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pineda22 05-06-2013 07:49 PM

lincon/miller locker
 
Hey guys I have a 2000 tj sport stock gears on 33s I was thinking about welding the rear end because i cant reall afford a e-locker and i got stuck bear hunting last sunday (nothing to winch off of and was alone) but I'm not sure how this will hold up as a daily driver?

1jeeplvr 05-06-2013 07:51 PM

I wouldent on a DD. I think thats a real bad idea but others will chime in Im sure

Cons_Table 05-06-2013 07:59 PM

Assuming you do a good job welding, it should hold up fine. HOWEVER, expect accelerated tire wear in the rear since your tires are gonna turn at the same speed no matter what...which will result in dragging tires in turns.

Now this is talking a decent axle. If you are running the D35, you are just increasing your chances of blowing it up due to the added stress the "spool" will create.

530ktm 05-06-2013 08:00 PM

Not a real good idea for a Jeep you plan on driving on the streets as well.

Jerry Bransford 05-06-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pineda22 (Post 3726509)
Hey guys I have a 2000 tj sport stock gears on 33s I was thinking about welding the rear end because i cant reall afford a e-locker and i got stuck bear hunting last sunday (nothing to winch off of and was alone) but I'm not sure how this will hold up as a daily driver?

Two considerations to think about...

- Don't even think about welding the gears if your rear axle is a Dana 35. Its axle shafts aren't strong enough once a locker/spool is installed. Especially with your 33" tires. It would only be strong enough with a rear axle like a Dana 44, Ford 8.8, etc.

- Your tires will chirp & skid around on corners when you're on pavement and it may be a tad squirrely even when driving straight, especially when driving around curves. On icy or otherwise slick streets, it may be a real handful at times.

That said, some who have strong enough rear axles that Lincoln-lock them say they don't mind the street manners at all.

pineda22 05-06-2013 08:50 PM

Thanks for the input everybody I'm plenty confident in my welding as I do it on heavy equipment daily is there any way to visually tell if it's a d35vsd44? I can't find any markings or tags thanks again guys

Jerry Bransford 05-06-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pineda22 (Post 3726809)
Thanks for the input everybody I'm plenty confident in my welding as I do it on heavy equipment daily is there any way to visually tell if it's a d35vsd44? I can't find any markings or tags thanks again guys

Dana 35 has perfectly oval shaped differential cover with a black plastic snap-in plug for the lubricant fill hole. The D44's cover is more angular shaped with a threaded steel plug in its lube fill hole.

pineda22 05-06-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3726826)
Dana 35 has perfectly oval shaped differential cover with a black plastic snap-in plug for the lubricant fill hole. The D44's cover is more angular shaped with a threaded steel plug in its lube fill hole.

Thanks Jerry now my next question is what would be better for the $ upgrading the internals or sealing for a d44?

Jerry Bransford 05-06-2013 09:02 PM

You can sometimes buy a used Dana 44 for cheaper than some Super 35 upgrade kits cost to make the D35 strong enough for a locker. So that's going to be a financial vs. a how much is your labor worth kind of decision. Personally, I sold my first TJ's D35 and bought a used D44.

Cons_Table 05-06-2013 09:50 PM

I know as soon as I get a truck to daily drive...ill be welding up my 8.8...unless I get crazy and swap tons. :whistling:

kyjeep 05-06-2013 10:25 PM

I don't ever recommend anyone weld a diff but if you do you have to keep it warm and let it cool slowly. If not the carrier will dissipate heat quickly and the welds will crack.

Yeahbro 05-07-2013 02:50 AM

IMHO even if your running the Dana 35 a lunchbox locker is a great cheap option. Look into Aussie lockers. They replace the spider gears in your stock carrier and only cost about 250 depending on the axle. I have them in my yj and drive it on the street daily with no issues. Wheel it hard as well.

Big Cole 05-07-2013 05:39 AM

I run a spool any chevelle, which has the AME characteristics as a Lincoln locker. Its a pain to drive on the street and will certainly destroy my tires. My advice is to save a couple hundred dollars and buy a lunch box locker for your front axle.

pineda22 05-07-2013 12:11 PM

thanks for the info everybody it is greatly appreciated

530ktm 05-07-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Cole (Post 3728265)
My advice is to save a couple hundred dollars and buy a lunch box locker for your front axle.

:thumb: This would be a good way to go if you want a locker and you have the D35 in the rear.

pineda22 05-07-2013 03:26 PM

hey guys i jus found a spartan "lunchbox" locker for $238.79 and gearing (4.56 ratio) front $92.79 rear $143.70 (just the ring and pinion both axles only have 3kmiles since rebuilt PO had it done and had recipts when i bought it) im used to seeing prices for semi parts haha are these good prices?


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