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microage97 05-05-2013 03:16 PM

Door Removal
 
Ok Noob having issue removing the doors on my 2 door jk. Took the door nuts off with a torx 50 bit and undid the harness but I have 1 thick wire that appears to not have a connector. Searched high and low and can't for the life of me find out how this 1 wire disconnects. I have manual windows but the door locks appear to be powered as when I lock one door the other locks as well. I have also undid the door retaining strap and nothing...

Help!

Dave

bartlanz 05-05-2013 03:28 PM

Please take a picture and post it.

Does your Jeep have any aftermarket electric locks, or security system? On my JK the power locks and windows that go to the door are in the same strap that holds the door from opening to much, and up under the dash there is a plug that unhooks with a bit of work the first time.

scottmphoto 05-05-2013 04:02 PM

Yeah man that is weird....everything should disconnect from the harness.

relyt 05-05-2013 05:09 PM

Sounds like an aftermarket alarm to me. You may have to cut the wires on both sides and add a quick disconnect depending on how it is installed.

microage97 05-06-2013 11:10 AM

Thanks Guys. Ok the harness only tells the computer when the door is open or not. IE the radio doesn't shutoff now when key is removed and door opens, but this wire does run / signal the other lock as I have power locks for the keyless entry. It is a standard option, but seems they didn't figure that someone with keyless entry would remove the doors. I have felt up all the way that I can and no connector to where it goes into something under the dash. I also took off a couple of screws that hold the lower door pocket plastic thingie on and nope as well. Stumped.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...505_153335.jpg

scottmphoto 05-06-2013 11:14 AM

Hold your breath and snip.

woansleftpeg 05-06-2013 11:20 AM

They're just wires. Disconnect the battery, cut them, add a shielded quick connector to each one, then reconnect the battery and see what happens (or doesn't happen) with the wire(s) disconnected.

microage97 05-06-2013 11:31 AM

Ok I think it is just one solid wire as opposed to a couple of wires in a sheath. I will check out some shielded quick connectors.

woansleftpeg 05-06-2013 11:35 AM

Start by cutting open the sheath and seeing how many wires are in there (but please, disconnect the negative terminal on your battery first so that nothing, including you, goes bang). That will tell you the gauge, or at least give you a good idea as to the gauge, and that way you'll know which connectors to get.

I would be surprised if it's a single cable underneath that sheath.

microage97 05-06-2013 01:36 PM

Ok found out some more info. On the drivers side the wire is actually 3 wires (Red, Black, Purple) that go into a factory moles along with a bunch of others. So it appears this jeep wasn't really meant to go doorless (face palm). I will look into maybe a 3 wire molex or insulted female to male spade connectors or some such.

woansleftpeg 05-06-2013 01:40 PM

If there's already a molex connector on it, why don't you just undo that?

microage97 05-06-2013 01:49 PM

Ok it has a bunch of other wires going to it and then there is the pass side which is zip tied for a ways and I can't tell what it is doing after it goes into the center section of the dash. So I figure a new quick connect would make life easier.

microage97 05-07-2013 08:25 PM

Ok I snipped the wire after disconnecting the battery. Turns out that it is actually 6 wires in the bundle. Taped each of the wires up and disconnected the molex connector on the driver's side.

Couldn't get the doors off however. Removed the nuts and they will not budge a bit. Used a little PB blaster on the hinges. Looks like they have had a bit of MN road salt on them...

TigheK 05-07-2013 09:49 PM

Interesting. Had the doors off my 2012 JKR recently. It has all the things that aren't really needed; power locks, power windows, etc... All of the wiring was done through the single factory connector.

Tighe

Abnormal-JK 05-08-2013 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microage97 (Post 3731163)
Couldn't get the doors off however.

Did you try swinging it our 90 degrees?

Planet DCJ: How to Remove Jeep Wrangler Doors - YouTube

whetstone 05-08-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua_Pines (Post 3732614)
Did you try swinging it our 90 degrees?

Planet DCJ: How to Remove Jeep Wrangler Doors - YouTube

Lol, did you even read what the op's issue is, or look at the pics he posted? Swinging the door out 90* isn't going to solve having an extra wire bundle with no disconnects... :whistling:

Lusus_Naturae 05-08-2013 07:11 AM

What were the wires running to?

whetstone 05-08-2013 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lusus_Naturae (Post 3732719)
What were the wires running to?

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/doo...al-240403.html

microage97 05-08-2013 07:54 AM

Thanks guys for all the help. Yup tried all kinds of angles from almost closed to almost 100% open. I don't think they have ever been off and there appears to be some rust bubbling the paint a bit on the hing knuckle. MN is horrible when it comes to road salt. I made sure I went through the car was a couple times a month to get it off, but maybe that was too much.

I am going to give this a try:

How to take stuck doors off a Jeep Wrangler. - YouTube

microage97 05-08-2013 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whetstone (Post 3732740)

There appears to be some kind of after market eletric door locks / keyless entry that was added after the factory. Maybe the dealer installed it. It appears very professionally done. The wire in question is actually 6 18g wires in the sheath. It was installed without any quick disconnects, so I disconnected the battery and cut and taped it. I am planning to put in 6 pin molex quick disconnects when I get around to getting a new fob for the entry.

Abnormal-JK 05-08-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whetstone (Post 3732709)

Lol, did you even read what the op's issue is, or look at the pics he posted? Swinging the door out 90* isn't going to solve having an extra wire bundle with no disconnects... :whistling:

Yep I did, he also said that after cutting the wires he still couldn't get the doors off after removing the bolts... Just trying to help...

ChaseRedJK 05-08-2013 10:26 AM

I had a hard time getting my passenger door off the first time. I bought my Jeep with 20k miles on it and had the doors off within the first couple weeks I owned it. I believe it was the first time they had been off because I really struggled with the passenger door.

I just hit the seam in the hinge with some wd40 and work the door open and closed several times.. let it set.. hit it again.. repeat..

DO NOT under any circumstances try to use anything to aide in removing the door such as a jack.

You should be able to get them off after a good dose of wd40.. make sure and have a good grip on the door though.. almost dropped my when it finally broke loose.

I always put just a little bit of wd40 on my hinge pin when I put my doors back on and they slide right out the next time I go to take them off. Always put your hinge bolts back on.. keeps the dirt out.

Dont give up man... all Jeeps are made to go doorless :)

Riccochet 05-08-2013 11:56 AM

white lithium grease the door pins once you get the doors off. They'll never stick again. WD40 or PB is great for un-sticking a stuck pin, but is too thin to provide any lasting lubrication.

ChaseRedJK 05-09-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riccochet (Post 3733548)
white lithium grease the door pins once you get the doors off. They'll never stick again. WD40 or PB is great for un-sticking a stuck pin, but is too thin to provide any lasting lubrication.



True, I need to get some new stuff.. WD40 also attracts dirt slightly.

Good point.

ChaseRedJK 05-09-2013 01:23 PM

also.. i need to get some stuff to help my zippers out on my top.. any suggestions? doesn't bestop sell some zipper lube?

elclipo 05-09-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaseRedJK (Post 3737722)
also.. i need to get some stuff to help my zippers out on my top.. any suggestions? doesn't bestop sell some zipper lube?

I got the Bestop lube and it works wonders for me.

Bestop 11206-00 - Bestop® Soft Top Zipper Cleaner & Lubricant 2 oz. - Quadratec

Blastek 05-09-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whetstone (Post 3732709)
Lol, did you even read what the op's issue is, or look at the pics he posted? Swinging the door out 90* isn't going to solve having an extra wire bundle with no disconnects... :whistling:

Actually, it was you who didn't read. He already snipped the bundle. The door is stuck in the hinge.

microage97 05-09-2013 02:45 PM

Ya hit the hing with more PB blaster and swung doors a bunch still no budge... sigh.. Going to try the ratchet strap method next.

jkjeeper06 05-09-2013 03:14 PM

Here is how I got mine off the first time:

Cut a 4x4 so its 1/2 taller than the distance of the bottom of the door to the floor. Open door. Lift rocker panel to raise edge of door and put 4x4 under it. Hold door. Have someone easily step on the jeep being careful not to jump. It should pop right off. Make sure the block is close to the hinge, not the outside. You don't want it to torque the hinges

Riccochet 05-09-2013 06:55 PM

or just man handle it and yank that sucker off. :)


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