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Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 01:08 PM

Steering stabilizer question...
 
So, I just put a 4" Skyjacker lift and 33" Mickey T's on my 03 Rubicon and I need to replace the steering stabilizer. I was just about to order a Rancho version off Amazon. Before I do this, is there anything I need to know? Does the type of stabilizer change due to the lift? This is the one I was looking at...

Rancho RS5407 RS5000 Series Steering Stabilizer : Amazon.com : Automotive

Jerry Bransford 05-07-2013 01:14 PM

That stabilizer is a good choice and it will work fine. Lift height doesn't really affect it. :)

Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 01:26 PM

Thanks Jerry. Do I have to buy the bracket mounting kit or will I be able to fit it where the existing stabilizer is?

Angus Brown 05-07-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Kicker (Post 3729617)
Thanks Jerry. Do I have to buy the bracket mounting kit or will I be able to fit it where the existing stabilizer is?

That's an OE-style replacement, you can just re-use your original mounting hardware as long as it's not damaged/rusted/etc.

Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 01:45 PM

Thanks Angus. Now to start looking at wheel spacers and brake pads. Should I hold off on the alignment till the stabilizer and spacers are on? Didn't know if they'd throw it back off...

Angus Brown 05-07-2013 02:06 PM

The stabilizer won't affect alignment, but I don't know regarding the spacers, I've never used them or set the alignment on a vehicle that had them installed. I would assume that since they are supposed to sit flush to the hub that it wouldn't change the alignment at all.

UnlimitedRubicon 05-07-2013 02:15 PM

If I were going with Rancho, it would be the RS7000MT.

Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 02:20 PM

Thanks again Angus.

U.R., I'll look into it.

Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 02:22 PM

Isn't that just a shock, not a stabilizer?

UnlimitedRubicon 05-07-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Kicker (Post 3729812)
Isn't that just a shock, not a stabilizer?


part number RS7407

rancho rs7000mt steering stabilizer

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...p;d=1367338412

Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 03:00 PM

Thanks. It kept coming up in the shocks and not in the stabilizers. Great pic.

UnlimitedRubicon 05-07-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Kicker (Post 3729977)
Thanks. It kept coming up in the shocks and not in the stabilizers. Great pic.

Just to clarify - that's kjeeper10's pic (JK?). I was just using it for illustration but the part number RS7407 shows as bolting onto stock mounts for TJs.

Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 03:47 PM

Ya, I found it on amazon for $87 and it said it fits my jeep. However, I may just go with the other one I mentioned earlier. It's $33 less and this vehicle is going to be 95% daily driver, rarely on the trails. Winter snow is the biggest obstacle she'll be dealing with. Still debating on the wheel spacers though. Some say it's needed for added stability, others say I don't need them...

Water Dog 05-07-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Kicker (Post 3729670)
Should I hold off on the alignment till the stabilizer and spacers are on? Didn't know if they'd throw it back off...

I would align it asap. The spacers and the stabilizer won't affect alignment. But the 4" lift will toe it in a lot. Probably about an inch. If you drive it like that, not only will you wear tires quick, but you're also a candidate for death wobble.

Jerry Bransford 05-07-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UnlimitedRubicon (Post 3729787)
If I were going with Rancho, it would be the RS7000MT.

The RS5000 is an excellent choice for use as a steering damper (aka stabilizer). I'm on my 4th or 5th over the years & most recently installed Rancho's RS5000. It's just a steering damper, nothing more. Now if it was being used as a shock absorber for all four wheels, I wouldn't choose the RS5000. :)

UnlimitedRubicon 05-07-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 3730209)
It's just a steering damper, nothing more.

All steering stabilizers are not created equal, though. Some have stiffer valving and some like the rs7000mt have a nitrogen charge that according to the mfg will "tightening steering performance". I prefer a tighter steering feel so I bought an OME sd48 that has stiffer valving. I don't like the feel of the OEM unit with standard issue tire size and can only imagine how much I'd hate it when I go to 35/12.50s. For a $20 or $30 difference I feel it's worth it. Different strokes for different folks. :)

freeskier 05-07-2013 06:10 PM

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A proper set up does NOT need a steering stabilizer. Its sole purpose is to absorb energy from bumps and stuff, which makes your parts last longer. You don't need some fancy nitrogen charged stabilizer to have tight steering. Any cheap stabilizer will get the job done. The Monroe OE replacement seems to be popular because it's easy to get at any auto parts store and is cheap.

That fancy rancho stabilizer isn't tightening anything up, it's simply adding more resistance which makes it feel tighter, when in reality it's doing nothing but making your pump and steering box work harder.

Rock Kicker 05-07-2013 06:36 PM

All good info. Thanks everyone. My stabilizer is shot as it is, hence the replacement. Alignment is set for 8am tomorrow.

UnlimitedRubicon 05-08-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 3730591)
A proper set up does NOT need a steering stabilizer.


Jeep doesn't know about a proper setup?


Quote:

Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 3730591)
Its sole purpose is to absorb energy from bumps and stuff, which makes your parts last longer.


I am most concerned about the "stuff" stuff.


Quote:

Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 3730591)
You don't need some fancy nitrogen charged stabilizer to have tight steering. Any cheap stabilizer will get the job done.


You don't need fancy Wrangler MT/R tires to have good traction. Cheap Cornell 1000 tires will get the job done.


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Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 3730591)
That fancy rancho stabilizer isn't tightening anything up, it's simply adding more resistance which makes it feel tighter


duh


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Originally Posted by freeskier (Post 3730591)
when in reality it's doing nothing but making your pump and steering box work harder.


What makes your pump and steering box work harder? A fancy steering stabilizer or 35x12.5 tires?


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