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AllshoNogo 05-11-2013 05:53 PM

Jeep needs new audio. Suggestions anyone
 
Ok so I have tried to listen to music at a volume that won't hurt my weak little speakers. But the music I listen to DEMAMDS that you turn it up to a volume that is beyond the capabilities of the stock stuff. So, I am looking for any suggestions from jk owners that have upgraded and found a noticeable improvement on sound. I need it LOUD!!

jeepedjeep 05-11-2013 06:29 PM

If you plan on adding a amp and have a JKU check this out. Search Jeep Wrangler Jk Unlimited Under Seat Bracket on ebay. It allows you to mount a amp out of the way a theft.


As for upgrades I did all kicker ds65s and they can get so loud and so clear it is mind boggling. If you are into bass well there are a lot of different set ups. I just got ahold of a JBL 8" that gives me enough bass to say I am happy. my system is ran to look stock but kick some ass. It's all powered by a alpine PDX5 amp.

110w x 4 for the speakers
410w x1 to the sub.

AllshoNogo 05-11-2013 07:04 PM

Thanks jeepedjeep, I actually have a 2dr. But i am sure the aftermarket speakers alone would be much better than stock. Especially with windows and sunrider open.

BigDjeep 05-11-2013 07:37 PM

I have a 2 dr as well I went with a Kenwood DDX-419 receiver and JL c2-650 true components for the front and JL c2-650 non component in the sound bar and I can hear all of my music very well with the top and doors off going 70 down the highway

Mattk11 05-11-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AllshoNogo (Post 3745078)
Ok so I have tried to listen to music at a volume that won't hurt my weak little speakers. But the music I listen to DEMAMDS that you turn it up to a volume that is beyond the capabilities of the stock stuff. So, I am looking for any suggestions from jk owners that have upgraded and found a noticeable improvement on sound. I need it LOUD!!

Yanni??

AllshoNogo 05-11-2013 07:45 PM

Hahahaha. No not yanni. I laughed pretty hard when I read that though

AllshoNogo 05-11-2013 07:45 PM

Thanks bigdjeep. I will check those out.

Dogzilla 05-11-2013 08:16 PM

One day, you're gonna wish you had your eardrums back.

AllshoNogo 05-11-2013 08:40 PM

I already do. Being in the infantry and listening to metal has kind of messed them up anyways. Why not listen loud while I can!!

rundm 05-11-2013 09:24 PM

Buddy of mine just put in a complete wet sounds kit. Everything is splash proof and sounds great. He put in a lot of speakers and amps. I was thinking of doing this for my jeep because of how his sounds.

ahsumtoy 05-11-2013 10:38 PM

Just Make Sure
 
The Jeep's audio system just plain sucks. Make sure you get good quality 4-ohm spkrs, a good amp, and good sub. Have a professional do it if you don't know what you are doing. Most likely you will put the power amp under one of your seats, so you will need to reroute new wires to the amp, not the HU. You can keep whatever Head Unit you have but use PAC LOC's so you can use the 4-ohm spkrs. You can do a search on this site for audio and you will come up with many ways to do this and what to use.

RedSectorA 05-11-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDjeep (Post 3745268)
I have a 2 dr as well I went with a Kenwood DDX-419 receiver and JL c2-650 true components for the front and JL c2-650 non component in the sound bar and I can hear all of my music very well with the top and doors off going 70 down the highway

I had the JL c2-650 components and coax speakers in my last vehicle and loved them. Did they fit with no issue in the stock JK locations?

BigDjeep 05-11-2013 11:53 PM

Everything fit perfectly. Had to mess with them in the sound bar a little bit

nobndry 05-12-2013 08:47 AM

I have Polk MobileMonitors and their range is amazing! They are also marine grade so they are waterproof. :) I was deciding between these and some JL Audio, but the MM won out.

vacca foeda 05-12-2013 10:04 AM

Focal components, Polk 2 ways in the sound bar, jl sub in the back, and a jl 700/5 amp powering it all.

wassup8687 05-12-2013 10:15 AM

I upgraded my HU and it is amazing. I went with the JVC KW-NT810HDT. I have a JKU and have the factory amp.

Haven't touched the speakers.

It's on sale now too.
JVC KW-NT810HDT Navigation receiver at Crutchfield.com

AllshoNogo 05-12-2013 11:12 AM

Not looking to upgrade HU just yet. Trying to save some of that cash for other stuff on the jeep. And I never really go anywhere that would require navi right now. But these are all really great help and I am checking them out to see what I can do!

st1264 05-12-2013 12:52 PM

LOUD = Amp + speakers, minimum. Will need additional hardware to connect to the stock HU or just replace with a new HU and save yourself the trouble.

If you just replace the speakers and are running the stock HU and no amp, you won't get the sound level you want. I'm assuming you have the base system.

10Anvil 05-12-2013 06:15 PM

If you have the 1 year free sirius with the 430N and replace it with a new unit will the subscription roll over?

WatchThis! 05-12-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 10Anvil (Post 3747976)
If you have the 1 year free sirius with the 430N and replace it with a new unit will the subscription roll over?

Good question.
Its no problem with a payed script. Only takes a 5 min phone call to find out.

woansleftpeg 05-12-2013 06:47 PM

Lots of options. You're already said that you want to keep the head unit and I presume that you don't have the premium audio package, so there are three areas to look at:

- Speakers. Replacing the stock speakers won't do much for volume on their own, but aftermarket units will give you much greater volume and clarity when tied to an amp than the stock speakers. You need to consider whether you want a stealth install (i.e. retain the factory covers), if you do then you'll need to get slimline models for the soundbar which restricts your market a little. Front speakers are probably best replaced as a component set (tweeter and woofer separate with a passive crossover), there are lots of options at lots of price points here. Polk Audio are a popular choice amongst WFers, it seems, as they give a good balance between cost, power and efficiency.

- Amplifier. Power is cheap - you can get a 5000W amp for under a hundred bucks if that's what you really want - but size is important when you're putting it in a Jeep as locations are limited. jeepedjeep's underseat bracket looks like a good option but beware that many amps are bigger than can sensibly sit under a seat without getting kicked by rear seat passengers. My recommendation would be to decide on your preferred location, then find an amp that will physically fit there as well as deliver upon your power/price criteria. Unless your money is burning a hole in your pocket I'd probably avoid going too high end, I'm far from convinced that you'll be able to tell the difference between a $150 Kenwood and a $700 JL at 70mph with the roof off. You'll probably also need a line output converter to turn the HU's line outputs into an amp-ready signal, unless you want to get a pop every time you turn it on and a compromise to your sound quality.

- Subwoofer. The importance of this will depend upon your musical preference, if you want to upset the suburban moms by playing NWA at their most aggressive then your sub will matter a, but it's somewhat irrelevant if your thing is Mozart. Again, location for this can be a challenge; subs and their enclosures take up space which is at a premium in your average JK. There's a member on here with a wicked 2 door installation of two 8" subs, one on each side on the wall behind the front seats. That does require some custom building, but it's by far the best I've seen.

10Anvil 05-12-2013 07:24 PM

There a lot of compact amps on the market. I'd suggest the JL XD series. They will easily fit under any of the JK seats.

JL XD200/2 is only 6-7/8"W x 2"H x 7-3/8"D
JL Audio XD200/2 2-channel car amplifier 75 watts RMS x 2 at Crutchfield.com

The JL XD600/1 for a subwoofer is only
8-1/2"W x 2"H x 7-3/8"D

You could fit both of those amps under the rear seats

n00g7 05-12-2013 07:36 PM

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This is the amp you are looking for. Pair with Polk MMs or Infinity Reference.
Amazon.com: Alpine MRX-F65 4-channel Car Amplifier: Electronics

  • 110 Watts x 4 into 4 Ohms
  • 160 Watts x 4 into 2 Ohms

10Anvil 05-12-2013 07:59 PM

I'd suggest this one. Meets all your needs with room for expansion. Powers front and rear components and a sub and will fit under the rear seats.

http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-PDX-V9-...=alpine+pdx-v9


The JL HD900/5 is much better but costs a lot more. As stated, this is a sound quality amp so in a jeep with the top open it won't be worth it.

I just bought a JL XD600/1 used for $200 and a used JL 300/2 for $140.

The JL 300/2 is a bit on the big side at 13.40 in. x 9.25 in. x 2.27 in. but I just measured under the passenger rear seat on a JKU and it will fit with the XD600/1 under the driver side rear passenger seat.

woansleftpeg 05-12-2013 08:03 PM

I'm slightly amused that you're all recommending high end, expensive amplifiers that will meet all of OP's needs when we don't actually know what his needs are.

Are the amps you've listed good? Sure. Are they completely inadequate, massive overkill or exactly what he needs? I don't think anyone can possibly answer that with the information that has so far been presented.

n00g7 05-12-2013 08:12 PM

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I need it LOUD!!

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Originally Posted by woansleftpeg (Post 3748290)
I'm slightly amused that you're all recommending high end, expensive amplifiers that will meet all of OP's needs when we don't actually know what his needs are.

Are the amps you've listed good? Sure. Are they completely inadequate, massive overkill or exactly what he needs? I don't think anyone can possibly answer that with the information that has so far been presented.

He wants loud. That means 4 x quality 6.5s that are 100-125 RMS and an amp that will push that power. Hence, the MRX-F65 and 4x Infinity References. That's about $600 - 650 all said and done including LOC, install kit, wire, etc., provided he uses factory HU. I wouldn't really expect to spend less. If OP wants a sub, then simply add another amp later and he'll still come out below the $450 and :eek: $900 option (not counting speakers, etc).

woansleftpeg 05-12-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by n00g7 (Post 3748323)
He wants loud. That means 4 x quality 6.5s that are 100-125 RMS and an amp that will push that power. Hence, the MRX-F65 and 4x Infinity References. That's about $600 - 650 all said and done including LOC, install kit, wire, etc., provided he uses factory HU. I wouldn't really expect to spend less. If OP wants a sub, then simply add another amp later and he'll still come out below the $450 and :eek: $900 option (not counting speakers, etc).

That's a reasonable position, I think. I was just amused by the three increasingly expensive recommendations in a row, if it had carried on I was concerned that OP would return to his thread to find himself building Jonah Lomu's Patrol.

10Anvil 05-12-2013 08:23 PM

$400 amps are not expensive. $1000 amps are...which is why I only mentioned it in passing.

WatchThis! 05-12-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 10Anvil (Post 3748360)
$400 amps are not expensive. $1000 amps are...which is why I only mentioned it in passing.

It is all relative to who is doing the buying. 15 years ago I was running amps that were 1200 at cost in my comp system and it was the cheap stuff compared to some of the other equipment that some guys were running. But to some people a 400$ amp is expensive when they can pick up one for 100 bucks somewhere.

SuperdaveTX 05-12-2013 08:42 PM

I recently upgraded my truck with Image Dynamics components in the front and coaxials in the back with a JL XD700 5 channel amp. I put in a cheap sub and the whole system rocks. The JL amp is very small. The ID speakers are very clear, crisp, and have good mid bass.

Cost of all 4 IDs was 225! Price went up a bit and is now 169 + 119.

So, the main cost is the amp, but you could get something less expensive than the JL... but again, it rocks.


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