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carolinagirl2heart 05-15-2013 07:00 PM

New Jeep Owner- Cleaning Questions
 
Good evening! I have been searching the forums for Q&A's on the proper techniques for keeping my Jeep looking her best. I found lots of information on how to keep the black trim, fenders, etc protected and looking brand new ( 303 Aerospace Protector) or (Vynilex). But I can't seem to find what products everyone is using to wash the body of the Jeep. Can anyone help me? Product name, what kind of cloths to use, and the best wax (if I need this) to help the next cleaning go a little easier once I start playing in the mud with her. :thumb:

Thank you in advance for any advice, help, suggestions, anything!!

zerinS4 05-15-2013 07:17 PM

As an OCD car owner for the last several years, I've got just about every detailing spray, brush, cloth, etc you can purchase. I'll probably be laughed at to the extent I detail my vehicles, especially one meant to get dirty, but so be it. To answer your question as to what is the best, well it all comes down to preference at some point.

For the washing phase, I use a power washer and a foam gun with Meguire's Gold Class car wash to first thoroughly soak the vehicle top to bottom. I let it sit for a couple of minutes to work its way through loosening up the surface dirt. The more dirt you can get off without having to use a sponge/mitt, the less chance you have of generating swirl marks. This is especially important if you have mud and dust on your vehicle! I then rinse the vehicle with a lower pressure nozzle. After the loose dirt has been removed, I hit it with a wash bucket with the same soap and use a mitt to get the more stubborn dirt off.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8...392e05be_b.jpg
Untitled by zerind, on Flickr

I've been using Menzerna products happily for the last 8 years and LOVE the products they offer. Other people like Zaino while others yet like any number of items. Understand that some of these products are meant to be applied by machine like a Porter-Cable type buffer, while others are fine being applied by hand.

Because I apply with a machine, I tape off any surfaces I don't want wax getting onto with the machine. Door handles, fender lines, hardtop, etc. I go back and hit some of the tougher areas by hand to apply. On a new vehicle prep, I usually just hit it the paint with a nice glazing product/pad, then apply two layers of sealant. I used Menzerna Finishing Glaze with a glazing pad on my buffer, followed by Menzerna FMJ to seal it with a non-cutting sealant pad. FMJ isn't available anymore but you can buy what they call Power Lock which is the same type product. Removal is always done by hand with microfiber towels. Read the directions for your specific product.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8...fc81f502_b.jpg
Untitled by zerind, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/8...a99fafbf_b.jpg
Untitled by zerind, on Flickr

For leather, I use Lexol cleaners and conditioners. They've been good enough for my Audi Napa leathers over the years so I trust them to do the same on the Jeep leather. I use a combination of Vinylex and 303 Aerospace on the plastic surfaces inside and out. Both are great products, but I like using them for different applications. Vinylex for rubber and 303 for plastic. Personal preference but you can interchange if you'd like.

For the lights, I use Plexus to add a bit of clarity to the taillamps and headlamps. Great product.

For towels, microfiber is your friend. I have a couple of waffle weave towels for drying the car, and microfiber towels for the detail work. You can pick up large packs at Costco for relatively cheap. The softer, the better.

You should check out the Autopia Car Care forums, as well as for your purchasing needs. They offer all kinds of kits that take the guesswork out of what to buy. - Autopia Car Care Products - Car Detailing Supplies, Car Wax, Car Polishers, Auto Detailing

Hope this helps!

Michel347 05-16-2013 10:14 AM

I wash it with ICE cleaner, and then wax it with the ICE wax, I even apply this wax on the black fenders, bumpers, mirrors, everything. It works well, plain simple and quick.

ahsumtoy 05-16-2013 10:19 AM

Washing It
 
I just use a plain hose with a sprayer nossle along with Dawn for my suds. Works for me.

woansleftpeg 05-16-2013 10:22 AM

I pay the man at the local jetwash $15 once every few weeks.

TNwoodsman 05-16-2013 02:05 PM

I am glad someone started this thread. I had similar questions to the OP.
I just got home yesterday with my new Jeep. I drove it 650 miles home so it is covered in dead bugs and I am going to clean it up real good tomorrow.

Question: Dead bugs aside- Do I 1) just wash it, 2) wax it 3) polish it
I have True Blue color and I want to minimize swirl marks but I really want to give it that wow factor that I think wax or polish would do but it being a new car with fresh paint, does it need waxed or polished or just washed real nice? I am probably going to use Meguirs Cold Glass car wash. I am not sure what wax or polish to use. Is there a difference? Recommendations on the caked bug juice/dead bugs that are all over my grill and windshield...?

woansleftpeg 05-16-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNwoodsman (Post 3762199)
Recommendations on the caked bug juice/dead bugs that are all over my grill and windshield...?

https://www.simonizdetaildirect.com/...nd_Tar_Sponge/

These work amazingly well.

RaiderRUBICON 05-16-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahsumtoy (Post 3761350)
I just use a plain hose with a sprayer nossle along with Dawn for my suds. Works for me.

lol, your joking right? lol

Dawn is way too strong for car washing.You knew that right? lol

Jeep Porn 05-16-2013 02:16 PM

Mother nature washes our Jeep. It's a Jeep she is meant to be dirty.

OrdieCPO 05-16-2013 02:25 PM

...yes it will rain eventually!

Senojelyk 05-16-2013 02:29 PM

http://www.adamspolishes.com/t-videos.aspx


That has step by steps for most everything you could need. I bought Adams products (wash/wax/clay) and have absolutely loved them so far. When it rains I don't get water spots, only a few swirl marks after 3 washes, literally a few like 3 or 4 that are barely noticeable. Their stuff works great, hands down the best wash/wax I've ever used.

meschwenk 05-16-2013 02:33 PM

Take a look!

http://www.adamspolishes.com/ everything you need to clean your vehicle all in one place. Lot's of videos on how to use the products.

panthermark 05-16-2013 02:37 PM

My Wrangler has been washed once since I picked it up in early November. I should probably do more to take care of it....but this is the first vehicle that I've had where I just don't care. I mean, I'm not going to trash it...but I don't mind if it is dirty.

TwoJeepsinTx 05-16-2013 02:42 PM

Car washes are like diets. Anything will work if you do it regularly. That said, the last time I washed any automobile was probably 10 years ago.

Lou Bunn 05-16-2013 03:15 PM

I'd add that Autopia.org is a great place to learn detailing, lots of opinions of course but keep it simple and don't go with the $$=value, it doesn't especially when you talk high dollar waxes. I have detailed on the side to help put my oldest through college and after doing a 94 Wrangler - damn if my youngest daughter didn't get the Jeep bug and still has it after 4 years! That's why I'm here, I know there will be a Jeep in the driveway some day in the future.
For washing, get 2 buckets, a grout sponge from Home Depot and some Duragloss car wash. Rinse first and then use one bucket for the wash, the other is your rinse bucket. You'll be surprised at the dirt in the rinse after the suds fade!
Wax - I like Blackfire Wet Diamond, pricy at 40 bucks for 16 oz, but it lasts a long time, easy on & off and is slicker than snot on a doorknob.
Invest in some good microfibre towels like Vroom at Target too. Oh - Stoners Invisable Glass rocks too! Keep your seats clean, mild soap (Woolite 20:1) and vacuum so the dirt doesn't grind into the fabric or vinyl.

carolinagirl2heart 05-16-2013 08:13 PM

Thank you for the information. You are better than google! I really appreciate it very much! I guess I have "first jeep" jitters...

redbilly 05-16-2013 08:27 PM

I hit the underbody with a pressure washer first (I like to play). Then I use Maguire's soap on the body to clean things up. Lucas Oil cleaning products are some off the best I have found. I use their interior cleaner, they make a specific plastic trim cleaner that rocks and I use their speed wax as well. (The speed wax is once every month or so.) For deep waxing I use Turtle Wax and an orbital buffer. The Lucas Oil wax just needs a few old t-shirts!

carolinagirl2heart 05-16-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerinS4 (Post 3759193)
As an OCD car owner for the last several years, I've got just about every detailing spray, brush, cloth, etc you can purchase. I'll probably be laughed at to the extent I detail my vehicles, especially one meant to get dirty, but so be it. To answer your question as to what is the best, well it all comes down to preference at some point.

For the washing phase, I use a power washer and a foam gun with Meguire's Gold Class car wash to first thoroughly soak the vehicle top to bottom. I let it sit for a couple of minutes to work its way through loosening up the surface dirt. The more dirt you can get off without having to use a sponge/mitt, the less chance you have of generating swirl marks. This is especially important if you have mud and dust on your vehicle! I then rinse the vehicle with a lower pressure nozzle. After the loose dirt has been removed, I hit it with a wash bucket with the same soap and use a mitt to get the more stubborn dirt off.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8...392e05be_b.jpg
Untitled by zerind, on Flickr

I've been using Menzerna products happily for the last 8 years and LOVE the products they offer. Other people like Zaino while others yet like any number of items. Understand that some of these products are meant to be applied by machine like a Porter-Cable type buffer, while others are fine being applied by hand.

Because I apply with a machine, I tape off any surfaces I don't want wax getting onto with the machine. Door handles, fender lines, hardtop, etc. I go back and hit some of the tougher areas by hand to apply. On a new vehicle prep, I usually just hit it the paint with a nice glazing product/pad, then apply two layers of sealant. I used Menzerna Finishing Glaze with a glazing pad on my buffer, followed by Menzerna FMJ to seal it with a non-cutting sealant pad. FMJ isn't available anymore but you can buy what they call Power Lock which is the same type product. Removal is always done by hand with microfiber towels. Read the directions for your specific product.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8...fc81f502_b.jpg
Untitled by zerind, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/8...a99fafbf_b.jpg
Untitled by zerind, on Flickr

For leather, I use Lexol cleaners and conditioners. They've been good enough for my Audi Napa leathers over the years so I trust them to do the same on the Jeep leather. I use a combination of Vinylex and 303 Aerospace on the plastic surfaces inside and out. Both are great products, but I like using them for different applications. Vinylex for rubber and 303 for plastic. Personal preference but you can interchange if you'd like.

For the lights, I use Plexus to add a bit of clarity to the taillamps and headlamps. Great product.

For towels, microfiber is your friend. I have a couple of waffle weave towels for drying the car, and microfiber towels for the detail work. You can pick up large packs at Costco for relatively cheap. The softer, the better.

You should check out the Autopia Car Care forums, as well as for your purchasing needs. They offer all kinds of kits that take the guesswork out of what to buy. - Autopia Car Care Products - Car Detailing Supplies, Car Wax, Car Polishers, Auto Detailing

Hope this helps!

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. it is greatly appreciated it! I saw someone had posted questions about bugs on the grill. Any suggestions for that?

shelbydog 05-16-2013 08:30 PM

Aerospace 303 is legit.

carolinagirl2heart 05-16-2013 08:37 PM

I love all the details and pictures! I have created a spreadsheet with all the products everyone has suggested and I'll find the right combination for my baby girl!!

10Anvil 05-16-2013 08:56 PM

When I bought my 10A the rubicon decals that were put on left some residue around the letters. What is the best way to get that off? Claybar?

Up Hill Bill 05-16-2013 09:37 PM

I've washed my Wrangler three times since I got it in August, 2011. Am I being obsessive-compulsive?

ahsumtoy 05-16-2013 09:50 PM

Just Kidding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderRUBICON (Post 3762216)
lol, your joking right? lol

Dawn is way too strong for car washing.You knew that right? lol

Yeah, I was kidding. I use Meguires for the wash and the wax. I use a high-pressure hose for the under carriage when it gets caked with mud.

Jeeper182 05-17-2013 03:39 PM

Check out autogeek on the web. They have tons of products and often have trial sizes that you can order to see what you like.

MCDavis 05-17-2013 03:50 PM

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet (surprisingly): what's best for soft top windows?

Heysus 05-17-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCDavis (Post 3766192)
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet (surprisingly): what's best for soft top windows?

Back in the day I always heard to use lemon pledge. Don't know if that was a joke or not as I never had a chance to investigate further.

carolinagirl2heart 05-18-2013 10:07 AM

Quick question--I know I have had ALOT lately! Best product for cleaning windows instead of glass plus. AND what should I use to remove water so I don't have spots? My dad always used a chamois but just curious? Out shopping for car products now..

HRPinDC 05-18-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carolinagirl2heart (Post 3768208)
Quick question--I know I have had ALOT lately! Best product for cleaning windows instead of glass plus. AND what should I use to remove water so I don't have spots? My dad always used a chamois but just curious? Out shopping for car products now..

Seriously, check out the videos at Adam's Polishes, their stuff is great. The microfiber drying towel is the bomb! Beats every chamois, both natural and synthetic that I've ever used. Their pH balanced soap helps to prevent water spots and then a hit of detail spray when still wet helps too. Good luck!

michiganadam 05-18-2013 10:53 AM

I clay bar it once a year, wash it when it needs it, which might be once a month or 10 times a week, and wax it when i feel like it...like every 2 months or so.

Wax is important because it hides minor scratches and reduces the possibility of rust. Also keeps dirt from sticking as easily.

Clay bar is important because it restores the factory depth of the paint which is lost due to microscopic dirt particles becoming embedded in the paint. And it also makes it easier to wax it.

Dont EVER clean vinyl windows with glass cleaner. EVER. The chemicals in it can clean the plasticizers out of the vinyl, which will cause the windows to yellow and crack. I use the same car wash soap i use on the whole jeep to clean the windows. If i'm in the mood i'll take them off and wash the inside of them the same way and then install them to let them dry. Occasionally i use Mequiars M17 clear plastic cleaner. This product will make them look amazing, and remove very very minor scratches. There's a mequiars clear plastic polish that's sold next to the stuff, that supposedly removes scratches. Haven't tried it yet. I've accepted that the windows will look like ****

By the way, I haul soap products in a tanker for a living. I obtained 10 gallons of 70% sodium laureth sulfate from work about a month ago. This is the soap that is in car wash soap, with no additives, and highly concentrated. That's what i wash my jeep with.... i water it down into a gallon jug, about a cup full per gallon jug, to make my "car wash soap", and then use it like any other car wash soap. It's not a pretty color and it just smells like soap, but it works. Have seen no reason not to use it.

I have a chamois but i cant figure out how to use it. :(

Honestly its a jeep, screw water spots. i'm not that anal.


Oh yeah, i use Blue Magic convertible top cleaner and protectant once a month or so....

Supperfast 05-18-2013 11:16 AM

2x on adams. It's good stuff !!! I know it's strange but I used orange fantastic on the black plastic on the outside and under carriage on a Polaris rzr and it cleans the mud stains off the axels and fender well really good .. Just spray it on and let it sit for a few min.. I haven't used it on my jkur yet but I'm sure it will work..


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