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Cameron138 05-12-2013 09:50 PM

Lift question. Hate me.
 
Alright, I have a 1997, no lift. It's starting to get some spring sag, and I was looking at some 3 inch coil spacers. If I get those what else would I need to do, and how much lift would I get?

Full Spool 05-12-2013 09:54 PM

Not digging that idea

Call me a hater :punk:

Jeffreybomb 05-12-2013 09:56 PM

I don't really understand. Why don't you just get a lift with new springs?

Cameron138 05-12-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffreybomb (Post 3748766)
I don't really understand. Why don't you just get a lift with new springs?

I can't get a lift. Too expensive. I'm only 16 and my parents say it's a no:/

PStov98TJ 05-12-2013 10:08 PM

3" spacers are a but excessive. Start with some 2" spacers. Then extend your bumpstops and get some longer shocks.

CarolinaBound 05-12-2013 10:09 PM

a coil spacer is a lift. And don't go above 2", problem called coil bind. Will run ya $50-100. Or just get 1-2 inch lift springs. Other option is find a guy parting out a rig with less miles and pick up his old ones.

TJDave 05-12-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cameron138 (Post 3748796)
I can't get a lift. Too expensive. I'm only 16 and my parents say it's a no:/

You're 16. Be thankful you have a Jeep. Do what they say.

Life must really suck.

TJspeed 05-12-2013 11:08 PM

Do 2" coil spacers 1.25" body lift and 1" motor lift.

Cameron138 05-12-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TJDave (Post 3748983)

You're 16. Be thankful you have a Jeep. Do what they say.

Life must really suck.

Never said that bud, thankful for what I have, what I'm not thankful for are smartass replys.

Water Dog 05-13-2013 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tjspeed (Post 3749031)
do 2" coil spacers 1.25" body lift and 1" motor lift.

^^x2

TJDave 05-13-2013 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cameron138 (Post 3749118)
Never said that bud, thankful for what I have, what I'm not thankful for are smartass replys.

Sorry. My comment may have been a bit harsh. I am a parent of a driving age teenager.
My #1 concern is her safety, followed by the fact that I am ultimately responsible for her actions in her vehicle while she is still a minor.

A lift is a lift, budget boost or otherwise, and in your own words "it's a no go".

Your 97 springs are sagging. Without offering advice that goes against the wishes of a minor's parents, you could replace the worn out springs with another set from a newer TJ. I just gave away my stock 04 springs that have been hanging out in my garage for a few years.

Good luck. Be safe in your Jeep.

Cameron138 05-13-2013 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TJDave (Post 3749440)

Sorry. My comment may have been a bit harsh. I am a parent of a driving age teenager.
My #1 concern is her safety, followed by the fact that I am ultimately responsible for her actions in her vehicle while she is still a minor.

A lift is a lift, budget boost or otherwise, and in your own words "it's a no go".

Your 97 springs are sagging. Without offering advice that goes against the wishes of a minor's parents, you could replace the worn out springs with another set from a newer TJ. I just gave away my stock 04 springs that have been hanging out in my garage for a few years.

Good luck. Be safe in your Jeep.

Thanks, Il look into new springs.

HobieSailor 05-13-2013 08:02 AM

I dont know where you are but have a complete set of OEM rubicon springs and shocks of my 05' with about 30k miles on them, no sag at all. PM me if interested.

homebrwd 05-13-2013 09:05 AM

You may want to just hang out and do some research. The fact that you asked how much lift you would get from adding in 3in spring spacers makes me nervous. The idea of getting springs form a newer TJ is going to be your best bet and cheaper. You only have to replace springs. Adding spacers you will also need to replace shocks and fix your bump stops. GL.

Water Dog 05-13-2013 11:12 AM

If you can use them (and your folks say its okay) I have a set of 2" spacers and 1" bump stop extensions (no bolts) that you can have if you want to pay postage. Probably around $13. PM if interested.

Jeffreybomb 05-13-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cameron138 (Post 3748796)
I can't get a lift. Too expensive. I'm only 16 and my parents say it's a no:/

My bad. Mistakenly read your initial post "how much lift would I get" as "how much lift should I get."

Offrd 05-13-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HobieSailor (Post 3749975)
I dont know where you are but have a complete set of OEM rubicon springs and shocks of my 05' with about 30k miles on them, no sag at all. PM me if interested.

Just curious, would this change add any lift to my '99 Sport or just not sag?

HobieSailor 05-13-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Offrd (Post 3750466)

Just curious, would this change add any lift to my '99 Sport or just not sag?

No lift with 4.0L, Rubicon springs are not any taller. I think they may be a little stiffer tho...

adkjoe 05-13-2013 01:24 PM

I have stock springs from an 06 with only 28k on them if you want them PM me.

speedyrev 05-13-2013 01:57 PM

If your springs are sagging, spacers aren't the answer. Springs are the answer.
If the Parents say "No Lift", then the only correct solution is replace the springs with the proper ones. You can buy new (safest) or check around a local Jeep club for someone who might have slightly used ones.

SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98 05-13-2013 03:26 PM

Why don't they want you to lift it? If they just say "because I said so" like most parents do then I gotta say its sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.

I'm buying the zone 4.25 combo kit when I'm back in the states because my springs sag very badly in the rear. The kit includes 3" suspension lift 1.25" body lift and 1" motor mount lift, which is to realign the drive train. It only cost about $600 depending on what options you want on it (e.g disconnecting sway bar links or nitrogen charged shocks)

TJDave 05-13-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98 (Post 3751138)
Why don't they want you to lift it? If they just say "because I said so" like most parents do then I gotta say its sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.

Yay! He just might get away with it! :punk:




Or, he may have his Jeep taken away from him.:nonono:




Not good advice. It's too early in life to start high stakes gambling. :)

n00g7 05-13-2013 06:23 PM

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A 4.25 inch lift is pretty noticeable. Just tell your parents you're replacing the sagging springs and get a small coil lift. (e.g., with the OME springs http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-su...j/upgrades.htm) You can put on 31/32's at that point over what I'm assuming are 29's. Then save up for some new shocks (and a body lift/mml if you want to run 33's with the 2.5coils) and leave it at that.

2.5 springs + another inch in height due to tire size will be quite capable.

Water Dog 05-13-2013 06:50 PM

Just a guess here after raising 5 of my own....they probably don't want to pay for it..!

wrangleryj90 05-13-2013 06:57 PM

If you are 16 and parents say no talk to them and explain that this is your hobby don't ask them to help pay for it and explain that off roading is better then playing video games

flflash 05-13-2013 07:07 PM

Man if your 16 and your parents got you a Jeep to drive, probably give you gas money, pay for your registration and Insurance.......As a Father of three who I bought cars and paid all the bills plus put two of them thru college and have one still living at home and attending college....I'd say it would be a good idea to do as your parents ask and if your good, work hard and get good grades maybe they'll surprise you with some GOODIES for your Jeep come Birthday or Christmas time.

Go against their wishes and there's a good chance you'll be walking.

flflash 05-13-2013 07:08 PM

HOWEVER! If the spring sagging issue could be approached as a safety issue and possibly a father son project you might just be in ;)

n00g7 05-13-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by flflash (Post 3751814)
Man if your 16 and your parents got you a Jeep to drive, probably give you gas money, pay for your registration and Insurance.......As a Father of three who I bought cars and paid all the bills plus put two of them thru college and have one still living at home and attending college....I'd say it would be a good idea to do as your parents ask and if your good, work hard and get good grades maybe they'll surprise you with some GOODIES for your Jeep come Birthday or Christmas time.

Go against their wishes and there's a good chance you'll be walking.

What parents don't know can't hurt them... I was making $18/hr in highschool, not minimum wage, and thus spent loads of $$ on cheap liquor. Always parked on the hilly part of the driveway too so my car would roll nicely away from the house before firing it up.

Some Farkin Guy 05-13-2013 07:18 PM

I wish I could've gotten a Jeep when I was 16! My vote is to go with what they say. I would suggest new or slightly used stock springs and a set of 31s. Further down the line try to work in a proper 2-3" spring lift as a father-son project. Do your research though, a budget boost is cheap for a reason.

flflash 05-13-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by n00g7 (Post 3751832)
What parents don't know can't hurt them... I was making $18/hr in highschool, not minimum wage, and thus spent loads of $$ on cheap liquor. Always parked on the hilly part of the driveway too so my car would roll nicely away from the house before firing it up.

Again as a father of three grown children and with a couple grandchildren I'll tell you there was damn little I did'nt know about what my children where doing. If you Love your children thats the way it is.....sounds like your parents loved you and cut you some slack don't think they did'nt know what was going on.


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