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1jeeplvr 05-15-2013 06:18 PM

Strength of steel vs alum wheel,help!
 
Ive got this vib that is terrible that starts at about 63 goes away about 74.I have dynamic & static balanced my wheels.I can see a couple wheels wobble on the balancer.
Heres what one took for weight,yikes
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...psee2f0150.jpg


I wheel my Jeep pretty hard so Im wondering if a aluminum wheel would be stronger.I dont want to have to keep replacing wheels.Thanks

UnlimitedLJ04 05-15-2013 09:07 PM

aluminum will be significantly lighter, and therefore easier to balance. strength isn't really an issue.

Rude Dog 05-15-2013 10:25 PM

You say wheels, guessing you mean tires & wheels. Wheels are typically pretty uniform, more so than tires. What makes you think the tires aren't the problem? The weights you show are pretty high. What size tires & wheels. None of my tires took that much lead. Are you sure the balancer is accurate?

Angus Brown 05-16-2013 08:17 AM

The standard practice for a tire tech when they encounter a balance that is calling for that much weight to balance is to break the bead and rotate the tire on the wheel 180 degrees, re-seat the bead, and throw it back on the balancer. Have them do that, see if it calls for less weight. Not sure on what size tires you are running, but you may have problems balancing them if they are 33" or larger, not to mention if they are missing chunks of tread from wheeling.

Maro35089 05-16-2013 08:21 AM

From what I hear as long as the alum wheels are forged and are made of good quality material they are just as strong as steel and way lighter

1jeeplvr 05-16-2013 09:13 PM

My tires are 33x12.5x15. Im sure the balancer is accurate since I use it almost every day & havent had any issues.Maybe Ill try to road force bal them or swap each wheel/tire with the spare & drive it to see what tire/wheel it is.

Morris4x4Center 05-17-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 1jeeplvr (Post 3759195)
Ive got this vib that is terrible that starts at about 63 goes away about 74.I have dynamic & static balanced my wheels.I can see a couple wheels wobble on the balancer.
Heres what one took for weight,yikes
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...psee2f0150.jpg


I wheel my Jeep pretty hard so Im wondering if a aluminum wheel would be stronger.I dont want to have to keep replacing wheels.Thanks

If there is the slightest dent in a steel wheel, the road force measuring will go crazy on a balancer.

1jeeplvr 05-17-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Morris4x4Center (Post 3765272)
If there is the slightest dent in a steel wheel, the road force measuring will go crazy on a balancer.

Well I guess R/F bal is my next step.Im thinking if it is a bent rim or a tire that got damaged I can swap it with the spare.Thanks for the info though.Now if it throws the balancer into a fit Ill know why.

1jeeplvr 05-17-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morris4x4Center (Post 3765272)
If there is the slightest dent in a steel wheel, the road force measuring will go crazy on a balancer.

Do you guys sell more steel or Alum wheels for those who are hard core off roaders?

DBoat 05-18-2013 06:22 AM

was the run out checked on the wheel?

1jeeplvr 05-18-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DBoat (Post 3767944)
was the run out checked on the wheel?

No.Ive got to recheck the balance & road force them on Monday at work

flflash 05-19-2013 02:17 PM

If you can visibly see a tire/wheel woobling on the balancer and your positive it's mounted correctly your next step is to dismount the woobling ones and measure your rim run out if it's out of spec your wasting time trying to balance the tire/wheel assembly if the weheels not out of spec you have a seperated/shifted tire.

1jeeplvr 05-20-2013 05:51 PM

So I did a road force balance on 2 of my tires/rims.One tire showed 32lbs of road force,totally acceptable.The other one that I suspected to be the problem was at 56lbs,no good. So the machine shows where the tire needs to be spun un the rim.I did that & it got worse,now 60lbs.I think Ill use that one for the spare.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ps90c1cac9.jpg

1jeeplvr 06-09-2013 08:16 AM

Well I got my answer.I put the Jeep on jack stands & put it in 4wd.Had the wife get in it and get it to 70mph.My two front wheels were vibrating like crazy.I took them to work & dismounted & spun the rims alone & I can see the wobble.So Im swapping the spare & getting a new steel wheel.When I need tires Ill get tires & wheels.Thanks everyone.


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