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tlminh 05-07-2013 01:09 PM

HELP, I rattle canned my PSC bumper, it looks . . . rattle canned
 
Have PSC bumper hanging from my harken hoist

1. I cleaned it 3x with mineral spirits, then wiped it down
2. 1 coat of self etching primer
3. 3 coats of primer

Waited 24 hours

1. Sanded down with 220/320 grit
2. Cleaned down with tack cloth
3. Light coat of rustoleum black hammered
4. 3 more coats of this rattle can

Problem - it has areas that shine and areas that don't. Looks like your typical bad rattle can paint job

What can i do now? I was going to sand it down again and use a different painting technique (start from side then keep finger on nozzle and don't double back)

Greg_2012_JKU 05-07-2013 01:12 PM

Could you post up some pics?

MTH 05-07-2013 01:13 PM

Take it to a body shop and have them strip it and powdercoat it. Maybe $300 total. Could be less depending on how much work it is to strip it. It'll look better than just about anything you can do with a rattlecan.

dale 3 05-07-2013 01:40 PM

That's the problem with Rcans,not steady regulated pressure and the paint shows for that.Frig it let it dry,Lay part flat,Get a new can,Spray that bitch no letting of on trigger,Go as slow as you can.No runs with plenty of paint (that's the key).What have you got to loose now? 1 more shot? If NG then have a pro do it.

WhiskeyMike 05-07-2013 01:54 PM

If you didn't use one, try getting a pistol grip at Home Depot or similar. They are $5 and dramatically improved the quality of finishes I've done with rattle cans. I also used Rustoleum Bed Liner and the texture greatly improves the look and hides blemishes. I'm not sure if the hammered has a similar look.

This is similar to the grip I use. http://www.amazon.com/Rust-oleum-243...an+pistol+grip It keeps constant pressure on the nozzle so there isn,t as much fluctuation.

kramer2k 05-07-2013 01:56 PM

This is exactly my complaint with rattle canned stuff and why I never recommend it. It looks...rattle canned as you mentioned.

I fear you just added to the cost of powder coating since they'll have to spend more time sand blasting it now. It's worth it in the end though.

Painting can be fine for smaller stuff, but a beautiful PSC bumper will draw a lot of attention.

lee indy 05-07-2013 01:58 PM

i use rustoelum spray on bed liner. i get asked who powder coated it all the time.

RemoJK 05-07-2013 02:07 PM

rattled my cross member cause it will get trashed anyway, I don't think it turned out that bad.
Just do light coats every so often, but I don't know if I'd try it with a bumper
http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...E9D9DF8A86.jpg

Now I just need to figure out how to get inside of it

kramer2k 05-07-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Remo
Now I just need to figure out how to get inside of it

Powder coat? :whistling:

:D

robdizzle 05-07-2013 02:25 PM

I'd would sand or grind it all off and use duplicolor spray in bed liner. I've used it many times for my racks on my quad and a few things for my jk. Always turns out great if you prep right.

TOK 05-07-2013 02:35 PM

I think the issue with your technique is that you possibly sprayed too close... You get a thick first coat in spots and that creates that "banded" look or different levels of glossiness.

If rattle cans are a good option for you, I'd do a light wet sand and spray it again. Stay at least 10-12" away and don't concern yourself with getting it all covered in one coat. Good luck!

BLK2012 05-07-2013 03:00 PM

I have painted mini bikes etc this way. After painting I just wet sanded with very fine grit and buffed out.

It looked even, very good. Some others thought I sent it out and had it done.

tlminh 05-07-2013 05:37 PM

I sanded down a little bit and sprayed it again with a better technique (going the entire length of the bumper and not doubling back and forth). It looks a lot better, but now the glossiness is in the form of vertical lines LOL.

I think I will take the advice and will try to wet sand it when it all dries up, then buff it out

This is my first time painting any automotive stuff, so lessons learned there.

I really dont want to send it out to get it professionally done, I've gone this far and will finish the job HOOAH

tlminh 05-07-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012 (Post 3729979)
I have painted mini bikes etc this way. After painting I just wet sanded with very fine grit and buffed out.

It looked even, very good. Some others thought I sent it out and had it done.

What did you buff it out with?

ohioviper 05-07-2013 06:00 PM

For the cost of paying someone to paint it or powder coat it you can buy your very own air compressor and spray gun and do a professional job on it yourself and anything else you want to do later,plus you will now have air for power tools ect.

Jaker jk 05-07-2013 08:45 PM

Why didn't you just use spray can bedliner , would have came out really nice

tlminh 05-07-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaker jk (Post 3731268)
Why didn't you just use spray can bedliner , would have came out really nice

It was between flat black, Bedliner or hammered. I did some research and hammered looked so I went with it. Live and learn. The hammered finish looks great, just need to find a way to blend it all together

Smokinjoe 05-07-2013 09:17 PM

I like to use satin black ez to touch up just painted my PSC rear bumper

Jaker jk 05-07-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tlminh (Post 3731393)
It was between flat black, Bedliner or hammered. I did some research and hammered looked so I went with it. Live and learn. The hammered finish looks great, just need to find a way to blend it all together

I don't know what hammerd is , but isn't like bedliner

Bedliner is cool in more ways then just black , it makes a really good base and is pretty even to spray

Now what could have help is bedlining it and then go over with the hammer stuff , when I need colors I use bedliner and go over it with any color I want
Like here
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps1a6b0bb3.jpg
Here is a better picture
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...psf3c92e31.jpg

tlminh 05-07-2013 10:24 PM

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Attached some photos of the current paint

Notice some of the tiger stripes. This is the best looking so far :facepalm:

Tips on how to salvage are appreciated

Jaker jk 05-07-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tlminh (Post 3731742)
Attached some photos of the current paint

Notice some of the tiger stripes. This is the best looking so far :facepalm:

Tips on how to salvage are appreciated

Back up a little farther away to where you are getting a more of a evenly mist coming out

tlminh 05-07-2013 10:51 PM

Another option is to sand it down and respray with bedliner? just gonna put some 120 grit, 220 grit, then 320 grit and spray it with the bedliner?

I'm have no clue . . .

JKBrad 05-07-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaker jk (Post 3731818)
Back up a little farther away to where you are getting a more of a evenly mist coming out

I agree. Too close and you need to move the spray pattern at an even pace. Once you get good with a rattle can, and it takes practice, you can make items as big as bumpers look like they were professionally done.

Jaker jk 05-07-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tlminh (Post 3731840)
Another option is to sand it down and respray with bedliner? just gonna put some 120 grit, 220 grit, then 320 grit and spray it with the bedliner?

I'm have no clue . . .

From your pictures you don't need to do any sanding , you put down a good base for the bedliner

Get a can of bedliner and spray away

BillyPete 05-08-2013 04:54 AM

I have used the hammered paint on alot of projects, I buy it in quarts and then use a cheepo wagner airless sprayer to apply. The end result is amazing and wont give you the tiger stripe look you now have with the RC.

black betty2012 05-08-2013 06:38 AM

Might have been lil too cold as well if it looks like its blushing.

RemoJK 05-08-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kramer2k (Post 3729806)
Powder coat? :whistling:

:D

I'm cheap haha

gorillahydrographics 05-08-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlminh (Post 3731742)
Attached some photos of the current paint

Notice some of the tiger stripes. This is the best looking so far :facepalm:

Tips on how to salvage are appreciated

1. You did not get even coverage - you should overlap your strokes slightly. make sure your holding the can at a level angle and a even speed. You dont need to go fast but not slow either. Do not use the back and forth method. Do one even pass from one end to the other. The from the end you stopped at go back the opposite direction slightly over lapping.

2. Hold the rattle can about 6-8 inches from the item your spraying.

3. Scuff it up again and re-paint.

tlminh 05-11-2013 08:40 AM

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I think it's been salvaged . . .

I wetsanded her all down with 600 grit then resprayed using a much better technique (slow, with propper overlapping)

Letting her dry a few days then will install . . . we'll see! thanks for the help!

tlminh 05-11-2013 06:07 PM

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I think I saved it!

For anyone who's never rattle canned before, just take your time. There was a week of trial and error for me . . . Great feeling paint and install on your own!


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