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chrislewis 05-11-2013 08:39 PM

Clutch Problem
 
Here's a new one for me and everyone at the park today. So we were wheeling, for about... 5 hours. All was well, stock TJ doin work. Then all of the sudden, I went through some water, not very deep, maybe a foot, and my clutch stopped working... I had been fording a creek this whole time, a little deeper than the spot where my clutch stopped, and had no problems.

I turned the jeep off because I couldn't put it into gear, even with the clutch pushed to the floor. Turned it back on and was only able to put it into gear with the pedal to the floor, and it was very rough at that. Next, I drove the rest of the day at the park, only taking less than half of an inch of release on the clutch for full gear engagement. I went to leave the park, turned the jeep on, and couldn't get it into gear. Finally slammed it into first and the jeep just took off while shaking, like partial clutch with no gas. I float shifted all the way home and parked it.

We inspected the hydraulic fluid level, it appeared to be the right level, but also appeared to maybe have a little water in it. What should I do? I have lots of Jeep experience, but never have I dealt with a clutch, I was fortunate enough to buy my TJ with a brand new clutch last year. Also that, it's a brand new clutch. Flawless before today.

Thanks for any help in advance. I have to drive over an hour tomorrow and would feel better if I know what was happening.

chrislewis 05-11-2013 09:21 PM

Bump

GingerTJ 05-11-2013 09:24 PM

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Unfortunately I would say examine the clutch fork. I'm not sure this is it but sometimes the little spring clip that holds the fork on can fail and cause weird stuff going on. Look and inspect

chrislewis 05-11-2013 10:06 PM

Might I ask where that is/how to get to it?

03 sahara jeeper 05-11-2013 10:08 PM

The only way to check it is to pull the transmission.

chrislewis 05-11-2013 10:09 PM

:(

Hiatus83 05-11-2013 10:15 PM

and while your inspecting the clutch fork might as well do the clutch job too, cause if you have never done it to your jeep and you have a good amount of miles on it, it will need it soon... fyi

chrislewis 05-11-2013 11:01 PM

It has 78 k and a new clutch almost a year ago

GingerTJ 05-12-2013 08:40 AM

Just slide out the tranny and inspect it. Not that big of a deal. 3 hrs or so

chrislewis 05-15-2013 03:56 PM

Update: after starting the Jeep, clutch works fine for first 3-4 shifts. Then clutch fails.

chrislewis 05-22-2013 10:27 AM

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Newest update, I put a 2 inch coil space lift on and in the process jacked it up 2 feet in the rear first. I tube feel down from near the tranny. This tube began leaking water. About... A quarter gallon.

Now my clutch partially works. As long as i push it to the floor, or about half an inch off the floor, there is no jumping. Then hit about 3/4 an inch and it engages the gear. This picture shows the tube. Anyone have any idea what that could possibly mean? It will consistently work now while driving, just not quite how its supposed to.

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King_Aragon 05-22-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chrislewis (Post 3781553)
Newest update, I put a 2 inch coil space lift on and in the process jacked it up 2 feet in the rear first. I tube feel down from near the tranny. This tube began leaking water. About... A quarter gallon.

Now my clutch partially works. As long as i push it to the floor, or about half an inch off the floor, there is no jumping. Then hit about 3/4 an inch and it engages the gear. This picture shows the tube. Anyone have any idea what that could possibly mean? It will consistently work now while driving, just not quite how its supposed to.

That's on overflow breather hose. If you suspect you got water in the transmission you have to flush the fluid. I got mud water in mine and my synchros went bad, and pretty much the whole transmission is being rebuilt. Extend that line to the highest point on the Jeep should be by your air box. This will prevent any more water in it.

chrislewis 05-22-2013 10:47 AM

Cool, good to know. Do you happen to know if this could effect the clutch?

chrislewis 06-04-2013 07:01 PM

UPDATE: Things have gone terrible south. Was driving, clutch proceeded to go to the floor with no resistance. Now, there is a terrible sound being made when pushing the clutch down. I cannot shift into gear when the vehicle is running. I can shift into gear when it isn't. I have a video of the sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e94rQ0YUWcU

chrislewis 06-04-2013 07:19 PM

Please tell me what's broken. I need to order parts and get to work ASAP. It's my DD and I need it for work everyday... :(

chrislewis 06-04-2013 07:40 PM

Bump for emergency repair.

Water Dog 06-04-2013 07:42 PM

Sounds like it might be the throw out bearing-the bearing that rides in the fork in GingerTJ's picture....It means pulling the tansmission.

chrislewis 06-06-2013 11:09 PM

Well I just got a whole new clutch kit. Throw out bearing included. Figured if I'm in there, might as well do the whole thing

GingerTJ 06-07-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chrislewis (Post 3834558)
Well I just got a whole new clutch kit. Throw out bearing included. Figured if I'm in there, might as well do the whole thing

Also check your clutch slave

jherrington 06-07-2013 03:49 PM

Wow that sounds horrible.

Check your clutch fluid

chrislewis 06-07-2013 04:08 PM

Fluid is brand new and full

Cmoore1776 06-10-2013 09:10 AM

So here it goes......hoping for some insight. My clutch pedal starting getting "sticky" when depressing and releasing it. I also noticed the the tranny would engage closer to the floor when I started to release the clutch. There is some squealing that goes along with this.....primarily when the clutch pedal is up. While the jeep is running and the clutch pedal is depressed I can't put it into gear. If I turn it off then I can put it in gear and when I start it in gear I can feel it try to lurch forward slightly while it's turning over. Once running, still in 1st gear, I can feel that it wants to take off slightly like the clutch isn't fully engaged. I backed the studs off of the slave cylinder to ensure it's engaging when the clutch pedal is depressed. Slave cylinder seems to be operating correctly. Thanks in advance!

chrislewis 06-10-2013 09:48 AM

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Well here was one of my problems. The other was a shredded throw out bearing. Replaced the slave and clutch. Took forever because I didn't have all of the tools and have never done something so involved. It works like new now

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REDY2KTJ 06-10-2013 10:05 PM

GOOD ON YA! Congrats!

GingerTJ 06-10-2013 10:17 PM

Well done

BigEZ 06-11-2013 12:04 AM

you guys beat me to it, but when in doubt with clutch probs, check/replace the slave cylinder. something about the jeep set up, but 75-90k seems to be that zone where they seem to clunk out.

chrislewis 06-13-2013 08:09 PM

The sad part was, the rod fell into the tranny... so no matter what I had to pull it all. Went ahead and threw in the new clutch. It was clearly burnt in a few places and unevenly wearing. Probably down about... 50%. Haven't ever felt a clutch so smooth.


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