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BLK00TJ 05-10-2013 08:59 PM

I need new front axle shafts
 
I spit the front passenger u-joint and ripped up the ears of the axle so I need a new shaft. I have a buddy that's going to give me a stock replacement but I'm interested in upgrading to chromolys. I heard Superior has gone under so what other good brands are out there? Ten factory? Nitro? Alloy USA? Any better than the other? I am interested in a "Made in the USA" tag too.

Another thing I'm considering is replacing the stocker and upgrade to 30 spline when I eventually do the ARB. Any sense to this?

sduncan 05-10-2013 10:11 PM

Since Superior is no more....Ten Factory is the only one I'd go with.

PHILDABEAST 05-11-2013 02:39 AM

If you've got some deep pockets you could go with RCV's.

BLK00TJ 05-11-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PHILDABEAST (Post 3743707)
If you've got some deep pockets you could go with RCV's.

There's only so much I'm willing to do to polish this turd :D
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Originally Posted by sduncan (Post 3743290)
Since Superior is no more....Ten Factory is the only one I'd go with.

I think that is what I as leaning towards. I think I'll get the free stock as a replacement for now and get the chromolys when I can afford them easier in a few months.

BLK00TJ 05-13-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PHILDABEAST (Post 3743707)
If you've got some deep pockets you could go with RCV's.

On second thought, I think I'd rather go with RCVs after reading more on them. My plan now is to replace a free stocker and hopefully get it to last the rest of this season and get RCVs with a rebuild kit in case one side does happen to break on the trail. If I were to get decent chromolys and super joints, I'm almost to that price range anyway.

Are their any bad sides to RCVs?

Moabrubi 05-13-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK00TJ (Post 3752132)
Are their any bad sides to RCVs?

Only bad side is they won't work easy with the Vanco BBK if later on you want some more stopping power. IIRC they require some major grinding.

I have Ten Factories, but if I had the cash I would love a set of RCV's.

Pirateover50 05-13-2013 07:54 PM

Just recieved my RCV's. Got tired of broken u-joints and ears... Not sure of I can say this but best price I found was from SBC Offroad Engineering...

PHILDABEAST 05-13-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Moabrubi (Post 3752229)

Only bad side is they won't work easy with the Vanco BBK if later on you want some more stopping power. IIRC they require some major grinding.

I have Ten Factories, but if I had the cash I would love a set of RCV's.

I know they need a fair amount of grinding to the inside of the knuckle, but can you explain the interference with the BBK? Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread here.

BLK00TJ 05-13-2013 08:07 PM

I looked into the grinding bit. It seems to be required for TJ/LJs in order to make room for the boot. I don't consider it major though since you only need to notch out about 1/16" of the bolt holes on the knuckles and they provide a template to make sure you grinded enough.

I was about to order the ten factories but then I got to thinking that I'd have been in the same situation if I already had them. My u-joint failed while trying to get up on a rock at near-full lock causing the ears to "self clearance" themselves. I still hear the loud bang in my nightmares. When I do step up to 35" tires, that issue could be more of a problem.

All in all we had a bad weekend. It all started with my friends Scrambler breaking a Ford 9"rear axle. About five minutes later he broke the other side since it was a full spool. Then trying to get off the trail he broke one side on the front with a full spool. He was pulled the rest of the way out with Next up was me shattering my axle. One of the guys that helped me get off the trail laughed until he broke the same way later in the day. To round out the weekend, the friend I followed home that was towing his friends CJ broke a trailer axle 30 minutes from home.

blueskiesbill 05-13-2013 08:14 PM

ROFL!!! That seems like it would have been a great time to be the innocent bystander :popcorn:

Still a little upset that I was not made aware of this trip!!! ;-)

BLK00TJ 05-13-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blueskiesbill (Post 3752360)
ROFL!!! That seems like it would have been a great time to be the innocent bystander :popcorn:

Still a little upset that I was not made aware of this trip!!! ;-)

How many times have I nagged you about joining MJC?:whistling:

Moabrubi 05-13-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PHILDABEAST (Post 3752317)
I know they need a fair amount of grinding to the inside of the knuckle, but can you explain the interference with the BBK? Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread here.

To be honest I don't remember. I never really looked into RCV's because I couldn't justify $1100 for axleshafts on a turd Rubicon 44.

But here's the description of why they won't work from Savvy's website. Although I know I have seen pics somewhere of someone using the Vanco kit and RCV's.


Notice to RCV axle shaft present and future owners– Do not install this kit if you have RCV axle shafts installed or plan to install them. No grinding of any Vanco supplied caliper adapter brackets, spacers, calipers, or hardware is to be done. There is not enough room in the knuckle to install the RCV axle shafts without grinding on the brackets. Grinding on any part of the brake kit can cause catastrophic failure of the brakes resulting in injury or death.

blueskiesbill 05-13-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK00TJ (Post 3752371)
How many times have I nagged you about joining MJC?:whistling:

They don't have an app!!!

BLK00TJ 05-13-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Moabrubi (Post 3752373)
To be honest I don't remember. I never really looked into RCV's because I couldn't justify $1100 for axleshafts on a turd Rubicon 44.

But here's the description of why they won't work from Savvy's website. Although I know I have seen pics somewhere of someone using the Vanco kit and RCV's.


Notice to RCV axle shaft present and future owners– Do not install this kit if you have RCV axle shafts installed or plan to install them. No grinding of any Vanco supplied caliper adapter brackets, spacers, calipers, or hardware is to be done. There is not enough room in the knuckle to install the RCV axle shafts without grinding on the brackets. Grinding on any part of the brake kit can cause catastrophic failure of the brakes resulting in injury or death.

It looks like the vanco brake system uses the unit bearing bolts along with the factory brake mounting holes.
http://www.vancopbs.com/v/vspfiles/p...gories/159.jpg

BLK00TJ 05-13-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blueskiesbill (Post 3752420)
They don't have an app!!!

They do so. It's called Tapatalk. The same one that Pirate4x4 uses :p

PHILDABEAST 05-13-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Moabrubi (Post 3752373)

To be honest I don't remember. I never really looked into RCV's because I couldn't justify $1100 for axleshafts on a turd Rubicon 44.

But here's the description of why they won't work from Savvy's website. Although I know I have seen pics somewhere of someone using the Vanco kit and RCV's.

Notice to RCV axle shaft present and future owners– Do not install this kit if you have RCV axle shafts installed or plan to install them. No grinding of any Vanco supplied caliper adapter brackets, spacers, calipers, or hardware is to be done. There is not enough room in the knuckle to install the RCV axle shafts without grinding on the brackets. Grinding on any part of the brake kit can cause catastrophic failure of the brakes resulting in injury or death.

Hmmm, interesting. Thanks for the info.


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