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mathew85 05-13-2013 09:59 PM

2013 / Offcamber fabrications MBRP roof rack pics request
 
anyone using this rack on a 2013 JKU?
MBRP Inc. 131894 - Off Camber Fabrications Roof Rack System for 11-13 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited 4 Door - Quadratec

Seginus 05-14-2013 11:03 AM

Interested in this as well but for a 2-dr.

LBrito 05-14-2013 01:10 PM

Search for posts by JIMBOX, he has it on his JK and uses the hell out of it. Knows quite a good deal about them, too. I've seen a lot of his photos floating around the site.

SnowboarderOx 05-22-2013 10:59 AM

I was just looking at this product.

I want a simple two rail system that allows me to put my kayak up there in summer and a cargo box for snowboards in the summer. Not sure if I want to go with this product or something more like a Thule system.

mathew85 05-22-2013 04:35 PM

Ok, so I have purchased this product, and will be setting this up today hopefully. Will try to take pictures and post..

mathew85 05-26-2013 05:00 PM

Installing the off camber fabrications MBRP roof rack on JKU 2013 Rubicon
 
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Vehicle: 2013 JK 4 Door Rubicon
Rack: Off Camber Fabrications MBRP roof rack
Retailer: Quadratec

I purchased this rack from quadratec, and did the install last thursday. Here's my write-up on it.

First off, the box the product came in was huge: 60'x36'x12'ish and ~90lbs
So expect a huge shipment :D
The box barely fit into the back of my JKU when I had to move it.

Unboxing it, there were
2x side pieces
2x front/rear crossbards
1x removable center cross bar
16x nut+bolt+2xWashers set for mounting on roof
8x nut+bolt+1xWasher set for crossbars
4x bolt+washer set to replace the 4 T40 end bolts in the quarter window area.
4 end caps

First I cut out the templates. My one peeve with the template was that there was only one sheet. So the printed side faces you when placing on the passenger side, but on the driver side, you don't have any printing. My fix was to use a light from below and trace the outline on the other side using a pencil.

mathew85 05-26-2013 05:13 PM

Part 2
 
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Next I pasted the templates using clear tape onto the roof. The product says to start on the drivers side, and I did it that way, but I suspect if it would make a difference.

First, I pasted the templates on both sides (one after the other) and held the corresponding piece against the templates to see if the holes line up. I noticed that they lined up better on the passenger side but on the drivers side, they were off by about a quarter off an inch. But then, the pieces have some give, and so I just trusted the templates and went ahead with the drilling.

Drilled pilot holes with 1/16" bit on the driver side and passenger side. Then used 3/8" bit to drill the holes out fully (after removing the templates). I'd definitely say, do the pilot holes first. Drilling directly with the 3/8" bit might send your bit all over the place.

Next placed the brackets on the inside. Then set up the drivers side with 4x gaskets, and 8x bolts+washers. Put this in, and loosely set it up on the inside with 8xlocking nuts+ washers.

Then placed the front and rear cross bars, and held them in place with 4x bolts+washer+nut (washer only on nut side).

Next assembled the passenger side similarly with 4x gaskets and 8xbolts+washers. Put that in and secured loosely with 8xwashers+nuts. Then put the other 4xbolts+washers+nuts for the front and rear cross bars.

Next went around one by one and tightened all bolts. I think what it says is 12 or 15 lb-ft, which is not a whole lot of tightening - so i'd caution against overtightening. I did go around a second round since once you have other nuts tight, the first ones will give some more.

Also, I did spray WD40 on all the nuts before putting them on to prevent galling (the instructions say use some sort of oil).

mathew85 05-26-2013 05:16 PM

Part 3
 
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Finally, with all nuts tightened, I had the center crossbar left. This was the easiest piece. Just use the two knob nuts, and washers to put this in place.

I did not put the grommets into the wiring holes. I decided I'll use it if I actually wire something in. I did not put in the end caps either, since I figured it would be better for water to be able to run off?

I did cover out the 6x grommet holes, and the extra screwing holes for the center cross bar with black tape to prevent water getting in there.

Took it through a car wash afterwards. No leaks. So happy so far :)

And I feel like I get more waves now than before!

PS: I have a picture against a 7' clearance marker, but I took it under 6'9" as well, and I thought there was a couple of inches still. I guess I'd draw the line at around 6'7" I wouldn't want to risk lower than that? Sorry - that number is ballpark and may be wrong - take it for what it's worth - in my case I don't have any lift kit or bigger tires: stock 4dr rubi '13

Gnoz 05-26-2013 06:12 PM

Question:

With this rack can the hardtop be removed as easily as without it?

mathew85 05-26-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnoz (Post 3794737)
Question:

With this rack can the hardtop be removed as easily as without it?

The rack actually adds weight to the roof. So factor that in.
For me it was a 3 person job to take the hard top off, and it pretty much remains the same.

R51 06-16-2013 06:51 PM

Thanks for this detailed writeup. I'm trying to figure out what my clearance will be if/when I get it installed. mathew85 or anyone else with one of these, can you measure front and back how high the rack is above your hard top? I'm only planning on installing the back piece, not the windshield piece. Any info is helpful, thanks.

Blackey4x4 06-16-2013 10:25 PM

After having it for awhile mathew85, do you like it? Does it whistle any? I've been looking at this roof rack for quite awhile.

atreggie 09-10-2013 12:50 AM

Should be installing mine this week! Going to pick it up tomorrow. So stoked!

SnowboarderOx 09-14-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by atreggie (Post 4438441)
Should be installing mine this week! Going to pick it up tomorrow. So stoked!


Well?

atreggie 09-15-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowboarderOx (Post 4580313)

Well?

Sadly, it's sitting in my garage waiting to be installed. I had to run out of town for the weekend. Packaging looked great and all the parts seem to be there. I'll put it on this week sometime and post up.

atreggie 09-20-2013 02:29 AM

Ok. So I started putting this thing on tonight and everything went well except for one thing. Tightening down the upper, rear, driver side bracket it messed up my top (see pics). It looks like the bracket on the inside touches the curve of the fiberglass top (as it curves towards the window) and while tightening it down (to the specified 12 ft.lbs.) it pushes against that curve and cracked the paint on the outside!! Sooo Pissed!!

Template went fine. Lined up like it said it was supposed to..
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1379657354
Holes complete..
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0395.jpg
Tighten down brackets (to 12 ft.lbs.) after everything is put in place. I didn't even get to 12 ft.lbs. on this one!!
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1379658434
And this is what happens!!! NOOOOO!!!
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1379657412
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1379657416
Any suggestions on the best way to fix this? I figured I'd just run down and get a little touch up paint from the dealership and live with it for now, but I'm worried that it'll get worse. Everything else went fine. Rack is on and actually looks good. I also installed the MBRP basket. When the sun comes back out I'll snap a few finished pics and post up.

DIXIEDOG 09-20-2013 07:03 AM

I'd definitely contact the manufacturer of that rack, they will likely offer a solution and possibly even help with the costs associated with that.



To me that is a very poorly designed rack, I don't see why any manufacturer would use a plastic top for a support of a rack rather than making adapter brackets coming off the frame somewhere....those racks are heavy by themselves let alone if you put something on them.

atreggie 09-20-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DIXIEDOG (Post 4720153)
I'd definitely contact the manufacturer of that rack, they will likely offer a solution and possibly even help with the costs associated with that.

To me that is a very poorly designed rack, I don't see why any manufacturer would use a plastic top for a support of a rack rather than making adapter brackets coming off the frame somewhere....those racks are heavy by themselves let alone if you put something on them.

The inner support brackets are metal and they carry the load down to the tub of the jeep so the fiberglass top doesn't actually bear any of the load. But I agree with you on the poor design of this one part. Seems like shaving the edge of that bracket near the curve would have saved me. I'll probable take the inner bracket off this afternoon and shave the corner myself. Or like you said, I'll call MBRP first.

atreggie 09-20-2013 06:13 PM

Here's the final install outcome (Other than fixing the inside issue mentioned before).
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0407.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p.../mbrpfront.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/mbrpside.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0412.jpg
Two things (again, aside from the issue with the inside bracket) that I think MBRP goofed on. 1. They should supply 'black' bolts and washers for the outside mounting hardware. I painted these on my own:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0414.jpg
2. The larger bolts that came with the basket (holding the outside rails together) are to short. They don't come through the nylon part of the locking nut:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0415.jpg
Other than those issues it appears to be a well constructed rack. The welds are great, it's strong as can be, and overall I'm happy with it. Just a few tweaks here an there to finish it up. New, longer bolts (x8), a little black paint, modify one inside bracket, and a little Mopar touch up paint.

atreggie 09-21-2013 06:07 PM

Update on the cracked top:
 
So I notched the inside bracket with my grinder. Touched it up with some paint and reinstalled it. Now I can actually get a little torque on it without it moving the fiberglass.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0421.jpg
Then I pushed the outside crack back down and it just left a few little lines where it cracked. I touched it up with Mopar paint.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0425.jpg
Luckily it's in a spot where I don't think anyone but me will ever notice it.
Hopefully this helps someone else doing this rack. If you notch the inside bracket you should be fine. I really like everything else.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...eggie/Rubi.jpg

jcb-memphis 03-02-2014 08:50 PM

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So, did they ever release this? If so, I am in!!! Would likely need a thule or other sort of sound wind guard, but doable for sure.

Out of curiousity, how high is it from teh stock roof top to the top of the stock (above) basket....I am thinking parking lot and garage data here...

;)

atreggie 03-02-2014 09:41 PM

Not sure if they have the large basket available or not, but here's some measurements from mine (Sorry for the crapy pic - It's dark and raining). I do know you CAN get the front part of the frame that attaches to the windshield (making it a full frame, front-to-back). But I only have the back part so my freedom top is completely open.
Total add from the top of the jeep is about 1 ft (12") with the basket.
Without the basket the bars/frame add about 3.5"-4" from the top of the jeep to the top of the bars.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/IMG_0646.jpg
Hope that helps some..

jcb-memphis 03-02-2014 09:55 PM

Thanks. That is true kindness going out in the rain to answer a question.

HUGELY appreciate that.

atreggie 03-02-2014 10:06 PM

Not a problem. I had to go out there anyway. :)

DOOMSDAYJKU 03-02-2014 11:39 PM

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I have it on my jeep, at first i wasnt sure about it but now im in love with it, doesnt make any wind noise which was one of my concerns, i have 4 rigid lights mounted that work great as well

atreggie 03-02-2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMSDAYJKU (Post 8720833)
I have it on my jeep, at first i wasnt sure about it but now im in love with it, doesnt make any wind noise which was one of my concerns, i have 4 rigid lights mounted that work great as well

WOW! Amazing looking rig! What lift and tire size are you running?

DOOMSDAYJKU 03-03-2014 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by atreggie (Post 8721001)
WOW! Amazing looking rig! What lift and tire size are you running?



Thank you!!
I'm running a 6 in Terra Flex long arm
With 37x13.5x17 M16 tires

ijohn 06-14-2014 11:55 PM

Kayak mount for MBRP rack
 
Purchased this MBRP rack with the front extension. Its on backorder. Would like to order saddle mounts for my kayak. Its a tandem which is almost as long as the JK that needs to sit flat. Can't side mount it. That's why I went with the full rack. What Kayak rack works best with the MPRP? Also how does the kayak rack or saddles attach to the MBRP rack. Its difficult to find any details on how to attach kayak saddles or a kayak rack to the MBRP rack. Pictures are always great if you I have any. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or advice.

Hayseed_JK 09-30-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ijohn (Post 11331170)
Purchased this MBRP rack with the front extension. Its on backorder. Would like to order saddle mounts for my kayak. Its a tandem which is almost as long as the JK that needs to sit flat. Can't side mount it. That's why I went with the full rack. What Kayak rack works best with the MPRP? Also how does the kayak rack or saddles attach to the MBRP rack. Its difficult to find any details on how to attach kayak saddles or a kayak rack to the MBRP rack. Pictures are always great if you I have any. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or advice.

Have the same question.
Will Thule/Yakima cradles mount to this or do they have special cradles available?


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