bones to some :) It was like that when I bought it last summer (the rust) but I made a bad assumption it was only surface so in my mind I thought I could fix it. During the winter, I had a closer look as it appeared to be getting bigger and yep when a finger can push thru, thats where my job would end and the bodyman's begins. I am no favorite to bondo crap, so the welding was a need to get this done right. Only abit peeved that the bodyman used the color code and didn't go with matching faded paint. Barely noticeable so I hope it will fade ok, if not meh! lol

okie41 05-03-2013 07:03 PM

What is POR

RevCo666 05-03-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by okie41 (Post 3716488)
What is POR

POR15, Inc. - Stop Rust Permanently - Repair Gas & Fuel Tanks

Welcome to the forum btw!

okie41 05-03-2013 07:42 PM

Thanks , just dropped the gas tank shield on my 93 wrangler, wire whee[ed surface rust & dirt off painted it with Rustoleum . All the nuts & bolts put in mueratic acid to remove rust & then rinised in water then dipped in rustoleum. Where can i find POR 15? thanks

RevCo666 05-03-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by okie41 (Post 3716631)
Thanks , just dropped the gas tank shield on my 93 wrangler, wire whee[ed surface rust & dirt off painted it with Rustoleum . All the nuts & bolts put in mueratic acid to remove rust & then rinised in water then dipped in rustoleum. Where can i find POR 15? thanks

Not sure, I'm Canadian and thats a special order product if I tried to get it here... Any of my U.S. brothers care to answer that question??

callingupthunder 05-03-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bato (Post 3714695)
What if I scuffed it up good, painted on some POR 15 and then put a rocker guard over it? Would that keep it from rusting? That way I wouldn't have to weld anything or get it re-painted. Just a thought I guess...

This is exactly what I did and thus far it's made me feel a lot better.

RevCo666 05-03-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by callingupthunder (Post 3716657)
This is exactly what I did and thus far it's made me feel a lot better.

Holy caramba... Another first poster lol welcome to the gang!!

krisbman 05-03-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RevCo666 (Post 3716638)

Not sure, I'm Canadian and thats a special order product if I tried to get it here... Any of my U.S. brothers care to answer that question??

You can get it online or at a automotive paint store.

okie41 05-03-2013 08:17 PM

Wow POR15 $44.95 a quart

krisbman 05-03-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by okie41 (Post 3716741)
Wow POR15 $44.95 a quart

Cheaper than having me cut out all the cancer, weld in fresh metal, do bondo work then prime n paint it by a long shot.

krisbman 05-03-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by okie41 (Post 3716741)
Wow POR15 $44.95 a quart

Get a pint. You dont need a quart

RevCo666 05-03-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3716740)
You can get it online or at a automotive paint store.

Thanks krisbman!

krisbman 05-03-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RevCo666 (Post 3716753)

Thanks krisbman!

No problemo

RevCo666 05-03-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by krisbman (Post 3716746)
Cheaper than having me cut out all the cancer, weld in fresh metal, do bondo work then prime n paint it by a long shot.

I take you have used POR15 before? If so got any pics to share?


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