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smontesi81 05-12-2013 07:02 PM

Jeep is burning oil fast.. Is this normal?
 
I got my 2dr Wrangler a few months ago and have only driven 4,000 miles. The dealer said they did an oil change and I am not due for my next for another 1,000 miles. I checked the fluid levels today and my oil level was super low.. I had to add 2 quarts to get it back to normal.

Is this normal for Wranglers? I haven't noticed any leaks...

bartlanz 05-12-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smontesi81 (Post 3748287)
I got my 2dr Wrangler a few months ago and have only driven 4,000 miles. The dealer said they did an oil change and I am not due for my next for another 1,000 miles. I checked the fluid levels today and my oil level was super low.. I had to add 2 quarts to get it back to normal.

Is this normal for Wranglers? I haven't noticed any leaks...

According to my dealer 1 quart in 3000 miles is acceptable by factory spec... I find it abnormal personally.

ratmotortom 05-12-2013 07:24 PM

Sounds accessive to me.

smontesi81 05-12-2013 07:29 PM

Ugh since I never actually checked it after I bought it maybe the dealer never actually did either. I will keep my eye on it after my oil change and hope that it doesn't keep up.

jp2611 05-12-2013 07:29 PM

My TJ (I know not the same) and JK both loose very little between oil changes...not even a full quart....IMO I would be hollerin'....but it may not do any good....perhaps with multiple service checks for low oil you MIGHT have a case down the road that there was an issue from the start. Take it to the dealer and get copies of the paperwork everytime....GOOD LUCK!!!

WatchThis! 05-12-2013 07:32 PM

Odds are very good that the dealer will tell you 2 quarts in 4000 miles is ok. Of course that does not mean that it is okay.

bartlanz 05-12-2013 07:35 PM

For the record, I don't agree with my dealer.

jp2611 05-12-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchThis! (Post 3748385)
Odds are very good that the dealer will tell you 2 quarts in 4000 miles is ok. Of course that does not mean that it is okay.

X2 but if you bury them with paperwork later if something does fail, (especially if it is their paperwork) saying nothing is wrong, and you were questioning this issue from the start, your case is a whole lot stronger......but yeah they will probably say that is "normal"

Silverton34 05-12-2013 08:22 PM

Chrysler will tell you one quart in 1,000 miles is normal. It's obviously not.

jeep2007 05-12-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by smontesi81 (Post 3748287)
I got my 2dr Wrangler a few months ago and have only driven 4,000 miles. The dealer said they did an oil change and I am not due for my next for another 1,000 miles. I checked the fluid levels today and my oil level was super low.. I had to add 2 quarts to get it back to normal.

Is this normal for Wranglers? I haven't noticed any leaks...

What year jeep is it ? Because my 07 burned oil like crazy .. They replaced piston rings if memory serves . So are you driving a 3.8 liter or 3.6 liter jeep ? I'm really hoping my 2013 doesn't have those issues

TrueBlueJK 05-12-2013 08:32 PM

This is why I refuse to bring my car to the dealer for any type of service I can do on my own.

chris4x4 05-12-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jeep2007 (Post 3748646)
What year jeep is it ? Because my 07 burned oil like crazy .. They replaced piston rings if memory serves . So are you driving a 3.8 liter or 3.6 liter jeep ? I'm really hoping my 2013 doesn't have those issues

Looking at her past posts, Im pretty sure its an 2007.

smontesi81 05-12-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4 (Post 3748708)
Looking at her past posts, Im pretty sure its an 2007.

Yes it's a 2007.. Sounds like its an issue with that year maybe.. I should research it more and see.

chris4x4 05-12-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smontesi81 (Post 3748741)
Yes it's a 2007.. Sounds like its an issue with that year maybe.. I should research it more and see.

Not really the "year", but rather the 3.8 engine. Keep an eye on it and check it once a week, and see what it does.

jeep2007 05-12-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smontesi81 (Post 3748741)

Yes it's a 2007.. Sounds like its an issue with that year maybe.. I should research it more and see.

Looking at my service records , the dealer did replace piston rings(under warranty) on my 3.8 and the oil level was perfect since ..

LewdDude 05-12-2013 09:06 PM

My '08 started burning about 2qts per 3000 miles at about 51k miles. At 54k miles bearings 4 & 6 were destroyed and it needed a brand new long block. :-/ this is a common issue sadly. Good luck! I traded it in on a 2013 Sahara in commando green! Hoping the 3.6 liter is a better motor... TBD

smontesi81 05-12-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeep2007 (Post 3748770)

Looking at my service records , the dealer did replace piston rings(under warranty) on my 3.8 and the oil level was perfect since ..

Thanks for checking! Maybe I will ask for this at my next service!

jeep2007 05-12-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smontesi81 (Post 3748843)

Thanks for checking! Maybe I will ask for this at my next service!

Your welcome .. I hope the dealer helps you .. I've read too many stories of dealers ignoring the issue and saying its normal to burn that much oil .. I was lucky that my dealer here in Illinois was well aware of the 3.8 oil issues and was good about resolving it .. My 07 had 87000 when I traded it in and now I'm loving the 2013 :)

scottmphoto 05-13-2013 10:59 AM

Not that this really helps, but I just changed out my oil at 9800m on my 2012 (oil had about 5k on it) and it was clear, full, and probably could have run another few thousand miles.

MangoTango34 05-13-2013 11:17 AM

I havent driven my 2011 enough yet to notice any oil loss problems, but i have thought of a solution.

How about you just take out the 3.8 and put in a 6.4 Turbo Hemi like what Teraflex did? Or maybe a 4BT Cummins like Project Rattletrap?

Baby Huey 05-13-2013 02:25 PM

Oil Consumption
 
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Originally Posted by jeep2007 (Post 3748770)
Looking at my service records , the dealer did replace piston rings(under warranty) on my 3.8 and the oil level was perfect since ..

Yes, I thank you also , for looking at your records....
This is the first post that I have found so far with a "fix" to this oil consumption problem.
I also have a 07, 41K miles, and it uses oil....This Fix is good to know, now I can plan a engine re-ring job for later this summer or fall.....
There has been lots of posts about this problem on this forum, but so much speculation and no real solid evidence of the cause of the oil usage or repair.
Thanks again !! BH :popcorn:

clayps 05-13-2013 02:57 PM

Just added 1 quart after 1700 km (1056 miles) of driving since last oil change. After doing some research I came to the conclusion that this is somewhat common in Wranglers as well as a lot of other vehicles. Not going to lose sleep over it. I check my oil weekly.

OffRoadWarrior 05-13-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smontesi81 (Post 3748379)
Ugh since I never actually checked it after I bought it maybe the dealer never actually did either. I will keep my eye on it after my oil change and hope that it doesn't keep up.

This sounds like a good plan. I know the 3.6 takes 6 quarts, it's always possible the lackey changing it didn't put enough in.

jeep2007 05-13-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Huey (Post 3751133)

Yes, I thank you also , for looking at your records....
This is the first post that I have found so far with a "fix" to this oil consumption problem.
I also have a 07, 41K miles, and it uses oil....This Fix is good to know, now I can plan a engine re-ring job for later this summer or fall.....
There has been lots of posts about this problem on this forum, but so much speculation and no real solid evidence of the cause of the oil usage or repair.
Thanks again !! BH :popcorn:

Your welcome ... Huey

MikeK46 05-14-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by smontesi81 (Post 3748287)
I got my 2dr Wrangler a few months ago and have only driven 4,000 miles.

It was most likely already burning oil well before you bought it...

Are you using synthetic or conventional?

smontesi81 05-14-2013 12:53 PM

I put regular in it since I wasn't sure what the dealer used. I am assuming they used synthetic though since they told me I could wait 5,000 for the next oil change.

jk'n 05-14-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverton34 (Post 3748611)
Chrysler will tell you one quart in 1,000 miles is normal. It's obviously not.

This is about what they told me. I've been burning a quart about every 2,000 miles since it was new. Oil changes have occurred every 6,000 miles since new. No change in consumption. I have a lifetime powertrain warranty and since I am the original owner, it is still intact. When the oil consumption starts to go up, I am hoping they will do the right thing and take care of it. They got me a new jeep when my first one leaked. This one has been a workhorse and at 80,000 now on the odometer I am happy with the performance....even with the oil consumption. So, yah, even though it probably isn't normal, Chrysler will say that it is and your jeep will keep going and going as long as you keep puttn' oil in it. BTW, no smoke in the exhaust even with my consumption.

MercMan 05-14-2013 02:12 PM

So out of curioosity if it is the piston rings how much would that cost to repair approximately?

jk'n 05-14-2013 02:30 PM

Out of warranty I would guess it would be prohibitive. I'm only guessing between $1000.00 and $2,000.00 because of all of the labor of removing the heads and dropping the pan to be able to get the pistons out of the cylinder. If I had to do it on my jeep out of warranty at the mileage that is on it now I might just spring for a short block. Remove mine. Do the ring job on it. And set it on the shelf in wait until either my wife's jeep or mine needs it. Nice to have two of these the exact same year and model.

MercMan 05-14-2013 02:35 PM

So then the alternative is to just add oil in between changes? I find the dipstick difficult to read on my 07 but I am thinking I am burning oil. This weekend I am going to drain the oil, only 2000 miles on it and see whats in there. Sucks if this is the case with such an expensive fix...


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